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Episode 81 · 2 months ago

Starting a Blog, Video Magic, and Getting Out of a Rut with Chelsea Austin

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Chelsea Montgomery-Duban Waechter, otherwise known as Chelsea Austin, is a writer, speaker, and self-worth advocate with just the most cheerful personality I think I’ve ever seen. But perhaps that’s no surprise — Chelsea has been sharing a message of love and tolerance ever since she was in high school. 

Growing up with two gay fathers — who are both biologically related to her — Chelsea has been a huge advocate for the LGBTQ+ community. She talks about her experiences on her blog, The Girl with Five Names, and speaks with other inspirational folks on her podcast, Worthiness Warriors. She’s also JUST sent in the final draft of her upcoming book, Inexplicably Me, which is due out in May 2022.

That’s a long time to wait for a book to drop, but luckily Chelsea can participate in great conversations like this one to help alleviate some of that nervous waiting energy. We’re talking all about her book, what it was like growing up with two gay dads in a time when that wasn’t as common, and talk about a bucket list item revolving around cars and music.

Good people cool things as he codasfuture, and conversations with entrepreneurs, writers, musicians andother creatives get inspired by their stories. To do your own cool thing andhere's your host Joey held welcome to good people cool things. Today's guestis Chelsea Austin. She runs the block. The girl, with five names, she's got apodcast called worthiness wares and she has a brand new book coming out. I say:Brad now comes out in May two thousand and twenty two, but you can always getyour preorder on inexplicably me and just a delightful human being to bearound. She grew up with two fathers who are biologically related to her abig supporter of the LGBTQ plus community and really about justidentifying and discovering yourself worth and not letting other people getyou down and knowing that you are fantastic and have lots of good stuffto offer the world. So we're going to talk about how to discover that how youcan unlock that, how you can get out of any ruts that you've been in, we know.Obviously, the pandemic has impacted US quite a bit. I've been in some ruts forsure I know my couch would agree. There is quite the groove going on fromsitting there. I and you know a lot of the past year and a half, but we've gotlots of inspirational messages and ideas to get you out of that right.Here you like to get in touch with the show you can reach out via joy, at goodpeople, cool things or on facebook, twitter or instagram at GP. CT podcastalso always appreciate a five star review and on over to apple podcasts,Pon Chaser, really anything that lets you leave a review, say: Hey I enjoyed this. This was agood time. It wasn't a bad time. It was a good time. You can probably writesomething more creative than that, but the sentiment is there to share theshow, help more people hear it, because, if you're getting value out of it,other people will as well always appreciate any kind of shout outs. Youcan do there also appreciate, if you had on over to the merge store- and yousee something that you like- wear it, because listening to a podcast whileyou're wearing merchanise from the podcast scientifically proven to beforty, three percent more enjoyable, the episode so rock that Merch listenup and know that I'm not a scientist of those claims aren't actually true but looks good, so you might as well do itnow. Let's hop into this conversation with Celse for people who don't knowwho Chelsea Austin is, can you give us your elevator pitch, but also tell usthe type of elevator that we're riding on HMM? That's a fun one. Well, I would say today I'm we're barbecuingwith the family, so I feel like I'm in a some kind of smoking, barbecueelevator here that it's very tasty in her but yeah and nice and and sweaty twoweird just before we started recording or talking about how it's quite warmout where we both are. So I feel like it's a little hot and funny I'm readyto get out of the elevator, so I'll make the pitch quick. I am Chelsea, I have two gay dads. Iwas born in one thousand nine hundred and ninety three, so I'm on the olderside of children of gay parents and I've kind of used, my story about beingraised by two gay men that I am both biologically related to and all of theamazing and sometimes scary and overwhelming, but ultimately incrediblethings that have happened in my life to build a platform of spreading love andacceptance and tolerance and advocating for my own and others self worth,because I feel like we can all use a little more self worth at times, sinceit is not a fixed point and I have a podcast a blog. My book is coming outin May of twenty two and I just spend my time. NCLUDING lots of fun thingsthat make me and other people feel good. I hope- and I always say my goal- is that when I kind of encapsulated interaction withsomeone, I hope they feel more loved at the end of that interaction than theydid at the beginning, and that is what I hope my brand can create. So that isthat is me in a nutshell, fantastic and we're going to get into all of that aswell, and I'm just like looking through all the questions, I had him likeyou're checking these all off, so I'm loving it we're getting through an end,a very topical elevator as well, because you're barbecuing over there, Ihad barbecue for breakfast, Okay Yeah to an an Austin hot spot, Valentina'sTEX, Mex Barbecue, it's a big old breakfast taka with brisket and Amica,and it's Oh, it's a Bahima sat still feeling aslip it, and that was several hours ago. That's awesome, I would say yeah I haveto GE out. I only have a shout out for my brother in Law: Who's amazing WHO'sout there barbecuing. Currently you know we got all the all thedifferent kinds of German meatss. So...

