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Good People, Cool Things

Episode 56 · 7 months ago

March Madness, College Shenanigans, and Karaoke with Chris Hayes

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

It’s March Madness, so we’re hopping right into it! After all, there’s no time to waste when it comes to filling out your brackets. Friend of the podcast Chris Hayes joins to chat some hoops, and because we go way back, there are plenty of fun tangents along the way.

We talk some of the best rides and variants of Disney World, a little college football, that Matt and Kim song from the Buick commercials, and then hop into the part you’re all here for: two mildly informed fellas offer their bracket tips, including things to watch out for, such as schools named after toothpaste or what happens if a team has to bow out due to coronavirus concerns. 

Also note that we recorded this right after the Selection Sunday show, so if something has changed by now, we’re not liable for wildly inaccurate information.

Good people cool things as the codcastfuture and conversations with contrepreneurs writers, musicians andother creatives get inspired by their stories to do your own cool thing andhere's your host joy held Chris Hay's friend of the PODCAST. This is what thefourth or fifth time you've been on some iteration of my podcast. But ifpeople were sleeping on those episodes and haven't, listened yet tell us yourelevator pitch and what kind of elevator are we on? Oh Man, what typeof elevator are we on? I think in just knowing me inkind of that. It's a rideand it's loud and who knows what's going on? It's definitely ToweratTERRAC Disney world. So you just you, know, you're going to get a lot ofscreaming a lot of yell and you probably have a good time or alsGOINGTA be terrified all at the same time. So it's that and then, whilewe're on that elevator I'll, just let you know like I once worked out withway in the Rock Johnson I like working in education, and I coach and Ipretendo o what I'm talking about when it comes to bracketology. Even thoughmy Experti is a lot more in college football, but let's do this and there'sa lot of that it's again and then maybe in the middle of it, Nice Ena. So areyou? Are you starting this as the ride is going up initially or are youwaiting till we're at the top? Oh Yeah, the way that I would do it iswayt to the top, or you know I've been on the elevator enough. So I know likethe most ridiculous time to do it, I'm trying to find that one so yeahprobably be at the top and like the doors, open, okay and then they shutback and then I'll. Ask You a question: Is it like kind of is just that momentof silence for a second, it's like, so how the dogs and o be like what andthen we're going in brilliant timing? Is this the Orlandoor Anaheim? Is it world or Land Tower ofTerri Ecause? Apparently, there's there's a little difference between thetwo yeah. That's why you have to go to all these different places on Disneyworld. I went to Disney Paris when I was studying abroad there and thethunder mountain very different than Ha than the one in Disney wor world.That's for sure, a little bit more it we like, I went, it was weird, there'sa river and then it went under the river, and so it was just there was alot more happening to it. So I would say, though, that this terro torristwant ot Disney world, because it's you know just the classic: Okay, okayt OgYeah. I think that's it's the most recent one I went on and then I was atLa in college. We went to a broadcastingconvention and there was a guy who huge tower of Tarafan, apparently had onlybeen to the one in Disney world and the La one has more of an instant drop,whereas I think the Disney world one, maybe teases, you a little more t likeGoe straight a little bit and then drops so. He was saying like it's justgoing to be this little Phoe Dra and then we just totally dropped in th. Thepicture of terror on his face is so phenomenal. I love it so much. I meen.If I love that your confidence by him just I got this, I know I'm tacking, itwas yeah, it was borderline Koky, so it was pretty funny to see some come up.It's especially because this guy was like the least cocky person. I know for some reason he's just lacked in onTowero terror. That's where yeah this! This is where I know this is my breadand butter of you know being Kaki and letting people know what's up. That'swhere he's digging the heels in for sure for sure wild stuff, Wat suff. Now you mentionedthat football is more. Your Forte thanbasketball is yeah a little bit you want to do you want to start with somefootball? Do you want to give your football predictions for two thousandand twenty one, even though, were what five months from the season startingstill live months like a hundred seventy days until we play Alabama andby we the University of Miami is alum there. I can predict that Miami willlose Alabama that one I do now, whether I want you or not. I will convincemyself the week leading into it that Miami will beat Alabama only to have myheart ripped out in the third quarter. When I go, Oh, my gosh, we don't havethe death that they do so. I know that, and man who's, the team. You know I thinkAlabama will be just as good. I think Clemson. You know I think Clemston's going to be it nextyear, just kind of like the down year this year of getting beat knocked out.Trever Lawrence is gone, so it's kind of like that next step and recharging.So I think I think Clemson's got it if Justin fields had stayed at Ohio, state,I'd say Ohio State, but I just I think you know there's too much. What's crazy,actually, like time is into basketballs, watching the blue bloods of collegebasketball, and you watch this tournament, you go. There's anythingcan happen this year like Inzaga, yes, should probably win it, but they mightget knocked out on the second round. At this point, you always know that Whoo,the four or five teams that are going to be in a college football playoffbecause there'se such a gap right now, so it's pretty crazy, but hey alsowatch out for Oklahoma Man. They always find another quarterbacksomeway somehow these days with. What's his name in charge of it, you knowagain college football expert. I sound like right now taking curious nets, yes, Oklahoma andthose guys man. What's the coaches name, keepit just fell, fill for me. Okay,were we're filling some time here. College basketball is happening rightnow, college football, of course, as...

