Good People, Cool Things
Good People, Cool Things

Episode 81 · 1 year ago

81: Starting a Blog, Video Magic, and Getting Out of a Rut with Chelsea Austin

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Chelsea Montgomery-Duban Waechter, otherwise known as Chelsea Austin, is a writer, speaker, and self-worth advocate with just the most cheerful personality I think I’ve ever seen. But perhaps that’s no surprise — Chelsea has been sharing a message of love and tolerance ever since she was in high school. 

Growing up with two gay fathers — who are both biologically related to her — Chelsea has been a huge advocate for the LGBTQ+ community. She talks about her experiences on her blog, The Girl with Five Names, and speaks with other inspirational folks on her podcast, Worthiness Warriors. She’s also JUST sent in the final draft of her upcoming book, Inexplicably Me, which is due out in May 2022.

That’s a long time to wait for a book to drop, but luckily Chelsea can participate in great conversations like this one to help alleviate some of that nervous waiting energy. We’re talking all about her book, what it was like growing up with two gay dads in a time when that wasn’t as common, and talk about a bucket list item revolving around cars and music.

Good people cool things as a podcast feature and conversations with entrepreneurs, writers, musicians and other creatives. Get inspired by their stories to do your own cool thing. And here's your host, Joey held. Welcome to good people, cool things. Today's guest is Chelsea Austin. She runs the blog the girl with five names. She's got a podcast called worthiness whereas, and she has a brand new book coming out. I said brand now. It comes out in May, two thousand and twenty two, but you can always get your preorder on inexplicably me and just a delightful human being to be around. She grew up with two fathers who are biologically related to her. A big supporter of the Lgbtq community and really about just identifying and discovering yourself worth and not letting other people get you down and knowing that you are fantastic and have lots of good stuff to offer the world. So we're going to talk about how to discover that, how you can unlock that, how you can get out of any ruts that you've been in. We know obviously the pandemic has impacted US quite a bit. I've been in some ruts, for sure. I know my couch would agree. There is quite the groove going on from sitting there. I mean, you know a lot the past year and a half, but we've got lots of inspirational messages and ideas to get you out of that right here. If you like to get in touch with the show, you can reach out via joey at good people, cool thingscom or on facebook, twitter or Instagram at GPCT podcast. Also always appreciate a five star review, and don't over to apple podcasts, pod chaser, really anything that. Let's see you leave a review say hey, I enjoyed this, this was a good time. It wasn't a bad time, it's a good time. You can probably write something more creative than that, but the sentiment is there to share the show, help more people hear it, because if you're getting value out of it, other people will as well. To always appreciate any kind of shoutouts you can do. They're also appreciate if you had an over to the merch store and you see something that you like, wear it, because listening to a podcast while you're wearing merchandise from the podcast scientifically proven to be forty three percent more enjoyable. The episode so rock that Merch. Listen Up and know that I'm not a scientist. So those claims aren't actually true, but looks good, so you might as well do it now. Let's hop into this conversation with Chelsea. For people who don't know who Chelsea Austin is, can you give us your elevator pitch, but also tell us the type of elevator that we're riding on? HMM, that's a fun one. Well, I would say today I'm we're barbecuing with the families. I feel like I'm in a some kind of smoking barbecue elevator here. You know, it's very tasty here, but yeah, and and Nice and and sweaty to we're just before we started recording here, talking about how it's quite warm out where we both are. So I'm feel like it's a little hot and funny, I'm ready to get out of the elevator. So I'll make the pitch quick. I am Chelsea. I have two gay DADS. I was born in one thousand nine hundred and ninety three, so I'm on the older side of children of gay parents and I've kind of used my story about being raised by two gay men, that I'm both biologically related to and all of the amazing and sometimes scary and overwhelming but ultimately incredible things that have happened in my life, to build a platform of spreading love and acceptance and tolerance and advocating for my own and others self worth, because I feel like we can all use a little more Selfworth at times, since it is not a fixed point. And I have a podcast, a blog, my book is coming out in May of twenty two, and I just spend my time creating lots of fun things that make me and other people feel good. I hope, and I always say my goal is that when I kind of encapsulated interaction with someone, I hope they feel more loved at the end of that interaction than they did at the beginning, and that is what I hope my brand can create. So that is that is me in a nutshell. Fantastic, and we're going to get into all of that as well. And I'm just like looking through all the questions. I had them like you're checking these all off. So I'm loving it. We're getting through it. And a very topical elevator as well, because you're barbecuing over there. I had barbecue for breakfast. Oh Yeah, to an Austin Hotspot Valentine's text Mex Barbecue. It's a big old breakfast Taco with brisket and ah again and it's Oh, it's a behemoth. Still feeling little sleeping from it. And that was several arts ag that's awesome, I would say. Yeah, I can think about I only have a shoutout for my brother in law, who's amazing, who's out there barbecuing currently. You know, we got all the all the different kinds of German meets, so you know it's a good time. It's good time had by...