...you know it's a good time. It's a goodtime had by all. Are you going to be served during this podcast? That wouldbe amazing, but I've told them all to leave me alone so they're outsideeating, and I will be served after this podcast that I'm I said it's good, thatI won't fall asleep. I won't get the meat sweats and start a falling asleepwhile we're recording. That would be a first. I think we'dalso. I don't know if we've really gotten to into as Mr too much on thispast in the past, so be breaking new ground. But Iappreciate you, you asking them to leave you a love, at least for a little bit and we're of similarage, I'm a little older than you, but you mentioned that you're kind of onthe older spectrum of having two gay Dads, and I would agree with that. Ididn't know anyone like that growing up and I think it's even more rare becauseyou said you're biologically related to both of them. So how has thatexperience shaped you? It's been a beautiful, beautiful thing,I'm very grateful. I have two incredible parents, I, and I would saythat whether or not they listen to this, that they'll definitely be listeningbecause they tune into everything I do, but you know it was kind of Ialways say like I used to feel so special and now everybody has gay DADS,but I really think I always felt like we grew. I grew up kind of two doorsdown from normal and my dad calls it the gay gift. He said the fact that hewas gay growing up allowed him to say I'm already different. So why notcelebrate and live in that difference and not give a damn what anyone elsethinks, and so I feel like they kind of gave me that gift to of saying I justget to be exactly who I want to be and use my story as a way to connect people.I grew up in Los Angeles, California, soI kind of lived in this bubble where I didn't face a lot of discrimination athome, but you know there. I felt I facedother kinds of adversity. I was you know, bullied in elementary school.Never because I had gay dads but because I was just a little bit goofy yeah and you know I feel, like my parents, I knew I wasn't an accident.I knew I was unconditionally and deeply loved and they allowed me to feel that love so deeplythat I can now take that on and hopefully give that to other people andspread that gift to others. And it's been, you knowwhen I was in high school. I started advocating on behalf of lgbtq rightsbecause not because my parents asked me to but because I wanted our families tohave the same rights as every other family and that kind of Gan my little journey down this path of self worthand accepting it being upset accepting of ourselves and of others and andthat's how it all began is all because of my dad. So I'm eternally gratefulthey're two of the most incredible men, barring my now husband Otha. I that I know you got to throw the husband in theretoo. Yeah can't leave him out, he's pretty spectacular himself, so he'llalso be listening and Yeah Christie. Exactly taking your answer. Yeah on one of the ways, one of themany ways that you promote this positivity and acceptingyourself- which I think, especially in this past year and a half where we'vegotten to spend more time with ourselves being quarantined, we can seeall the various impaction or you know, grievances we might have either withourselves or we're living with people. Even if we love him. This to my driveis crazy, sometimes all that good stuff. So one of the ways that you are helpingshare your message or through your blog or I should say, is through your blonkgrammar. I, the girl, with five names and when we introduced you, it wasChelsea Austin, there's only two names. So where do the five names come? Absolutely yeah? I love to throw peopleoff a little bit with that. I just think it's a big mouthful to sayI'm Chelsea Austin like coming to ban vester when I walk into a room, so I goat Chelsea Awson for bran purposes, but my Chelsea is my first name given to meby my parents, and Austin is my middle name. I also have both of my parentslast name, so that's Montgomery is my dad's last day and du Ban is my daddy'slast name. I Call Them Dad and Daddy, and then I never thought I would wantto take a spouse's name. I was positive, like Nope, I love my names. I want themthe way they are, they will have to take Montgomery, Go van, and then I metthis pretty fantastic human, my husband Dominic and I identify so deeply with my names andand labels that as labels that have been given to me, I was like welll. Iwant this one too. I want to be...