...you said, a hundred seventy days in H,future college baseball, Lincoln Riley there w there we go o SCO basketball,we're done with football don to football, I'm just skipping overcollege baseball. I have no input other than someday I'll go up to Omaha forthe old ey little league world series, but that will be not this year because still a lot notdon't really want to travel to sporting events this year, and neither do a lotof these NCA teams, since they are all playing in Indiana around. I thought itwas all in Indianapolis specifically, but it appears that the entire state isgiven it. The old college, try literally and also different times thanusual, we're getting the first four all on Thursday that was wild. I justlearned this. Like two days ago, I was looking at him like Saturday. Thiootheygot games if for the first round, that's not right. That'i'mjust, likeCallin up CBS, just being like this cannot be right and Yit turns out thatit's Fridays that first round ind Saturdayis the first round, which I'mkind of excited for because then Saturday you get that full day. But what am I going to work on Thursday?Now like? This is ridiculous. I know I know I was fully expecting the Thursdayand Friday to be pretty useless. I've already warned a few people like hey,might be a little slower to respond Thursday and Friday, but now I guessThursday will be just a normal. I guess I can get some stuff done then, onThursday Yo know at just man, I work at a school leading Tora Spring break. Iwas so excited in Activ to me. Focus for those two days and it' feel likethe Games are on. What are you going to do and that been working athletics atmy school too ind be like that. That's right, you're, an athletics Gy. Youshould probably watching college basketball at twelve thirty in theafternoon, and now I don't have an excuse to do that. Now, I'm just likeWoh Yah. Yes, we got to do something here. You can be prepping for the first fouryou've got to spend six hours, just sittand sit and not doing work. Yeah Imean. Definitely a lot of brackets will still get made, and Nice thing aboutThursday, then is. I can really have more time to make another eightybrackets just so. I can hopefully win that prize money for spand. Absolutelyyeah. You've got to fill out, I'd, say a minimum of four five. I'M I I've try to be more of the mindset oflet's do one bracket for all my entries and justlive with it because I have run into issues of- and this is the same if youhave like eight or nine fantasy football teams where you're. Basically,you don't know what you're rooting for at one point but yeah, I do think like if you getthe endless enturies and something like espn, where you can just throw in a fewdifferent brackets and try and win whatever it is a cheep bringler and amillion dollar this year. Whatever the prize is b t, I think you got ta go for.You got to have a few that are wild. You know you got a fourteen seat in thesweet. Sixteen, even though rarely happens, but you don't want to be theone to miss it when it does happen exactly and to make sure that thepeople at home know you can actually it's an Acura this time H, okay, Kayyour attorney challenge, so just wanted to make sure we cleared that up, not adeep rangler. I don't want people get too excited ackar still a nice car, though I wasRedo. Buick, though get ready for those commercials, God as actually somethingI want to dive into, does not have anything to do with bask. Absolutely sotired of these buic commercials with the NCA tournament. I hated them nineyears ago when they started. I still hate them today. They have not gottenany better they've, only gotte worse- and I just at this point I refuse toever buy Vuic, I'm just I I Adam just principal. I just can't do it themarketing sterrible the commercials are terrible and that little song like rananyway. I can't even do it yeah Mattn Kim, with the the backing track theregreat music video, though I would recommend watching that music video,you might be scarred by the song. It's Mattin Kins, matten, Kim the thelekteTDTMA Kimsong is called it's all right and it's a great music video. I wouldrecommend it's them in bad, doing and crazy calysthenics. I know I'm sorry V. I don't even know what to think right.Now I alo got had a Buick in college. Itwas my parents old car and they let me have it senior year of college and thenit's spun out on the highway, not more so because Iwas trying to change lanesand then another car tried to speed up to get around me. So it was some quickTokyo drifting to avoid a collision there, and instead the road was slickand stuff. So I don't blame Buick for it. I'm not saying like the Buick Igave out on me or anything, but it I mean it did actually like survive. Thatis just tires tires needd to be replaced, but otherwise solid car. ButI agree the commercials are intare. It's pobly an amazing car. It'sprobably really well probably really enjoy driving one, but I just addedprincipal wil never buy one now. So that's my that's! My vuic take hot takehere. What would be the top car on your list? An ACURA yeah, because I'm Gointowin the tournament challenge. So yes has to be an accurate. This point. They ask you when you win. Do you wantan accurate like I'd? Be Okay with it,...