...all. Are you going to be served during this podcast? That would be amazing, but I've told them all to leave me alone, so they're outside eating it. I will be served after this podcast that I'm I said, it's good that I won't fall asleep. I won't get the meat sweats and start a falling asleep while we're recording. That would be a first. I think we'd also I don't know if we've really gotten into Asmar too much on this podcast in the past, so be breaking new ground, but I appreciate you. You asking the leaf. You a look at least for a little bit, and we're of similar age. I'm a little older than you, but you mentioned that you're kind of on the older spectrum of having to gay DADS, and I would agree with that. I didn't know anyone like that growing up and I think it's even more rare because you said your biologically related to both of them. So how is that experience shaped you? It's been a beautiful, beautiful thing. I'm very grateful. I have two incredible parents. I and I would say that whether or not they listen to this, but they'll definitely be listening because they tune into everything I do. But you know, it was kind of I always say like I used to feel so special and now everybody has gay Dads, but I really think I always thought like we grew I grew up kind of two doors down from normal, and my dad calls it the gay gift. He said the fact that he was gay growing up allowed him to say, I'm already different, so why not celebrate and live in that difference and not give a damn what anyone else thinks, and so I feel like they kind of gave me that gift too, of saying I just get to be exactly who I want to be and use my story as a way to connect people. I grew up in Los Angeles, California, so I kind of lived in this bubble where I didn't face a lot of discrimination at home, but, you know, there I felt I faced other kinds of adversity. I was, you know, bullied in elementary school, never because I had gay dads, but because I was just a little bit goofy. And, you know, I feel like my parents. I knew I was in an accident, I knew I was unconditionally and deeply loved and they allowed me to feel that love so deeply that I can now take that on and hopefully give that to other people and spread that gift to others. And and it's been you know, when I was in high school, I started advocating on behalf of lgbtq rights because not because my parents asked you to, but because I wanted our families to have those same rights as every other family. And that kind of began my little journey down this path of self worth and accepting, of being upset, accepting of ourselves and of others. And and that's how it all began, as all because of my dad. So I'm eternally grateful there two of the most incredible men, barring my now husband that I that I know. You got to throw the husband in there too. Can't leave him out. He's pretty spectacular himself. So it'll also be listening and, yeah, critique, exactly. Yeah, one of the ways, one of the many ways that you promote this positivity and accepting yourself, which I think, especially in this past year and a half where we've gotten to spend more time with ourselves being quarantined, we can see all the various imperfections or, you know, grievances we might have either with ourselves or were living with people, even if we love him this so my drop is crazy sometimes. All that good stuff. So one of the ways that you are helping share your message or through your blog, or I should say is through your blog grammar, the girl with five names, and when we introduced you it was Chelsea Austin. There's only two names, so where do the five names come from? Absolutely, I love to throw people off a little bit with that. I just think it's a big mouthful to say I'm Chelsea Austin Montgomery, Ju ban vest when I walk into a room. So I go it. Tell the Austin for Bram purposes. But my Chelsea is my first name, given to me by my parents, and Austin is my middle name. I also have both of my parents last names, so that's Montgomery is my dad's last name, and do ban is my daddy's last name. I Call Them Dad and Daddy. And then I never thought I would want to take a spouse's name. I was positive like Nope, I love my name's, I want them the way they are. They will have to take Montgomery to ban. And then I met this pretty fantastic human, my husband, Dominic, and I I identify so deeply with my names and and labels that as labels that have been given to me. I was like, well, I want this one too. I want to be connected...