...connected in this way, and so I tookhis last name, which is Bester, which is very confusing for he's German andpeople never know which name to choose when they talk to me. But that is how Igot my fifth name and he is such an incredible human. He is also taking allthree of my last names, so we are both Montgomery to be investorand yeah. That is how I ended up with five names and why my blog is named.After all of those names, as someone who is half German, Iappreciate the the German last name, although I think factors may be alittle more difficult to pronounce that. Oh, I said my our children are justscrewed because you have is like. Oh these poor things. They have Montgomerydu Ban and then they have feche her, and I said I don't know I just go byMontgomery. If you want to or choose whatever one you want, will giveyou the ball, and then you take your pick. That's a that's a good way to do it. Ithink so, when you're in Germany right now, so clearly you have customs tofill out. So is that do you have to request like an extra sheet to you know?Lest you know what, when I was in school, I used to think that I shouldget extra time to write all my name, but the COP, the teachers didn't quitebuy that, but no, I just have to write, reallyreally tiny. I do UN back to bring my own pen always because I have thesereally fine. Little Ball point pens. I use to write on the customs forotherwise my name is just to Dang Long, but I do leave Austin off on most ofthose those big forms and just and just supplement it with an a so like it's alittle easier. I guess but yeah I'm very proud of those isI've always been very proud of my name as I wear them. Like a badge I and I had when I was talking to my my personal brand facilitator that Istarted working with a while ago, and she said you know, that's a mouthfulfor people to pronounce that Chelsea often lie go to vanves or- and I saidwell, I'm not willing to choose one or the other of my last names, and so youknow my parents actually gave me the middle name, Austin thinking. If I everwanted to drop my last names and just be Chelsea Austin, I could it's likethey knew. I wanted a career entertainment growing up in La. I guessthat's not so shocking, but you know, I think, I'm very. I love allmy names. I take a lot of pride in them, and so it was hard for me to drop thosethree when creating my brand but Chelsey Austin. I think in Capsulae whoI am will also acknowledging my last names, otherwise, I would say yeah asfar as the blond goes. I always like this is someone who started, I don'tknow four or five blogs over the years in various states of disarray.Currently I like, what's what's something that surprises you aboutrunning a blog? That's a great question. You know I. I started the blog as I wasworking in real estate at the time and I needed a creative outlet. I wasn'tsuper happy in my work. I didn't feel creatively fulfilled I'm a by train byfull training. I have a degree in theater and dance, and so I was missingthat creative outlet, and so I started the blog to give myself this kind ofcreative space and something that always I mean alwayssurprises me- is what catches people's attention, because I'll write a pieceor film a piece for the blog and things like it was. It was good. It'sdefinitely like a high Faloro enough that I can put out there, but I don'tknow that it's really going to affect anyone and then out of the Blue I'llget this outpouring of. Oh, my gosh me too. I had no idea. You felt this way,and that is always so shocking to me and also such a comfort that everythingwe're going through. Someone else is on some level experiencing the same base. Experience for lack of a better word atthe same time, and that's a huge comfort to me that I've found inblogging and that's why I continue to do it, because I love that connectionwith people are going back to your theater degree and studying what was yourfavorite performance that you put on. Oh goodness, me I, I played vow in a chorus line incollege, and that was one of them that was so much like,because she sings a song which is entitled dance. Ten looksthree but is more lovingly known as tits and ASS, and that was Super Funbecause I I have neither of those, and so it was a great kind of step out ofmy comforts on and do this. I died my hair platinum blonde, and that was always the most fun for me,but is supposed to play characters that Wereso felt so vastly different frommyself, but also at their very core had...

...something I could relate to, and I justI love her she's. She was Ballas, so brazen and I havealways dreamed of being that brazen and so that, I think, is probably thefavorite part. I've ever played. Oh Yeah. There are some good ones, but Ithink that's my favorite. We men have to ask you to dig up an old photo ofthat, because I always love a good platinum blonde. I've never grave enough to pull it offmyself. I was admire it. It was something it took a think. I I havevery dark brown hair and it took about eight hours and it was. It was actuallyquite painful. The amount of bleach that was in there, but I will I can digup a photo for you. That's for sure it was a. It was a good time. I definitelyenjoyed it because there are. There also aren't a ton of like curly hairedbonds back it around. So I felt like I came back to school after dying andpeople were like Whoa. Who is that I was like okay, I guess blonds mighthave a little more fun. I don't know, got a good good taste of it yeah,something else that you said. That I think, is a good sort of distinction. I guess ofhow blogging and creative really any kind of creative field isgoing. Is You said that sometimes your writing post, sometimes you're shootingposts, and I mean just looking at some of the popular platforms right now.INSTAGRAM is basically trying to be tick. Tong tick, tock is suddenlytrying to be youtube with these longer form. Videos Youtube is Google now andthat it's like the number two so which is just a all coming back to video andthat video content is being promoted by all these platforms. It's what peoplelike watching. I still love a good read, but sometimes it's like you know what Ido want to watch a video. I think it's easier to convey that information. Thatway. So what's your video set up? Like Hmm, that's a great question, you knowI yeah it's so true. I can't keep up with all I feel like a grandma in thesocial media world, which is why I get a lot of help because I so somewhatuseless, but I have a pretty basic set upactually, which I always say it's like. If you want to do this, you can reallymake it happen. However, you want you, I don't have a very fancy camera. Ifilm all of my material on my iphone. I have a nice circle light because youknow CLA, everybody needs a good circle light and it's the setup changesdepending on where I am usually in my house. I may we've been in our housesfor a while now I haven't actually gone anywhere new to record, so I'm usuallysitting in my bedroom in a blue chair, my comfy cosy spot, and I have mycircle light and my phone and that really my set up. I always think I'mnot I'm not all that fancy, but it works for me and it's something that Ilove about starting something new. When I started my blog, I guess now. Ican't remember two years ago. I think it was two years ago I had no. I have no conception that Iwould end up work, recording or filming myself, because that felt souncomfortable and then, when I decided to was like a I'm not going to buy abunch of fant equipment, not making any money if this right now so I startedwith just like I guess I can do it on my phone and Yeah I get you know I keepup with with the latest I phone but other than that pack, my little set up. I, like it yeah,I think, there's something I mean this is dating myself, but way back, and Isay youtubes early days like twenty eleven, two thousand and twelve is whenI had more of a youtube channel, and I remember I'd, get comments from people,because I had the same sort of thing I had I'm going to blank on the name ofit now. I think it was just called a flip cam rows like Oh yeah, one ofthose one of those baby, tiny cameras, literally flipped out a USB, and youcould just plug it right into your yeah is top and Oh yeah, and it was, I meanit was like good enough quality. It certainly wasn't I maybe it was hd, butit you know, didn't look like some of these, like four k things coming outnow, but I'd get comments from people that were like hey like I like thatthis is kind of like you know, Di y sort of like a little grittier, which I think like I enjoy that as well.If something's like way over produced it can still, I mean it, looksphenomenal, but there's kind of like a feeling of ingenuity with it almostlike yeah and I like the I, like the authenticness, an take as a word.That's over used all the time, but it is that I do too, but I love that too,because it's like, I just want to feel. Like I'm sitting with my listeners onmy podcast or my viewers on my blog or on my instagram, like I just a sittogether and have a cup of coffee it shouldn't. I don't want there to feellike there's this big distance between...