I guess o like okay, we'll give it tosomeone else. I live in New York City. What Dore you want Ming to do parks onthe street. All the time like give us out of here. Yeah! That's! I guess an Acra Wild beeasier to navigate than a GE prangler in New York, but still not great. I don't want to doeither of them so yeah they can just I'll give it. You know what I I'll giveit to somebody. If I win it, yeah find like a deserving college student orsomething that there you go in lieu of paying for their books. Gog I'd ratherhave a car than book money, yeah, exactly Soundin and I' also you'regoing to Stolp to pay for the tax on it too. So good luck hid yeah, it'sjustit's, just like winning on prices right, thr, they're thrilled then, butas soon as the cameras go off to great, you want to keep any of this fork overthirty Fivezand, real, quick, let's ever a free car anyway, all right,my bad ido, reell Tus, I'm! So sorry! No! No! I Love! I love some derailments we always enjoy it now. I'd say I'm more of a collegebasketball watcher than you are we're talking before hathow. You are veryquickly just getting caught up to speed on things going on. You were shocked byseeing familiar names like Kentucky and Duke First Time they haven't made thetournament sine one thousand nine hundred and ninety five I've read oncefor three thousand times across the SPN and any other sporting network. So ourfamiliar faces are kind of out A. I mean there's still plenty ofrecognizable dames in the tournament, but you've got you got teams likeHouston as a to seed Enzaga as a one seed. They didn't lose a single game. This,that's incredible. I mean it just. I know, and I know that their schedule isnot as strong, but it's unbelievable to still go twendy. Six in out I mean Isaw who was it t that Sait Joe's team Bickin with? Was it Jamir, Nelson backin two thousand and four with that went undefeated for most of the season,great pom and just kept winning games in the tournament too? So I mean ifyou're underfeated, you're, pretty darned good yeah, you can only beat the teams thatare in front of you and they tried they had a game with Baylor that waspostponed because of Covid, which I think this tournament is largely going to go off without a hitch.I say with extreme caution: There's I just heard the some guy from the NCAA.I don't remember his name, I'm sorry but he's on the committee, and he wassaying that they still played about eighty percent of games. That werescheduled this year, which seemed like more than I would have expected,because I definitely read: Some teams were having month layoffs in betweenplaying, and I heard an interview with some some Texas coach, maybe Youtep,Texas, Ell Passo. No New Mexico states coach. That was, it doesn't matter who? What coach, butthey just didn't, have a game for like a month and they were just living inhotels because they traveled to the next place and then that game will getcancelled and they're like well. We don't want to go back in case we'relike stuck somewhere, so it was didn't Haden with Michigan to like Michigandidn't play for a lone time. I've had a lot of Michigan Bass like big tenbasketball on recently as I catch up on this, and the same thing happened tothem mean it's just a wild year with that and it's funny. It's like funnyrecords that you see colgate. Who is you know, fourteen and one and couldhave been the other undefeated team and here playing a team that almost playedthirty games like they played fifteen games and it Wa e Playe? Thirty Argusup play twenty two and six, so twenty eight, but it's still ridiculous. Wherethis just I don't know how the selectioncommittee did it and then the rules that are in there have you heard aboutthe rules. If a team withdraws by Tuesday yeah, then then one of thusliterally make it literally first for out go in this time. It's such a weirdthing: it's a you're not in, but just stay ready, because you might be yeahsstay by the phone until Tuesday. It would be so amazing if there was likeyou know what we're always going to replace it with somebody in the by theend of the tournament. All of a sudden, you know Duke, is actually in thetournament because they lost so many teams along the way to fill in just aton of asterisks than any any victory. I am pulling for Colgate, because Ilove rooting for toothbased teams. Teams named after toothbaste and Ithink cool gates got it. I mean they're, the only one named after toothbasecress college did not make it. Sadly, I'm so happy been waiting to just laythat joke at'sgreat all right we're out of here everybody. Yes, we're done. I'MGOIN NA go brush my teeth with some Col game and that can clud Tim preet. So I am interested because everythingthat I've read really quickly about this right now is colegate runs thefloor. Arkansas runs the floor and just sounds like it's going to be a scoringaffair. So that's actually one of the Games, I'm pretty interested in andErybuddy Tim Reynolds of the AP who I follow on twitter was pretty big oncogate and saying they're dangerous, dangerous fourteen seed this year, yeahyou've already done more homework than I have. I think on this by quoteind TimReynolds, but yeah. I think it's very...