...in this way, and so I took his last name, which is best, which is very confusing, for he's German and people never know which named too than they talk to me. But that is how I got my fifth name, and he is such an incredible human he is also taking all three of my last names, so we are both Montgomery to band vector. And Yeah, that is how I ended up with five names and why my blog is named after all of those names as someone who is half German, I appreciate the German last name, although I think back, there's maybe a little more difficult to pronounce than Oh oh, I said. My our children are just screwed because you have I was like, oh, these four things. They have Montgomery, do ban and then they have vector, and I said, I don't know, I just did go by Montgomery. If you want to, or choose whatever one you want. Will give you them all and then you take your bitch. That's it. That's a good way to do it, I think so. When you're in Germany right now, so clearly you have customs to fill out. So is that? Do you have to request like an extra sheet to get all the letters? And you know what, but I was in school I used to think that I should get extra time to write all my things, but the top of the teachers didn't quite buy that. But no, I just have to write really, really tiny. I do fund back to bring my own pain always, because I have these really fine little ballpoint pens, I think, use to write on the customs for otherwise my name is just too Dang Long. But I do leave Austin off on most of those those big forms and just and just supplement it with an a. So that gets a little easier, I guess. But yeah, I'm very proud of those things. I've always been very proud of my name's. I wear them like a badge. I and I I had when I was talking to my my personal brand facilitator that I started working with a while ago, and she said, you know, that's a mouthful for people to pronounce that, Chelsea Austen, whatever you be infecter, and I said, well, I'm not willing to choose one or the other of my last names. And so, you know, my parents actually gave me the Middle Name Austin, thinking if I ever wanted to drop my last names and just be Chelsea Austin, I could. It's it's like they knew I wanted a career entertainment growing up in La I guess that's not so shocking. But you know, I think I'm very I love all my names. I take a lot of pride in them, and so it was hard for me to drop those three when creating my brand. But Chelsea Austin, I think, encapsulated who I am while also acknowledging my last names. Otherwise, I would say yeah, as far as the blog goes. I always like this is someone who started, I don't know, four or five blogs over the years and various states of disarray currently. But what's what's something that surprises you about running a blog? That's a great question. You know, I I started the blog as I was working in real estate at the time and I needed a creative outlet. I wasn't super happy in my work. I didn't feel creatively fulfilled. I'm a by trained, by full training. I have a degree in theater and dance, and so I was missing that creative outlet and so I started the blog to give myself this kind of creative space. And something that always, I mean always, surprises me is what catches people's attention, because all write a piece or film a piece for the blog and think like F it was it was good. It's definitely like a high foality enough that I could put out there, but I don't know that it's really going to affect anyone. And then out of the Blue I'll get this out pouring of Oh my gosh, me too. I had no idea you felt this way, and that is always so shocking to me and also such a comfort that everything we're going through someone else is, on some level experiencing the same base experience, for lack of a better word, at the same time, and that's a huge comfort to me that I've found in blogging and that's why I continue to do it, because I love that connection with people. Are Going back to your theater degree and studying. What was your favorite performance that you put on? Oh good, miss me. I I played Val in a course line in college and that was one of them. That was so much fun because she sayings a song which is entitled Dance Ten, looks three but is more lovingly known as Titsan ASS, and that was Super Fun because I have neither of those, and so it was a great to kind of stuff out of my comfort zone. And to this I dyed my hair platinum blond, and that was always the most fun for me. What is supposed to play? Characters that were so felt so vastly different for myself but also,...

...at their very core, had something I could relate to, and I just I love her. She's I sho is balance so brazen and I have always dreamed of being that brazen and so that, I think, is probably my favorite part I've ever played. Oh yeah, there are some good ones, but I think that's my favorite. We men have to ask you to dig up an old photo of that, because I always love a good platinum blond. I've never rave enough to pull it off myself. Admire it. It was something. It took a think I have very dark brown hair and it took about eight hours and it was actually quite painful the amount of bleach that was in there. But I will, I can dig up a photo for you, that's for sure. It was a it was a good time. I definitely enjoyed it because they're other. Also, aren't a ton of like curly haired blonds walking around, so I felt like I came back to school after dying and people were like Whoa, who is that? I was like, okay, I guess blonds might have a little more fun. I don't know, got a good, good taste of it. Yeah, something else that you said that I think is a good sort of distinction, I guess, of how blogging and creative, really any kind of creative field, is going is you said that sometimes you're writing post, sometimes you're shooting posts, and I mean just looking at some of the popular platforms right now, instagrams basically trying to be tick tock. Tick Tock is suddenly trying to be youtube with these longer form videos. Youtube is Google now and that it's like the number two Seeo, which is just all coming back to video, and that video content is being promoted by all these platforms. It's what people like watching. I still love a good read, but sometimes it's like, you know what, I do want to watch a video. I think it's easier to convey that information that way. So what's your video set up like? HMM, that's a great question, you know. I yeah, it's so true. I can't keep up with all. I feel like a grandma in the social media world, which is why I get a lot of help because I so somewhat useless. But I have a pretty basic setup actually, which I always say. It's like, if you want to do this, you can really make it happen however you want to. I don't have a very fancy camera. I film all of my material on my iphone. I have a nice circle light because you know, clad everybody needs a good circle light, and it's the setup changes depending on where I am. Usually in my house, I may we've been in our houses for a while now. I haven't actually gone anywhere do to record. So I'm usually sitting in my bedroom in a blue chair, my comfy, cozy spot, and I have my circle light and my phone and that's really my setup. I always think I'm not I'm not all that fancy, but it works for me and it's something that I love about starting something new. When I started my blog, I guess now, I can't remember, two years ago. I think it was two years ago, I had no cut. I had no conception that I would end up recording or filming myself because that felt so uncomfortable. And then when I decided, I was like I'm not going to buy a bunch of fancy equipment not making any money if there's right now. So I started with just like I guess I can do it on my phone and yeah, I get you know, I keep up with with the latest I phone, but other than that that's my little set up. I like it. Yeah, I think there's something. I mean this is dating myself, but way back, and I say Youtube's early days, like two thousand and eleven, two thousand and twelve is when I had more of a youtube channel and I remember I'd get comments from people because I had the same sort of thing. I had. I'm gonna blank on the name of it now. I think it was just called a flip cam. We're it was like, oh, yeah, one of those, one of those is baby tiny cameras literally flipped out a USB and you could just plug it right into your yeah, top and earlier, and it was I mean it was like good enough quality. It certainly wasn't maybe it was hd, but it, you know, didn't look like some of these like k things coming out now. But I'd get comments from people that were like hey, like, I like that, this is kind of like, you know diy, sort of like a little grittier, which I think, like I enjoy that as well. If something's like way over produced, it can still I mean it looks phenomenal, but there's kind of like a feeling of ingenuity with it, almost like yeah, and I like the I like the authenticness and take as a word that's overused all the time, but it is too. But I love that too, because it's like I just want to feel like I'm sitting with my listeners on my podcast or my viewers on my blog or on my instagram, like I just sit together and have a cup of coffee. It shouldn't. I don't want there to feel like there's this big distance between you and I and I'm some kind...