...you and I and I'm some kind of personwith all this information bestowing it upon you. I find that super noxious.You know, I always say it's not. I don't talk about self worth, because Ihave so much self worth. I talk about it because I am constantly in search ofit and anything that I talked about. Oh my blog on my podcast. It's all all thethings that I'm working on. Currently you know experts always say. Oh, youshouldn't talk about a problem before you've learned to solve it like e, whatthe hell, let's, let's figure it out together, where're all in this kind ofcrazy world and why not take a chance and learn from each other, and so Ithink I love that, like when you say authentic. The authenticity is soimportant to me and I think, having a kind of casual like I just throw ittogether. It's nothing special, it's more about how we can communicate witheach other, and so I love that, and now I totally had a flip camp. I used tolove that thing. That's amazing! I love it. I know we might stopped working. Itwas a very sad day. Yeah Yeah give give a solid like seven or eight years yeah.Oh my gosh, when, when macbook stopped having USB and things in the side, Iwas like heart broken like what come on. I have to get an adaptor, I'm not thistoo much work. I know all the Dongles Yeah, so frustrating owning any appleproduct, I'm sure in five years, it'll just all be facial recognition. Therewon't even be any plats for anything. You'll just think I d like to plug in aUSB now well and it won't work eaten. It doesn't recognize my face cry,but other than that it will be totally fine. So I've had that happen quite abit. If I'm trying to do something well out in public with a mask, it's likesee your face and I'm like. Well, I guess I'm not doing this now then. Yes,oh my gosh, I feel you that is the new mask struggle. Is the no facialrecognition on the IPHONE that'll? BE THE NEXT UPDATE? Yes, Ohtotally now you mentioned your podcast, it'scalled Worthiness Warriors, tell us a little bit about it and what makessomeone a worthy ware well, I would like to think that we areall worthy this warriors. We all have that worthiness inside of us. We sometimesjust need someone to remind us that it's there and I started the podcast.Because of this experience I had in high school, where I had. I went to anall girls high school, not that that really matters but there's I feel likeyou, can envision it better. When you know I'm picturing dairy girls yeah,but in a we had, oh God, yeah it's a we had it. We had. You Know Oh yeah, theclassic uniforms and- and I remember sitting on a table andat lunch one day and someone asked how much it cost for my parents to have meand I was like well I don't know, do you ask your parents how much a costfor them to have you and I thou said I hadn't really ever thoughtabout it and then I said well, you know, but I think I think it was probablyextensive and it was and a girl across the table looked at me- and I I mean Ican see her face like it was yesterday. Looked me in the eye and said wellwhere you worth it and and I got that it was a. It was meantas a joke and I kind of giggled with everybodyelse, because everybody else was laughing and I didn't really know whatto do with that question and we all just kind of moved on and to be honest,I didn't think about that moment. Until years later, I was working on cultivating myself worth.I was leaving my job in real estate and starting my blog and writing my bookand this question Ofel worth I just noticed myself. Work seemed to be inquestion constantly and I didn't know why I didn't have the confidence tojust go and do what I wanted to do without getting everybody's approvaland having everyone to yes, Chelsee. That's the right thing to do, and- and I didn't know where that was comingfrom and that moment flashed in my mind and I went whoa back. That was aturning point for me. It was a moment where I really started to question andam I worth it and I worth the personal political, social. Whateconomical fall out that my parents had to face having a daughter in raisingher in the s two sand today. I'm, let's be honest, I'm twenty eight, but myparents are right outside they followed me to Germany, so they're never faraway, but was I really worth that? And thatwas always a question for me, and so I created thepodcast, because I wanted to know how other people find their self work, andI said you know what this is a big question for me. Let me pull everyone,I know and people I don't know and see how they cultivate and create theirself work, and it has been this amazing...