...interesting. I feel like some of theseseeds, I mean we say this every year. He could. You could insert any numberin any year of like that. Thirteen sage should have been an eleven or likeGeorgia, tech, one, the entire ACC and is a nineseed like that's, seems verylow and I think, we'll probably end up hurting a higher seed somewhere alongthe line. Where you know it's: A team like Texas playing abeline Christian,who is a lockdown type of teams of Texas. It just is 't making shots like that,could be an instance where they played a very good season and they justhappend to face up against someone. That's bad it's, but I think that'sjust like in life, you know you're having a a great day and then y. u youget like a project at work and just completely boofit, and then it ruinsyour whole rudes ar whole spring, and that is important, live lesson bredright there and how the incident tournament is life. True that I can get better stuff thanthat right. There, people so tay that when you go to work tomorrow, rememberyou could be when things go wrong, you could be Texas, like that's what youkind of got o think well have bumper stickers printedshortly with that. Well, so I think the from US talking earlier before also aswell and kind of looking at this bracket. Whuld intrigues us the most-and I know it's really easy, because everyone does this because it's thetwelve five upset, but we were retually really all four of those games. I cansee all five teams. Ilor. Excuse me all four of the five seeds winning thosegames are all four of the twelve seads winning those game yeah. I thinkthey're all very interesting, like different styles of play and a lotof them, which I am very excited about, and, ironically enough, Georgetowndefeating Crayton by thirty pointts to win the biges George downs, O twelvecratons of five they're, not playing each other, but that's still. I thoughtthat was pretty interesting, that we could very well see sort of a similarmatchup in the terms of thise, two Tams winning, but that's a it's a stretch. Iget it, but I actually very much like the Santa Barbara Gout shows for thesmaller school. Sometimes I do kind of I mean I definitely look at how theyare as a basketball team, but I've always liked the UCSB mascot there.Sadly they're, not the sant a Cruiz Banana slugs, which I think is one ofthe greatest mascots. But just a very you know it's like a masked bandit andI think that's that's pretty good, that's among among the best mascots inthe field this year and Crayton actually of again, itseemed like Michigan, basketball and Craytin basketball, where, like the twogames in the or the two teams that I all OFA suddensaw the most just because they would be on TV when I was T adim on and Craton,I really actually liked for a little bit but after the mcdarmics scandal andthen what they did in the Big East tournament. I was ICIN two weeks ago aslike that's my sleeper team. I'm feeling really good about them and nowI'm just the other way and Everythidghe's talking about thegouchows and I'm kind of behind on the GOUCHOTE. It is amazing how quickly things changein the tournament like yeah a week or two ago, you're real high on a team oryou're, like this team sucks that you stank, and then you see the bracket andyou're like actually, no, I can see that ye it happening, and I mean it'svery. I think I think my record for perfection in a bracket. I remember oneyear I got like six or seven right to start, but usually it's within thefirst three games. You've lost you've lost something already. Sometimes itmight be a final fourteam that gets knocked outand I try not to pay attention of what timethe Games are, but occasionally I'll look at that first game and I'm like Idon't know if I want to invest too much in this team, so that like in eitherone of these teams, so that in case they lose, I don't want my first gameto be just horribly off. Well, that always seems to happen. Now too, islike the noon. Twelve. Thirty Games with a high seed that starts it seemslike an easy lock. I remember Baylor a few years ago against Georgia. State isthit Samething, like that dailor team was so good and it just was a terriblestart time for them and the thing as like on the east coast. So they wereplaying eleven o'clock game on the East Coast for them and, like you, just gotto actually factor some of that stuff in where you have to actually look atthe times and say: Oh, maybe that's not the best time for them to be playing,and again it's crazy too, because they're all just I it's amazing of ayou know the NCAD Doula, that's stuped in tradition, and we have to doeverything. And then this year it's just like we're going Ta makeeverything up on the fly. All of a sudden there's teams that are coming inthis whole podcast were toing could be relevant in two days when five teamsthat are new in here and we're like Wel, we pick that team to go all the way andther's just out all of e sudden Louisvilles in for them and so like I'm.So I'm I don't know, there's probably an answer to this, but I know it's it'sthe first four out that come in, I think, Louisville's number one so say:Illinois goes out DOS. Do they replace Illinoiss the one seed like whathappens there?...

I don't know that's a great question. Iwas just Lin a everyone else, move up or like that's A. I guess, we'll well have to wait andsee crazy. I don't want any of the teams to go out bebeause. They deserveit and things like that, but it maybe that's one of the one seens Olvosis,like you know what one of the top worr teams in the Country Out Louisvilleyour Rin, because why not all right, I'm gonna, I'm not not onthis padgess but we'll get into it all right. I just stok get out of the way.Ho' FAC had so many thoughts about everything. That's going on. I wastalking about times and just how crazy it is at the times they don't haven't,announced any of the times for it. So again we can't even sit here be like Oh.We don't like that. Texas Tech, noonstart against Utah State, you know we can't. We can't do that.Right now cannot, and it's I mean yeah, I think weprobably saymany wildly and accurate things recording this on a Sunday. The hottakes right after the selection show, whereas this will drop on a Wednesday,so yeah two things two or two days for stuff to just go wildly incorrect,because Tuesday night is that cutoff of yes, you have to let yourself now, butwhat about during the tournament F, if an eleven seed, like wins their firstgame and then the three see that they're supposed to play in the secondround, suddenly is out. Do they just advance uncontested, like they did inthe conference cernaments? I think it's uncontested from what they said likeyou have until Tuesday and then pretty much from there it's uncontested and goes on because or I think theysaid like once the NCFA tournament starts. No new team can come in so atleast there's some type of order to this wild West Yeah, pretty interestingthat they put Kansas and Virginia in the same same region as well, whichthose were the two teams that had to bow out of their respectofe conferencetournaments you'd think I mean they're not close enough together that it wouldbe a little ways away for someone to potentially go through both of them,but that could potentially be two uncontested wins for a team liktlet's.Let's say our Gou shows you know. Let's say they play Virginia an the secondround they get through because Virginia has a Covid, a positive covid test andthey're not able to keep going and then Kansas makes it to. What would that bethe Elide ate. I guess they'd play each other and then they, their covid testjust starts coming back positive, again so wild stuff, while yeah it's going tobe nuts when they like somebody, has a perfect bracket and it gets down to like right before thesweet. Sixteen and then all of a sudden there's a no contest for like a to seat.Iowa, Ohio State's got an easy win against Virginia Tech coming up andthen Virginia tech moves on because Isay it's just out because of Covid Imean yeah. I just I know that they're going to get this tournament done, nomatter what and how random it'll be. You know I mean it's always random forsure, but like this year I just seems even crazier. I mean I keep thinkingit's just going to be. You then having to go back and edit when we're like andnumber ten seed, Virginia Tech and then over. It's just going to be you andyour voice like number Tenseet, Louisville, Lugly r analysis all sounds the same.Just like yeah that accteam that really running wild. You know we'll see whathappens hean. Now they had a good up and down year Respectin, you know,didn't you know finishe where they really didn't expect to this year. Soyou know it's get we can throw on generic stuff. Oh yeah, that's myfavorite college basketball analysis. I don't again. I don't watch enoughduring the season where I can accurately say. I know. Illinois has aPlarnam COFE. I, which I always want to call coffee and will regardless, butcoffee, is very good, and I know Illinois has somesome other good players. Loyal, O Chicago grew up, like fifteen minutesfrom the campus saw them play back in W thusandyd eight two when they made thefinal four all exciting stuff, but probably going to have them losing inthe first round this year, because I try not to get too attached to previousyears, but I definitely still have those teams that I always just pencilin for a first round Moss, but none of them are in the tournament. This hearthere's always pit, there's always New Mexico, and I just have an irrationaldislike for noto dame so I always have notoed I'm losing their first round,although lately they have been pretty good when they're in the tournament. SoI'm glad none of those teams are in here to give me an either an easy victory or an easy loss.So my team that I actually like a lot, which is hurts my soul but they've beenso consistent recently and usually I would do that where I pick them to losefirst as Florida state, I think they make a pretty decent run. I don't meanI like it. Doesn't sound a lot of people are sold on Michigan you knowand that Georgetown Colorado matchup doesn't strike fear with Florida state.So you know I can see them making a pretty big RUB, but yeah they'vedefinitely switchd from that like day one pencil and lost. I like, I reallyhave to actually think about them...