...of person with all this information bestowing it upon you. I find that super obnoxious. You know, I always say I it's not. I don't talk about Selfworth because I have so much selfworth. I talked about it because I am constantly in search of it, and anything that I talked about on my blog, on my podcast, it's all all things I'm working on currently. You know, experts always say, Oh, you shouldn't talk about a before you've learned to solve it. Like, AH, what the hell, let's let's figure it out together. We're all in this kind of crazy world and why not take a chance and learn from each other? And so I think I love that, like when you say authenticity, authenticity is so important to me and I think having a kind of casual like I just throw it together. It's nothing special. It's more about how we can communicate with each other, and so I love that. I know I totally had a flipcam. I used to love that thing. That's amazing. I love it. I know we might stopped working. It was a very sad day. Yeah, yeah, I give. I give a solid like seven or eight years. Yeah, oh my Gosh, when when math book stopped having us be and things in the side, I was like heartbroken, like what, come on, I have to get an adapter. I'm not this too much work. I know all the Dongles so frustrating owning any apple product. I'm sure in five years it'll just all be facial recognition. There won't even be any ports for anything. You'll just think I'd like to plug in a USB now. Well, and it won't work. Lots of child side. When it doesn't recognize my face, I'll cry, but other than that it will be totally fine. Oh, I've had that happened quite a bit. If I'm trying to do something while out in public with a mask, it's like see your face and I'm like well, I guess I'm not doing this now. That yes, oh my gosh, I feel you. That is the new mask struggle is the new there's a recognition on the IPHONE. That'll be the next update. Yeah, oh, totally. Now you mentioned your podcast. It's called worthiness warriors. Tell us a little bit about it and what makes someone a worthy wire well, I would like to think that we are all worthy to s warriors. We all have that worthiness inside of us. Weird sometimes just need someone to remind us that it's there. And I started the podcast because of this experience I had in high school where I had I went to an all girls high school, not that that really matters, but there's I feel like you can envision it better when you know I'm picturing airy girls. Yeah, but Ama, Oh God, yeah, it's like we had it. We had, you know, Oh yeah, the classic uniforms and and I remember sitting on a table and at lunch one day and someone asked how much it cost for my parents to have me and I was like, well, I don't know. Do you ask your parents how much it cost for them to have you? And I said, I said I hadn't really ever thought about it, and then I said, well, you know, but I think I think it was probably extensive. And it was. And a girl across the table looked at me, and I mean I can see her face like it was yesterday, looking me in the eye and said, well, were you worth it? And and I got that it was a it was meant as a joke and I kind of giggleds with everybody else because everybody else was laughing and I didn't really know what to do with that question and we all just kind of moved on. And, to be honest, I didn't think about that moment until years later I was working on cultivating myself worth. I was leaving my job in real estate and starting my blog and writing my book, and this question of self worth, I just noticed myself worth seemed to be in question constantly and I didn't know why. I didn't have the confidence to just go and do what I wanted to do without getting everybody's approval and having everyone say yes, Chelsea, that's the right thing to do. And and I didn't know where that was coming from. And that moment flashed in my mind and I went, Whoa, that's that was a turning point for me. It was a moment where I really started to question and am I worth it? Am I worth the personal, political, social, what economical fallout that my parents had to face having a daughter and raising her in the s thousands? Today I'm let's be honest, I'm twenty eight, but my parents are right outside. They followed me to Germany, so they're never far away, but was I really worth that? And that was always a question for me, and so I created the podcast because I wanted to know how other people find their self worth and I but you know it, this is a big question for me. Let me pull everyone I know and people I don't know and see how they cultivate and create their self worth. And it has been this amazing journey. I just culminated my forty one how...