...journey. I just culminated my forty first comedyTed Season on as my forty first episode, and it was. It was such an amazing rideand it was so beautiful to hear forty one different versions of how peopledivine self worth and no one defines it the same way, and that's kind of thisamazing thing about self worth and being on a journey to learn how tocultivate it in myself. Consistently, I wouldn't say constantly, I think,constantly is not necessarily possible, but having this consistent connectionwith the idea that I am of value and that I am worthy of everything Iexperienced in my life and that's what I think makes us allworthiness warriors those that want to those that want to go out and cultivatetheir self worth and those that don't even know they're searching for it orhave already found it and access it consistently. And I think we all havethe ability to be a worthy es warriors that were all a worthiness warrior,excuse me and and that we just need to tap into it.For ourself yeah. I think that's just very, very spot on all across theboard and I'm a musician, and I love going to shows- and everything likethat and I think concerts which thankfully I've gotten to go to acouple in the past couple of weeks right before our city shuts down again,I just going to be great but a national mix of it. But I think that's like sucha good sort of microcosm of not really caring. What other peoplethink like if you go to a concert- and you see someone just like dancing likesinging their hearts out, they don't care who's around them and when you getlost in that yourself, I think that's like a good tangential combination ofknowing yourself you're like I'm into this. This is what I enjoy. I want toexpress that and that ties back to self worth too, if you're worried about whatsomeone else is thinking of you, you're never going to get a hundred percent ofyour full self. You've just got to be who you are and that that goes alongthe journey for sure. Yes, that's such a beautiful comparison that that'sbecause- and I always like it but popped into my mind at that moment- ismy husband. I think the reason I married him and the reason the universeput us together is because he he does not care what any one thinks he willsing in public. He can't sink by the way, sorry babies, but he can't singand he will sink in public. He will dance he'll stand on railings and throwit he just doesn't care, and it is, I feel, like he's. My major case study isbecause it's like it's such an amazing thing and like at a concert, I would bethe person. That's like okay, I'm going to stand in my little space and youknow, move back and forth and he'll be the person. That's like throwing hisarms and dancing around, and I so long to continue to develop myself work tothe point where I'm like yeah, just let it all hang out of the patter. That'ssuch a great comparison. I love that yeah, it's just it's so fun to see andand there's yeah there's definitely people who are like kind of more intheir little space, but I'm like, I still see it like. I still see the headbobs. I still see the tow tap and like they're they're, getting at it, theyjust might not be as rambunctious and as a a tall, sometimes clumsy man do. Ido have to worry. I occasionally have to keep an eye out to make sure I'm notbumping at anyone. Pretty good at appointing that we havea ingraven too. I am very clumsy, so I can only dance if it's quite graft nicething. Well, then, do you have a favoritedance hm? Oh goodness, I, by I've trained in all differentkinds of all different styles. Ballet is what I keep up with the most right now I would say, though, myfavorite dance is a good dance in your car, because that is that's what Ireally love. That's the time. I think I let myself the most. I really I am themost free when I'm dancing is what I'm sitting in my car jamming to a song. Idon't care who's pulling up next to me in traffic. I hope they get joy from it and justlet it let it all hang out in the car, but I guess, if I mean I don't know, ofa favorite Dan, but I do a lot of ballet. I love that way. I would say,because I'm a musical theater nerd, any kind of like musical theater dance alittle bit of fossy tapping. I love to tap. I yeah. I loveit all! That's really hard to pin down very, very impressive all around andyou you mentioned. This is something that I I need to have happened in mylife at least one time is to be jamming out e to a song and either pull up nextto or have someone pull up next to me,...