...making far. If I want to take thisbracket seriously, I know you have to try and put biases by a sesside alittle bit. I still still remember the year loyal, tof Chicago beat Miami arall the mater. I was making. I Made Friends with a Tcu Dad and the son thatwere behind me and the Dad Sumi Miami sure se's like how far do you have themgoing. I said I have them losing this game that they're playing right now andhe was he was ama or that one I was very for a while. I was like. Oh, Idefinitely blew that pick but like miamiis, going to win it's cool andthen m me blue the game. I I mean I there's two stories I had to that one.I was sitting at the local bar in DC watching that game and with a buddy andLonnie Walker goes the line to go up. You know made two free throws orsomething like that to go up for and call the game and it be over. The Bartender looks at me and goes congratulations and I go hond. Youdon't say that tames not over. It's like Okam, O Ta man like I'm like justdon't say that walks away and loyal. I gets the Bal Linea Wacker misses thosefree, throwts, Giy, loyal, thak comes down, hits that Buzzer Peter Three Towin and the Guy Looks me comes outer. He goes. Oh, my Gosh, I'm so sorry, andI got that's what you's saying I just so desponted also loyal ofChicago, probably that game I'v. I want to do a thesis on this. I thinkDestroyed University of Miami basketball. That's I relly possible, not destroyedit, but like that Bers, because it kept having a lot of success. It had good.You Know Bruce Brown wis playing on the nets right now. You've got Lonny Walker.You had before the whole scandals a couple other players that were therethat were really good. I still think if they got through that loyal of Chicagogame, they would have been the final for that year, I'm certain of that, butwill never know, but I definitely think that that that one I I look back atthat. Every time I'm like that team was the best team, they probably had talent,wise and once they lost that. That was it and it's over for the program, andyou know lar and age might be at his end right now, but we don't have to getNiversity Mime basketball podcast out of that whale we're looking at itagain. I look at it every time o see, and I just like. Oh my gosh, I gon'tknow if I should pick them and go all the way or just out of spite get youknow get out of the the first round. Again think I mean either way will be thewrong pick. I think that's what I've learned from this is. This is probablycoming up in, like sixteen seventeen years of doing brackets, almost twodecades that I remember filling out brackets. I don't think I really gotinto it until maybe freshman year of high school freshmen or sophomore year,Yyeah, that's like when I started was twenty year I picked Maryland in thefirst year, then I picked Syracuse the next year wand. They won. I was likeI'm good at thet. This is Asif. They can wait for us and Chris Paul twoyears back to Everyr, like you got to stop picking that, like you graduatedeight years ago, was well going to do it this year, anters that he can't win anyway, so sabout yeah I's about to retire from the NBA and you're still tick and work fort.Despite them not being anywhere near the tournament this year, but yes, lotsof lots of exciting stuff in here. Who Do who do you want? As a pick is yourmost overrated team? I feel like we've talked a little bit, but do you have ateam where you're, just like people are going to be on this team? Not Me man, that's a good question Joey! I don't know enough this year to do it.I think everyone's all over Texas right now everything I e like the firstbrackets that came out Texas, and that means that they're not going to make itthey'll. It's like what you said: You're just going to have lifesometimes and be Texas and lose in the first round. So I'm going with Texas ismy overrate team. Even though I don't know anything about Texas this year,Love Ithesa everyone's picking them to go far. I think that's fair. I think theyaalysis. That's esiitely fall apart, yeah 'not here for actual analysis. I likethat. I like well see to the pants yeah like the Lo ar don't be surprised, DontBe Aste G. DON'T LI SURPRISE! This fifteen suin roobs off a few winds,don't be surprised yeah. I think Texas is probably a pretty good pick. I waslooking at Kansas because I feel, like everyone, awways pencils in Kansas,even though they've kind of had a weird year, but I think people just see thename and they're like I don't know anything about eastern Washington. I'veonly visited Seattle, which is not on the east part of Washington, so I don'tknow what's going on over there and which drake just looks like like aHarry Potter character for that Whitch does state drink game USC. I shouldbelieve in them because my sister went there, but I don't I so it looks likeKansas has an easy route, but I think the winner of which does stat an drakecan sneak into that sweet. Sixteen thatat's going to be my one bold pickfrom that region of the eleven seed making it to the sweet. Sixteen and Ilook forward to USC beating them by twenty five mand I'll be real wrong. Istill have uscevery time with like the...