...many season one with my forty one episode, and it was, it was such an amazing ride and it was so beautiful to hear forty one different versions of how people divine self worth and no one defined it the same way. And that's kind of this amazing thing about self worth and being on a journey to learn how to cultivate it in myself consistently. I wouldn't say constantly, I think constantly is not necessarily possible, but having this consistent connection with the idea that I am of value and that I am worthy of everything I experienced in my life, and that's what I think makes us all worthiness warriors, those that want to, those that want to go out and cultivate their self worth and those that don't even know they're searching for it or have already found it an access it consistently, and I think we all have the ability to be a worthiness warriors, that were. Are you a worthiness warrior? Excuse me, and and that we just need to tap into it ourselves. Yeah, I think that's just very, very spot on all across the board. And I'm a musician and I love going to shows and everything like that, and I think concerts, which thankfully I've gotten to go to a couple in the past couple of weeks, right before our city shuts down again, which is going to be great, but a nice little mix of it. But I think that's like such a good sort of microcosm of not really caring what other people think. Like if you go to a concert and you see someone just like dancing, like singing their hearts out, they don't care who's around them. And when you get lost in that yourself, I think that's like a good tangential combination of knowing yourself. You're like, I'm into this, this is what I enjoy. I want to express that and that ties back to self worth to if you're worried about what someone else is thinking of you, you're never going to get a hundred percent of your full self. You've just got to be who you are and that that goes along the journey, for sure. Yes, that's such a beautiful comparison. That's because, and I always like it, but popped into my mind of that moment is my husband. I think the reason I married him and the reason the universe put us together is because he he does not care what anyone thinks. He will sing in public. He can't think, by the way, sorry, baby, but he can't think, and he will sink in public. He will dance, I'll stand on railings and throw it. He just doesn't care and it is I feel like he's my major case study is because it's like it's such an amazing thing and like at a concert, I would be the person that's like, okay, I'm going to stand in my little space and, you know, move back and forth, and he'll be the person that's like throwing his arms and dancing around, and I so long to continue to develop myself worth to the point where I'm like yeah, just let it all hang out of the cods there. That's such a great comparison. I love that. Yeah, it's just it's so fun to see and and there's yeah, there's definitely people who are like kind of more in their little space, but I'm like, I still see it like I still see the head bobs, I still see the toe tap and like. They're they're getting at it. They just might not be as as rambunctious and as at all. Sometimes clumsy, man do I do have to worry occasionally. Have to keep an eye out of make sure I'm not bumping into anyone. Pretty good at avoiding that, are you have that in common to I am very clumsy, so I can only dance at its choreograph. I say, well then, do you have a favorite dance? HMM, oh goodness, I by. I've trained in all different kinds of all different styles. Ballet is what I keep up with the most. Right now, I would say, though, my favorite dance is a good dance in your car, because that is that's what I really love. That's the time I think I myself the most. I really I am the most free when I'm dancing. Is what I'm sitting in my car jamming to a song. I don't care who's pulling up next to me in traffic. I hope they get joy from it and just let it, let it all hang out in the car. But I guess, if I mean, I don't know of a favorite dance, but I do a lot of ballet. I Love Ballet, I would say, because I'm a musical theater nerd any kind of like musical theater dance, little bit of Fawsey, tapping. I love to tap. I yeah, I love it all. That's really hard to pin down. Very, very impressive all around, and you mentioned this is something that I need to have happened in my life at least one time, is to be jamming out to a song and either pull...