...listening to the same song and alsojamming out which I feel like it's, maybe I mean it's certainly harder now.It is because, beyond like the eight radio stations had growing up like meall the serious exam, there was obviously everyone or a lot of peoplehave blue tooth in their cars. So you know they could be listening. They maybe listening to a podcast I'd love to see someone jamming out to a podcast. Ithink that'll be delightful, but you know I'll just hasn't happen toI'll. Just come to Austin and drive around constantly playing one song andsee if we read at each other. Yes, let's yeah we'll pick like a playlistof five songs, so it's somewhat organic and then hopefully we're singed up together.IT'LL BE GREAT! That's awesome! You also mention that you've got a bookcoming out, may two thousand and twenty two. Yes, inexplicably me and first ofall, that's a very long time away. So how do you contain the excitement for what is this nine months until so wehave no idea how hard it is. You know I'm so excited I wassubmitting to publishers last year. Thinking I'm going to sell publishers,no way, I'm actually going to get a publisher and then the incredible HCIbooks took me on and they they'll be publishing my book in May and theyannounced they gave me in May of this year. Say It's going to come out me upnext year until I've just basically been sitting on hot coals constantly, but I'm really excited. I think it'sgood. It gives me something to build towards to lead up to continue to build my audience so thatyou know I can make the book as successful as possible and do a lot ofother things that I love in the meantime. So it's good. I think Icannot wait to hold my book in my hands and I think right now I spend most ofmy kind just dreaming of my very first book signing, so it gives me a lot oftime to dream about the future for right now, yeah, but I know I amanxiously awaiting the Seventeenth of thousand and twenty two. Do you just have pages and pages ofsignature? Practicing of writing. Writing your name. Well, and you know Ihave to practice my name so freaking long. I have to decide. Is it going tobe additional? Is it going to be all the names? I will be some of the namesI've I've gone back and forth many times, but that's actually a good idea.I think I really should start practicing. You know I've done my gosh,my families, who I think, I'm crazy, but I totally am going to practice mysignature. I have it yet, but I will soon I remember sitting next to someoneand I think it was in middle school, one of my classmates and she wouldalways like her notebooks were just fold of her full of her signing her. Noyes, like practicing her signature- and I was like I wonder- that's cominghandy. I know I was in my signature- lookslike such a mess when I sign checks or when I sign a like a resided, a at a restaurant or something like mysignature looks like such a mess. I don't even know that any of my familyare looking to be like. Is that your name? Do we know? That's your name, soI guess I should get much more specific, so people actually know it's my name.Maybe I should have practiced when I was in middle school and high schoolthat I said I'd be prepared now, because now I'm just like out to seehere without til the skills early on. That's awesome, yeah! So is the book officially done or canyou are you still making some like final tweaks a little? You know onemore proof. Reed, or are you just like it's it's out there, so there's scary.The scary thing happened about two weeks ago I sent off my final draft, which was just a crazy experience. I felt like itwas like an out of body experience. You know I did the very final editsthat my editor asked, for it still has to go through a copy, editor and aproof reader, but there won't be any more for me to do so. That is a little bit scary. I wassitting we are driving from Nurnberg, where my husband's from to Amsterdam toseven hour car ride and we were in two different cars and I was sitting it wasjust me and my dad's and one car and I read through all of the final teaches Imade to them for two and a half hours. They are troopers and they listen tothe whole thing and I submitted it from the car and it's out there. It's I no longerhave hands on it. So now I just have to sit back and and try and let go whichI'm not great at doing either. So we'll see how that goes, did you find in theediting process that you have a certain quirk when, with your writing, becauseI learned I'm also writing a book and the the dialogue. Apparently I start a lotof sentences with well and even though...

I don't say that in real life, but whenit came back from an editor, he, like specifically called out he's like you,start like it was like twenty one sentences with the well like throughoutthat my gods, like. Oh I'm like thank you for pointing that, because I neverwould have seen that yeah. It was really funny. I totally are so right. Ido have a e absolutely have a quirk, and it's so like a similar thing isstarting sentences. I would always I break the. What is that? The fourthwall? I break the fourth wall, a lot in my book and talked directly to thereader, and so I addressed the reader a lot, but I would address them with likeweird phrases you like, so you see which I've never said in my life. It's like you know, or I would randomly get just much moreformal than I am normally, and so my editors, like maybeyou just take those out so yeah. I definitely have the it's startingsentences are hard because otherwise you start every sentence with the eye,especially if you're writing a book about yourself and you're like this isa new dad, some variety, and so I guess, as I was trying to find some variety, I had the wrong kind of variety. So it's a yeah. I definitely book. Writingis a journey. It's that it's exciting. How I can I've so many questions foryou, but I will save them for now about your writing journey. That's awesome! Yes, I am always fascinated to talkwith other people and one other book element that I think is very critical,especially because I have no design skills of my own, but the cover owlwhen they're, seeing it in a book store, they're, seeing it online, maybethey're just scrolling through their phones and they've, got the like oneand a half inch thumbnail to look at. So what was your process like forfinding the right cover? So this is fascinating. I this is obviously thefirst time I've worked with a publisher and it was kind of a crazy processbecause they decided they sent me a couple of cover options. They'd askedme to send them some options of covers that I liked so. I used a coupleof different authors that have done memoirs in the last year that I knowI've read or covers that I'm attracted to and sent those over, and it was justreally crazy because when they first came back, I was like this is not atall what I had in mind and- and I envisioned it so many times,and it just I mean I looked at domme and I was like no, no, I don't like anyof them and he's like okay, okay, let's, let's look at them a little closerbefore you have a full blown panic attack, and so I I printed out each of the differentoptions and I started to just look at them more carefully and thankfully Domihas a really good design eye as well, and so we kind of looked at thingstogether. I talked to my family a little bit. Italked to mecky media, Michelle Mace, who runs the PR team that I work withand said. Like you know you, you guys know about this stuff, what catchesyour eyes with the book, and so I I really wanted it to be colorful andplayful and fun and feel like when you look at this you're. Looking at someversion of me and like I would damn a handful and I'm aloud and outgoing andand when I walk into a room, you know, and so I wanted that book my book tohave the same feel and I very much ended up that way. They did an amazingjob and it all came. It was only two versions later from one of the covers that I said.Okay, I think I like this one, the best and I sent it back and forth with myeditor a couple of times and bitely in two versions. They got it beautifullyand perfectly- and I will all I'll say- is it's bright, yellow, which I just love, and so it was afascinating process. I think one of the hardest things about it wasthat that felt like this is your the firstthing you see of the book and it's going to decide. You know for peoplewhether or not they're going to pick it up off the shelf or not, and it felt soimportant and I had to really tell myself the people that are supposed toread this book are going to find this book. Whatever the cover is, and yesfrom a marketing standpoint, you wanted to look in a certain way. You want itto attract people a certain way, but I really need to go with my gut andgo with something that makes me happy and trust that the right people aregoing to get access to this book, and so I think, between myself, between thedesigner that's at the publishing house. We really really encapsulated so muchof the emotion inside of the book right on the outside and yeah there's a bigold rainbow on there too. So it's a it's. I eventually it became exactlywhat I wanted it to be over stand of like one week, which is pretty crazy. It happened so quickly. I had to makedecisions so quickly. It was so hard for me, but it was ultimately, it really doesfeel like my heart is on that cover and...