OJ NAO team. That was supposed to bereally good. Like I every time I seen USCE and basketball in the rank, andI'm like okay mals on that team, they're pretty good, they cound make arun it can just like. I need to stop going up stuff. I did years ago and itsthe Waiy is my Wakt Forese Pris Ball thing, I'm just like Yeahsik oof thatat some point yeah Easter, Washington's a funny one, because all I think aboutis their giant red, turf, waspoaching football at Georgetown. The team thatwe were playing first in the season had played at eastern Washington in theplayoffs of the one double a whatever an FCS now and so the entire timewewere breaking down film just had to stare at a red turf over and over andover again, and so that that one yea en burns into your eyeball and breakingdown film and just sitting in a dark room all summer as gn a Sayi Oesn, 'make your eyes bleed tremendously. Yeah just come out bloodshot red eyes andjust like, what's going on in there and you're like no, we just watch film witheastern Washington for three hours, and I can't I can't see straight anymore.All I see is read now literally. Every color is red in this isround me. I manthat prepared you, I think, for the last year of just seeing righteverywhere, Orad in in social distancing life, it's good stuff. I'vebeen asking this of everyone that's been on here, but have you picked upany quarantine hobbies did a lot of puzzling for a little bit but actuallystarted that I was getting ready for quarentine because I ha ankle surgerythree months before quarantine started, so I started doing puzzles and all ofthat, so that one I got into was doing puzzles, but I'vestopped recently. I need to actually pick up another hobby again and an myother Hie as like. I've always been a runner, and so it's actually prettynice and been getting a lot more distance again. Now that my ankleshealthy, so you know I know it sounds like. I definitely sound like I'm overthirty now, like I've done puzzles and I'm a big runner. I used to be cool. Ithink so. That's that's my that's my hobbies right now. What have you beendoing? Let's flip this interview, yeah. Well, at the start, it was growing ahuge beard which I have re redone here with this enormous nest. That's on myface and and hair as well. I don't think I got a haircut or a shave forabout three months at the start of I can't imagine. I mean I know that thisis a audio media, but yeah your beard is impressive and tracking. When I goton the zoom call. Thank you also Trye to grow. We talked about this. I triedto go over here to, but my facialer doesn't grow so when I would get on HiZoom, cal, belike yeah, I'm thinking about shaving soon, and I people arlike you're growing a beard and like yeah, I haven't shaven three monthslike what are Youare. You sure you sure you didn't shave, yea you're, justpulling our leg you're just B. Yours is much more impressive than thank you.Thank you. Thank you got to get that high death camera and then they canreally see the the individual whiskers popping through. I started a anewsletter as well. Chris Bounce Pass, Love Sharon, basketball and pop culturestuff for folks that, like reading about it, it'sgood good times so kind of just started as a lark during the summer, but it's been very educational and amlearning more about just like general marketing and like getting people toopen emails with more engaging subject. Lines instead of just like here arebasketball moments, so asking asking fun little questions. I think mydesktop computer just turned on next to me, or perhaps there's a ghost in hereon clear, but bes might be some extrais in the background. It's fineoccasionalghost it's fine, and then I we adopted a second dog before thestory of I quarantine. unbenounced to you know back when quarantine started.I think we all thought this will maybe be like a two o three week. Kind ofhang out at home did not know it would turn into over a year, and so like that, tit was two or three daysbefore my company was like we're working fromhome adopted. I R brought him home. We adopted him a few days earlieber butbrought Merlin home, and so he doesn't know life other than humans alwaysbeing around so so be tough. When you coul be weird, when we go back yeah yea,you guys are back in the office and this guy's. Just where is everybodyyeah all right? Well, good! Luck with that! That should go well. Yeah! I'dtrust him. I trust him more than my other dog Franksie to not I to notdestroy things, but I don't know for how long like I thinkthe longest who's been alone is maybe like four hours just from not being home, but never afull work. Stay workdays worth so we'll say, could be disastrous. Yeah El! Youkeep me posted on that one. We'll do we'll do t te Chris Chris Pass Right.CRISP BOUNCE PASS! Yes, we'll puss that en yeah there we go and it'll be yeah, we'll give Merlin updates. Iwould like to get them involved in...