...up next to or have someone pull up next to me listening to the same song and also jamming out, which I feel like it's maybe. I mean it's certainly harder now. It is because beyond like the eight radio stations that we had growing up, like Noah's, all the serious exam there's obviously everyone, or a lot of people, have bluetooth in their cars, so you know they could be listening there, may be listening to a podcast. I'd love to see someone jamming out to a podcast. I think they'll be delightful, but you know, I'll hasn't happened I'll just come to Austin and drive around constantly playing one song and it's see if we read it to each other. Yes, let's yeah, we'll pick like a playlist of five songs, so it's somewhat organic and then hopefully we're synked up together. It'll be great. That's awesome. You also mentioned that you've got a book coming out May. Two Thousand and twenty two inexplicably me, and first of all, that's a very long time away. So how do you contain the excitement for what is this? Nine months until? So we have no idea how hard it is. You know, I'm so excited. I was submitting to publishers last year thinking I'm going to self publishers. No Way, I'm actually going to get a publisher, and then the incredible HCI books took me on and they'll they'll be publishing my book in May and they announced, they gave me in May of this year say it's going to come out may up next year, and so I've just basically been sitting on hot coals constantly. But I'm really excited. I think it's good. It gives me something to build towards, to lead up to continue to build my audience so that you know, I can make the book as successful as possible and do a lot of other things that I love in the meantime. So it's good. I think I cannot wait to hold my book in my hands and I think right now I spend most of my time just dreaming of my very first book signing. So it gives me a lot of time to dream about the future for right now. Yeah, but I know I am anxiously awaiting. They seventeen of two thousand and twenty two. Do you just have pages and pages of a signature? Practicing writing, writing your name? Well, and you know I have to practice my name so freaking long. I have to decide. Is it going to be initials? It's it going to be all the name and school beca some of the names I've I've gone back and forth many times, but that's actually a good idea. I think I really should start practicing. You know, I've done my gosh, my family's going I think I'm crazy, but I totally am going to practice my signature. I have it yet, but I will soon. I remember sitting next to someone and I think it was in middle school. One of my classmates and she would always like her notebooks were just full of her, full of her signing her yes, like practicing her signature, and I was like, I wonder if that's coming handy. I know I was think my signature looks like such a mess when I signed checks or when I sign a like a receipt at a at a restaurant or something, my signature looks like such a mess. I don't even know that any of my family will looking to be like, is that your name? Do we know that's your name? So I guess I should get much more specific to people actually know it's my name. Maybe I should have practiced when I was in middle school, in high school that I said I'd be prepared now, because now I'm just like out to see here without a single the skills early on. That's awesome. Yeah, so our is the book officially done or can you are you still making some like anal tweeks a little, you know, one more proof, Fred, or are you just like it's it's, it's out there. So this scary the scary thing happened about two weeks ago. I sent off my final draft, which was just a crazy experience. But I felt like it was like an out of body experience. You know, I did the very final edits that my editor asked for. It still has to go through a copy editor and a proofreader, but there won't be any more for me to do. So that is a little bit scary. I was sitting. We are driving from Nuremberg, where my husband's from, to Amsterdam, to seven hour car ride, and we were in two different cars and I was sitting. It was just me and my dad's in one car and I read through all of the final pages I made to them for two and a half hours. They're troopers and they listen to the whole thing and I submitted it from the car and it's out there. It's I no longer have hands on it. So now I just have to sit back and and try and let go, which I'm not great at doing either. So we'll see how that goes. Did you find in the editing process that you have a certain quirk when with your writing, because I learned I'm also writing a book and the the dialog. Apparently I start a lot of sentences with well, even though I don't say that in real life, but...

...when it came back from an editor, he likes specifically called on. He's like you started like it's like twenty one sentences with well, like throughout those, my Gosh, like Oh, I'm like, thank you for pointing that, because I never would have seen that. Yeah, I it was really funny. I totally you're so right. I do have absolutely have a quirk, and it's sounds like a similar thing is starting sentences. I would always I break the what is that? The fourth wall? I break the fourth wall a lot in my book and talk directly to the reader, and so I address the reader a lot, but I would address them with like weird phrases, you like, so you see, which I've never said in my life. It's you know, or I would randomly get just much more formal than I am normally, and so my editors like, maybe you just take those out. And so yeah, I definitely have the it's starting sentences are hard, because otherwise you start every sentence with I especially be writing a book about yourself and you're like this is a new dadd some variety, and so I guess, as I was trying to find some variety, I had the wrong kind of variety. So it's a yeah, it's definitely book writings a journey. It's that. It's exciting. How I can I have so many questions for you, but I will save them for now about your writing journey. That's awesome. Yes, I am always fascinated to talk with other people. And one other book element that I think is very critical, especially because I have no design skills of my own, but the cover. People, when they're seeing it in a book store, they're seeing it on mine. Maybe they're just scrolling through their phones and they've got the like one and a half inch thumbnail to look at. So what was your process like for finding the right cover? So this is fascinating. I this is obviously the first time I've worked with a publisher and it was kind of a crazy process because they decided they sent me a couple of cover options. They'd asked me to send them some options of covers that I like. So I used a couple of different authors that have done memoirs in the last few years that I know I've read, or covers that I'm attracted to, and sent those over and it was just really crazy because when they first came back I was like this is not at all what I had in mind and and I envisioned it so many times and it just I mean, I looked at Dommy and I was like no, no, I don't like any of them, and he's like okay, okay, let's let's look at them a little closer before you have a fullblown panic attack. And so I printed out each of the different options and I started to just look at them more carefully and thankfully dommy has a really good design I as well, and so we kind of looked at things together. I talked to my family a little bit, I talked to macky media, Michelle McKee, who runs the PR team that I work with, and said, like, you know, you, you guys know about this stuff. What catches your eyes with a book? And so I really wanted it to be colorful and playful and fun and feel like when you look at this, you're looking at some version of me and like I would have a handful and I'm loud and outgoing and and when I walk into a room, you know. And so I wanted that book, My book, to have the same feel and it very much ended up that way. They did an amazing job and it's it all came it was only two versions later from one of the covers that I said, okay, I think I like this one the best, and I sent it back and forth with my editor a couple of times and literally in two versions they got it beautifully and perfectly and I will all I'll say is it's bright yellow, which I just love. And so it was a fascinating process. I think one of the hardest things about it was that that felt like this is your first thing you see of the book and it's going to decide, you know, for people whether or not they're going to pick it up off the shelf or not. And it felt so important and I had to really tell myself the people that are supposed to read this book are going to find this book whatever the cover is. And yes, from a marketing standpoint, you wanted to look in a certain way, you wanted to attract people a certain way, but I really need to go with my gut and go with something that makes me happy and trust that the right people are going to get access to this book. And so I think between myself, between the designer that's at the publishing house, we really really encapsulated so much of the emotion inside of the book right on the outside. And Yeah, there's a big old rainbow on there too, so it's a it's eventually it became exactly what I wanted it to be over span of like one week, which is pretty crazy. It happened so quickly. I had to make decisions so quickly. It was so hard for me, but it was ultimately it really does feel like my heart is on that cover and...