I yeah overwhelm me and very exciting.That's a very quick turn around of just one week. Well done: Oh my gosh it. Iwas only because I had to they. They were meeting with a bunch of bookbuyers on a Monday and it was they sent me like the first version of theTuesday before and they're. Like sorry, we're rushing, but we need it by Monday.I like okay. I guess you really do need decision for me, so I don't know that Iwould have been that past otherwise and I think that's a good good call outas well of keeping it true to yourself, while also considering the marketingelements of things that actually just reminded me of a tweet one of mycoworkers shared, and I definitely pulled it up. I was veryimpressed without quite o lass, but it's from in prest, it's from LeeStephen and we'll link to it in the show notes, but he said there's onlyten types of books and it's a short twitter thread, and it's just like a mosaic of all the different sortof tropes. I guess for book covers that you'll see out there, and thiscertainly is an every book, but it is kind of a good showcase like there'sthe profile silhouette where it's like a silhouette of someone with the titleinside of it there's nests, there's girls with glasses, animal silhouettesshoes and, like things like that, and they all just have. I think it's. Whatis this like? Twenty four twenty five covers for each of them just side byside with each other, which I think shows how, first of all how many booksthere are out there, but also how similar some covers are and so to haveone that maybe borrows elements from that, but is uniquely your own, I think,does help it stand out. I hope so it's so funny, because I lovethe Guy Love O hes said girls with glasses. It's like that. I ambitionthat in vision, Dat is my book cover which doesn't have anything to do withthe content, but it looks so cute, you know, and it is. I hope that one ofmy one of my biggest inspirations is Cenani and she is this. If you haven'tread her book, untamed, go read it right now. It's an amazing amazing book,but I love. I love the outside, so perfect that outside the cover soperfectly reflected everything that she was writing about inside and I said howdo you make that happen and I'm so grateful for my publisher because theymade that happen, because I had no idea even where to start it would be. If itwere me, I'd be like I'd, have the silhouette and the ness and the girlswith glasses, and how do we get everything in there and the two twodads holding hands and then a picture of my husband. So I think it's a greatthing that I wasn't designing it myself, because we would have ended up with mymiddle school collage on the front of it, but it's yeah. It's such a othermarketing is so important that personal element is so important and it's- and Ithink you know this- is my first book. It's the first time I feel like I've,put something me. My whole life story, a people toread it's like it's a little scary, but it's I feel very grateful for the helpthat I got because alone. It never would look as good as it's going to onmake seventeen o o thousand and twenty two so yeah. Well, I think that might segway nicelyall that we kind of have been talking on this, but I always like to ask aquestion you wish you were asked more frequently: We've talked a ton aboutwhat you do for a living, but who are you beyond what you do for a living? That's such a great question. I think Ialways wished people had asked me this question when I was in real estate,because I felt like what I did was so not who I was and what I do now is alot more aligned with who I am as a person, but I always wish that peoplecare more about who who people are and so yeah. I always say, I'm A. I am alittle bit goofy a little bit silly. I am a wife, I am a mother too anadorable Cavao puppy named Mo. I am the daughter of two incredible men. I am abig lover. I love everyone. I come into contact with, even if that sounds crazy.It is true because I believe you don't need to know a person to love them andI'm just someone that wants to. I want to travel the world. I want to know Iget to know as many incredible humans as possible. I was one that loves, I'M A very I don'tknow if I'm a very introverted extrovert or a very extrovertedintrovert, but I have, I am still I'm a cancer. So I like to go out into theworld to be very social, and then I like to come home to my home base andsit alone with a cup of tea and be quiet, and so I feel like I'm, I wassay, I'm the creation of impossibilities and a creation of allthese things to know and thought were possible, and yet here I am, and sothat's who I am besides what I do, but I feel like what I do now is very muchaligned with who I am as a person, but I think we're all a little bit morethan what we wake up and get ready for every day. Creation of impossibilities is great.That's like a good band name tooo! Your...