...basketball, somehow like had to dunkaround your dog tutorial or something well figure it out still playing aroundwithout how it'll look but workshopping some ideas to have dog basketball. Besides Air Bud, we need a new. We dida new dog hero besides a golden retraver yeah yeah. This point, air bud,is what well over twenty five years old. Twenty years old. You know Y S probyfor sure, ase jams coming up again, you know, there's been a couple powerrangers movies, you know so we're good pactm to I forgot that that's that's! Coming out. I heard there was asceme with Pepula Pew that got cut and it had I'm forgetting her name now from Janethe Virgin, not not Jane, not Gena Rodrigez, but another jy, the virginactress also, I have only watched two seasons of Jane the Virgin, so I lookedat who this was, and I was like. I don't know if I recognized this person,so she might come in later or I just have not watched the show in a while,but in any case she had a scene with Peppylapu and apparently it got cut and there was backlash now about pipelepug kind, a ban, a creep which true yeah, yeah, true yeah, there'sdefinitely there's definitely a lot of volunutune stuff. Looking back like O,but Yoa know we can has a different podcast for a different timeom jumpinginto all the things, but ye that's yeah that didn't seem right back. Then,when I was a kid I was like whatever it's onit's on the TV. That means it's.Okay, I's French ohgod! That's not good! That's not good! So I'm glad you knowthey're at least changing up some of it right now. Yeah Yeah, at least at least,remove the lige borderline inappropriateness. It's fun! Well, youwatch like or the onfo yeah and you ruch the original Space Cham and eventhe stuff. That's not like that's, you know creep, and you know big behavioralissues the amount of things that they did there, where you know the two gunmen do Pol fictermen orwhoever it was the Elmor Fudd and somebody else Iforget the the G Y, the gut tit shoots the guns and they like that. One wasjust like Woa, that's just it's pretty good gun violence right there and thenthe steroid stuff that was in the middle of it an there's just a lot ofstuff back then you know Bill Murray, says a pretty like hefty race jokeabout Larry Bird being white, and I'm just like. Oh my gosh like this was nojo there's, not white Larry's, clear yeah, that's it! It sounds like this.Wasn't a kids movie watwhat a Time Still Lov Space Jab,though, even though it is yeah there is some problem so find that line get inwith bill. Murry back then, and now like this Pepala pe one like they justwent one way, Bhat back then and now they're going back the other way, thistime of correcting and so which is again probably the right thing to bedoing. Yeah Ye, you gotta, you gotta, reflect, I guess when you're making thethe new films- but I am I'm excited to see space GAM to, I think it'll, be, I think, Lebron's a better actor thanMichael Jordan, which yes, hopefully there's no haters. For that.I know if you suggest, Leban' a better basketball player some people. Might Idestroy your knee caps, but I think you watch train reck and then you watchMichael Jordan's, SNL appearance or I guess just space tramp watch, packsurtospace jam versus Lebron and trade recod. I think it's clear which one has thebetter cometic timing. Absolutely it's yeah, there's one one you can we candebate who the goat is and basketball. We know who that's the goat and actingfor basketball between the TWOR Soenge go wel, we'll see it out on theaters intwo thousand and thirty seven. Whenever whanever it funly comes out, you knowex base jam will be out by the time this one comes in. The monsters will just be regularpeople among us by the time we're hanging at I, so one one like that one. Instead,thank you, Thi Monsters. Now blending in it is one of us on, starts O fit inside of us the wholetime. Well, we'll try to we'll try to at least tie a bow on March madness.Let's get your early way too early final, four picks. I guess it's not waytoo early. The brackets out, but yhour hot, take final, four picks hot takeall right. I was looking that Texas final four, because they're notoverrated. I think from that region, I'm going togo with it and what I said earlier, I say Florida State, I think they getthrough Michigan and that's the big upset and because you know they've gotsome spirit. Some experience Leonard Hamilton, an them boys. You knowthey've been there before few years ago. So why not? My I think Illinois is really good thisyear, so I'm going to go Illinois and I'm going to go getzaga out of thatbracket, even though you can't trust them, and but you know, my sleeper team craten is gone so so far, let's see-let's remember this before I forget now...