I yeah, overwhelming and very exciting. That's a very quick turnaround of just one week. Well done. It's Oh my gosh, it was only because I had to. They they were meeting with a bunch of book buyers on a Monday and it was they sent me like the first version of the Tuesday before and they're like sorry, were rushing, but we need it by Monday. I was like, okay, I guess you really do need decision for me. So I don't know that I would have been that fast otherwise, and I think that's a good, good call out as well of keeping it true to yourself while also considering the marketing elements of things. That actually just reminded me of a tweet one of my co workers shared and I definitely pulled it up. I was very impressed with how quickly but it's from impressed. It's from Lee Stephen and we'll link to it in the show notes. But he said there's only ten types of books and it's a short twitter thread and it's just like a mosaic of all the different sort of tropes, I guess, for book covers that you'll see out there. And the certainly isn't every book, but it is kind of a good showcase. Like there's the profile silhouette, where it's like a silhouette if someone with the title inside of it. There's nests, there's girls with classes, animal silhouettes, shoes and like things like that, and they all just have, I think it's what is it like four and twenty five covers for each of them, just side by side with each other, which I think shows how, first of all, how many books there are out there, but also how similar some covers are, and so to have one that maybe borrows elements from that but is uniquely your own, I think does help it stand out. I hope so. I it's so funny because I love the Guy, love whom he's like girls with glasses. It's like that's I envisioned that. I envisioned that is my book cover, which doesn't have anything to do with the content, but it looks so cute. You know it is, I hope that one of my one of my biggest inspirations, is clendon oil and she is this it. You haven't read her book untamed, go read it right now. It's an amazing, amazing book. But I love, I love the outside so perfect that outside, the cover, so perfectly reflected everything that she was writing about inside. And I've said, how do you make that happen? And I'm so grateful for my publisher because they made that happen because I had no idea even where to start. It would be if it were me, I'd be like, I have the silhouette and the nest and the girls with glasses and how do we get everything in there? And then to two dad's holding hands and then a picture of my husband. So I think it's a great thing that I wasn't designing at myself, because we would have ended up with my middle school collage on the front of it. But it's yeah, it's such a you. The marketing is so important, that personal element is so important and it's and I think you know, this is my first book. It's the first time I feel like I've put something me and my whole life story for people to read. It's like it's a little scary, but it's I feel very grateful for the help that I got, because alone it never would look as good as it's going to on make seventeen of two thousand and twenty two. So yeah, well, I think that might segue nicely all that. We kind of have been talking on this, but I always like to ask a question you wish you were asked more frequently. We've talked to ton about what you do for a living. But who are you beyond what you do for a living? That's such a great question. I think I always wished people had asked me this question when I was in real estate, because I felt like what I did was so not who I was, and what I do now is a lot more aligned with who I am as a person. But I always wish that people cared more about what, who, who people are. And so, yeah, I always say I am a I am a little bit goofy, a little bit silly. I am a wife, I am a mother to an adorable have a poop puppy named I am the daughter of two incredible men I am a big lover. I love everyone I come into contact with. Even if that sounds crazy, it is true, because I believe you don't need to know a person to love them. And I'm just someone that wants to I want to travel the world. I want to know as get to know as many incredible humans as possible. I know someone that loves I'm a very I don't know if I'm a very introverted extrovert or a very extroverted introvert, but I am still I am. I'm a cancer. So I I like to go out into the world to be very social and then I like to come home to my home base and sit alone with a cup of tea and be quiet. And so I feel like I'm I always say I'm a creation of impossibilities. I'm a creation of all these things no one thought were possible and yet here I am. And so that's who I am, besides what I do, but I feel like what I do now is very much aligned with who I am as a person. But I think we're all a little bit more than what we wake up and get ready for every day. Creation of impossibilities is great. That's like a good band name too. Your next your next project is starting a band.