...next project is starting a band.There's your name that you know. If I, if I ever start a band, that is a greatI will take that absolutely that's he that's true! I haven't. I haven'tthought about using it. That way. That's a great idea! Excellent! I onlyask for eight percent royalty, so very, very modest. At El good at least it was recordedfirst here. So yes, getting the scoop here, Aye man it'll, be I love it. I'm readyall right, shels you're, almost off the hook, but we always have to end withthe top three and for you, since you are a creation of impossibilities, abastion of energy, very inspirational across the board. This past year, pastyear and a half it's been, it's been rough. People have been, I mean, we'vetalked about it. They've been hanging out at home, Saman same thing day and day out may be feeling like they're in a littlebit of a Rut. So what are your top three ways to get out of that Rut? Yes, I love it and thank you so much for the kindwords. Thank you, but I always think the my top threeways to get out of a red is to first change up your routine. I think,especially during coved, a really any time in life we are. I am such acreature of habit and I feel, like many of us, are so comfortable in ourroutines and even if we love our routines, sometimes they're not servingus, and so it's not that you need to go up and be like I'm going to create anentirely new schedule for myself. But if you can find one thing in the day,that's a little bit different than what you always do. If you always go to thesame place for lunch case somewhere else or if I for me it was like thiskind of magical. I don't know if it's just because I've been stuck inside forso long, but when I finally decided I think I'm going to go work in a coffeeshop today and I went and worked in a coffee shop. I was I had so much morelike inspiration come through and, and the possibilities fell endless fromthis like one hour in a coffee shop, and so I think, changing a routine evenin a tiny, tiny way can be so incredibly helpful to just kind ofstart to see new possibilities and one of my favorite things is number twoto do. One thing you've never done before and not like. I can't think of anew thing to do every single day, but, like I started a few months ago, takingfine lessons and I'm pursuing my private pilot license right now,because my sweet husband decided that o d be a good idea and I'm still onlyslightly terrified, but but it was something that I've neverdone before and again just it allowed me to see the world, and I mean quiteliterally in a different way. I was up above the clouds, but just trying one thing: I mean evenplaying a board game. You've ever played before meeting friends and andgoing to a park that you've never been to before. I just think seeingsomething new doing something: New and and kind of forcing your brain to have tothink of something new to do is inherently what getting out of a rat is,so, I think, finding things we've never done before, or maybe have only done afew times or did a decade ago. I think that is always a great way to kind ofget out of that regular Rut, regular routine and then always whether or not I'mtrying to get a rat out of a ret or if I'm comfortable in the Rut and myfavorite and third way out, is finding ways to incorporate fun and joy into myevery day, and I think we I feel like we don't appreciate fun enough. I feellike if we think we're having fun we're somehow not doing life right like we'renot working hard enough or we're not. You know nose the Grindstone, and Ithink the amazing thing about incorporatingfun and joy into your every day is like those uplifting feelings that timeyou've spent just going, I'm going to go out and have some fun today and evenlooking at the world. From that perspective, inherently draws you outof whatever it is you're used to doing, and so I you know, fun can be a mean anythingand whatever you define fun, as is a way to get, is a way to incorporate funand joy. You get to define those for yourself. Defining everything in yourlife, for yourself is absolutely within your power, and so I think, findingthose ways to incorporate joy and fun doing something. You've never donebefore, and changing up your routine or your environment in the small way aremy top three favorite ways to get out of a ret boom. Those ruts were officiallyunstuck from them. I I hope so I, ah I...

...plot of pressure, but will see. I youlike. Have you done your your something new today so today? What have we done today? Oh, my goodness. Yes, actually, Iwalked through a field today through three different small in German. Youcall them a dwarf, which I guess is a dwarf, which is a village but throughthree different villages day, and I had no idea where I was going, which isvery unlike me, I'm a little bit of a control freak, and so today I letsomeone else take charge and just wandered through the field for like twoand a half hours, and that was new for me today it sounds lovely, it wasbeautiful and it was actually very nice to relinquish control, so I might startdoing that more often fantastical for the people that want to. I was trying to make a great segue withcontrol, but I don't know I who want to control where they go to find you wecan. What can the fund you they can find me? Everything is on my website,Chelsea Austin, that has two, as in the middle there and on there you can findmy instagram, which is at Chelsea Austin MW. It has my blog. My podcastwording is porers is on there, which you can find wherever you get yourpodcast and information about my book as well as in my courses that I've beenworking on. My Flip descript course is also on my website. Everything can befound at the hub that is Chelsea, austen and yeah. It's a it's a goodtime. So that's where you can find me. I always love a good hub Chelsea. Thankyou so much for coming on the pockets, as was Fanou so much I've so enjoyedgetting to know you today and I look forward to the next time. We can talklikewise and, of course, we're going to end with a Corny joke, as we always do.What was a more important invention than the first telephone right. Thesecond one afford people good people, cool things is produced inAustin Texas. If you were a fan of this episode, go ahead and hit that followbutton that helps more people here, the show you can send me a message: Joey, agood people, cool things com. Thank you to all of the guests who have been ongood people, cool things to check out all the old episodes, the good peoplecool things com, as always. Thank you for listening and have a Wonderful Day.

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