There's through Nath you know, if I if I ever start a band. That is a great I will take that absolutely. That's the that's true. I haven't I haven't thought about using it that way. That's a great idea. Excellent. I only ask for a person at royalty. Is So very, very modest. So it's get at least it was recorded first year. So yes, getting the scoop here, man, it'll be. I love it. I'm ready. All right, she'll see. You're almost off the hook. But we always have to end with a top three, and for you, since you are a creation of impossibilities, a bastion of energy, very inspirational all across the board. This past year, past year and a half, it's been it's been rough. People have been I mean we've talked about it. They've been hanging out at home, same in, same thing day and day out, maybe feeling like they're in a little bit of a Rut. So what are your top three ways to get out of that Rut? Oh Yes, I love it and thank you so much for the kind words. Thank you, but I always think the my top three ways to get out of a Rut is to first change up your routine. I think especially during covid or, I really any time in life, we are so I am such a creature of habit and I feel like many of us are so comfortable in our routines and even if we love our routines, sometimes they're not serving us. And so it's not that you need to go out be like I'm going to create an entirely new schedule for myself, but if you can find one thing in the day that's a little bit different than what you always do, if you always go to the same place for lunch, because the world or if I you for me, it was like this kind of magical I don't know if it's just because I've been stuck inside for so long, but when I finally decided I think I'm going to go work in a coffee shop today, and I went and worked in a coffee shop, I was I had so much more like inspiration come through and and the possibility sell endless from this like one hour in a coffee shop. And so I think changing a routine, even in a tiny, tiny way, can be so incredibly helpful to just kind of start to see new possibilities and one of my favorite things is number two. To do one thing you've never done before. And not like I can't think of a new thing to do every single day, but like I started a few months ago taking flying lessons and I'm pursuing my private pilot's license right now because my sweet husband decided that would be a good idea and I'm still only slightly terrified. But but it was something that I've never done before. And again, just it allowed me to see the world, and I mean quite literally in a different way. I was up above the clouds. But just trying one thing, I mean even playing a board game you've never played before, meeting friends and and going to a park that you've never been to before. I just think seeing something new, doing something new and and and kind of forcing your brain to have to think of something new to do is inherently what getting out of a Rut is. So I think finding things we've never done before, or maybe have all they done a few times or did a decade ago. I think that is always a great way to kind of get out of that regular Rut, regular routine. And then always, whether or not I'm trying to get a Rut out of a Rut or if I'm comfortable in the Rut. My favorite and third way out is finding ways to incorporate fun and joy into my every day. And I think we, I feel like we don't appreciate fun enough. I feel like if we think we're having fun, we're somehow not doing life right, like we're not working hard enough or we're not you know knows the grindstone it. And I think the amazing thing about incorporating fun and joy into your every day is that those uplifting feelings, that time you've spent just going I'm going to go out and have some fun today, and and even looking at the world from that perspective inherently draws you out of whatever it is you're used to doing. And so I you know, fun can be, can mean anything, and whatever you define fun as is a way to get is a way to incorporate fun and joy. You get to define those for yourself. Defining everything in your life for yourself is absolutely within your power, and so I think finding those ways to incorporate joy and fun, doing something you've never done before and changing up your routine or your environment in a small way are my top three favorite ways to get out of a rat boom. Those ruts were officially unstuck from them. I hope so. I felt pressure, but we'll...

...see. You. Have you done your your something new today? So today, what have we done today? Oh my goodness. Yes, actually, I walked through a field today, through three different small in German you call them a DOORF which I guess is a door which is a village, but through three different villages day, and I had no idea where I was going, which is very unlike me. I'm a little bit of a control freak, and so today I let someone else take charge and just wandered through the field for like two and a half hours, and that was new for me today. It sounds lovely, it was beautiful and it was actually very nice to rulinquish control. So I might start doing that more often. Fantastical for the people that want to. I was trying to make a great segue with control, but I don't know. I who want to control where they go to find you. Where can I? Where can I find you? They can find me. Everything is on my website, Chelsea austincom has two a's in the middle there, and on there you can find my instagram, which is at Chelsea Austin, MDW. It has my blog, my podcast brining it's warriors. It's on there, which you can find wherever you get your podcast, and information about my book, as well as and my courses that I've been working on. My flip the script course is also on my website. Everything can be found at the hub that is Chelsea austincom and yeah, it's a it's a good time, so that's where you can find me. Always love a good hub, Chelsea. Thank you so much for coming on the pockets. This was fantask you so much. I've so enjoyed getting to know you today and I look forward to the next time we can talk likewise, and of course we're going to end with a Corny joke, as we always do it. What was a more important invention than the first telephone? What the second one? Good after today people, good people, cool things is produced in Austin, Texas. If you were a fan of this episode, go ahead and hit that follow button. That helps more people here the show. You can send me a message, Joey at good people, cool thingscom. Thank you to all of the guests who have been on good people, cool things and check out all the old episodes. Be a good people, cool thingscom as always, thank you for listening and have a Wonderful Day.

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