...my way you are Aly Florida state,Illinois, Ganzaga and let's go let's get crazy here in this last one andwe're going to go. Oh man we're going to go North Carolina Dang we just justwhy not you know royit just just. We need some chaos this year, becausethey'll be chos and North Carolina of all the story of like the blue, broadpro blue blood programs that can't make it into the tournament this year andthen it ends up just being North Carolina again in the nationalchampionships like that year, when Kentucky and Ukon were awful and theywere o nines and they made it and it just like these stored programs in isusual, like these teams are awful Thi I this is so terrible. I know I agree. It's very frustrating I if Connecticut,was playing any other two seed in the second round. I I could I like them. It's like a final four team. Again they've gotthey've got that Kimba Walker field of like hey, there's, there's some magichere, but I don't know I have Alabama is one of my final four teams. I'm withyou on Kenzagan Illinois, then we're getting Alabama out of whatever region.That is yeah. I mean I looked at like you, so should pick Alabama, but I havenot watched a single, not watch them. Drivl, O basketball.Once this year, Oh, I think I'm very high on both tha, my other fin offourteens Arkansas, which I think is probably overrating the SEC way toomuch, especially because yeah it was kind of a down here, but I just it'smore, so I don't like the other teasin there as much it's less, I believe inAl Alabami. I think it's pretty good Arkansas. It's not that I believe inthem so much, but I don't believe in anyone else they would face untilBaylor and the elidate who is losing to North Carolina and the second round. Soit could be an Arkansas vors North Carolina, which I feel like happensevery year, north Carolinais, a one or two see they end up playing Arkansasand at's, a as a seven, eight or nine. So we'll get that matchup once again,it'll just be the GH three matchup that we rarely get to say. Yeah get love ofthose matchups. I mean I do love the east that east brackets going to be aton of fun, because I you know thish again, I can see them winning and I cansee them winning the whole thing or losing in the second round Florda statelas I've said I really like Texas is everyone's big pick right now, Alabamayou taked about Ukon being in there as well Georgetown, all of a sudden, seeif they can get some of their magic from the Big East Tournament. All of asudden, you know, I think I think that theycould make a run. My sleeper team. That will say this because I like one of thetransfers, that's there macmcclung, who played at George Son for a little bitand saw him play and bean older as Texas Tech. So that's that's. You knowfurther sleeper out there, Texas Tech is my team love it don't sleep on Texas Tech. Iwill because Arkansas has to beat them to make it my my sleeper team. I saythis because every year, every year, when they sneak in Syracus, they've got a nice littlematchup with San Diego state right and then their plans either morehead stateor an overrated West Virginia Tam. I N- I don't like it, I don't like it, but Imight have them in the weet sixteen yeah and the're in that eleven Seev,where they've always cash, Darnit they're going to do it again, they're,always in that B, whenever they're in tha, the the bottom right of theBracketlevin seelik well might as well just put them in the final foor orAleade ate at least e lead. Eight Yeah Wow, oh my gosh, looking at that yeah,that's, that's! That's they're! Going to they're going to do that! Aren'tthey that makes me sick, I'm just kind of go all right! I can't I can't Ican't I don't know what makes me more sick if you are commercial started thisSyracese seeting right now. Well before before you go vomit into abucket. We always like to wrap up with the top three we got to go because thisis how we first botted was dreres and actually labeled it because t's, theinside joke we've had for so long and he all he as I'm getting the Lord oflike you, have this Drewbreez podcast. I also got the alert that he retired,so we got to go top three and drew greese moments. Let's do it, let's doit and I'm guess I'm starting. I thoughtyou ger start because I could know you're doing all three you're doing allthree an do it all three of them: Wow, I'm going to have to go with the timethat he signed with New Orleans, because I think that meant a ton of thecity. I think the time that he then won the Super Bowl. So that's number twoand then number one, even though he wasn't in the commercial is that ESPNcommercial with Scott Vam pelt and the tired of local radio. Who that...

I want to talk about the Navericks whothat RU is number one. It has to be number onedat top TAV three number one drubry's moment in his NFL playing career. Absolutely, I think how many otherstudents in our sport admen classes did we get to either yell drew brees orlearn about shy city, Mr Shi city, via Beacom, and during the projector inclasses just playing, I that was wild. Oh, my Gosh, where weshould just take a sledge hammer to class, because our professors just wouldn't doanything, and I just like I'm Goingna, do it I'm just going to create anarchy, I'm going to be on this tower, O tearhere I've ever one time we just went nonstopinto just video after video af one of thestudents, the kids, like no one kind of got what we were doing at first, butthen I think it was like one of the women's basketball player or somebodymaybe from the volleyball team, and she was just like. I know what you're doingandand it just it was wild. Oh my gosh, we're not geting any context. I this atall other than pretty much happened is Joe and I were in a few classes.Together we love putting on videos and so every once in a while. We would docurrent events and someone wel put on a youtube video. Then one of our teachers, just we had oneyear, just didn't really care or able to control the class, and it was istvery frustraang he's like I'm want to learn something actually. But if you'renot going to make any effort and you're just going to make us do youtube videos,because you don't want to work, I'm just going to just mess up all of class,because this is what it is now. There's other details in there too,that you probably remember and can fill me Inbo an again. I can't Oh, my gosh.What a throwback to that yeah. I think that was a great great summary and yeah. Just just anarchy, I think, isprobably the best way. To sum it up is just complete college anarchy, as as itshould be, it's good. Yes, I mean most people do like crazy things. You knowlike they go out to clubs and you know really find themselves or you know,Goin some journeys and you know spring breaks where they do just ridiculous.An anagains us our anarchy was youtube. Videos cowwe. Should them we got toUniversceye Miami, stuck it to you that computer search historygot to be wildof youtube videos. Oh my Gosh! I just remembered that then I did that at a H,a professional development thing forteachers. It was for physical education and it was part of the Catholic Church,because the school I worked at was a Catholic school, and so we would haveto go. Do these like Catholic professional developments, which wasalways weird, because we were a very progressive, more liberal Catholicschool than the conservatines wo, just kind of geveveryone together. Also theCatholic schools when it comes to professional evelopment for physicaleducation didn't care, so they would like Paris in there and be like what doyou guys think about this new system for the computers and like ore, likelet's learn about this and we're just like none of the supplies to us likewe're not actually doing professionavelopment for teachers, andso it literally got in there again when we started talking about like Ohthere's, all these different games that we can do, and so then we gartedputting on youtube videos and guess what I did at just something was like.What's that game, it's like you know, shoot Bal at which is this crazy game,and then it was like. Oh I brought up. I like yeah. This one game reminds meof Slam: Ball back in the Dan was likewhat Slam Ball. Ind like. Oh, we have to watch Slambo, which then we started watching like NSLSlam Ball, which was then fend, and we just kept going down thes spiral ofvideo, so it was a traditial, probably one of the best lessons I ever learnedwas doing that back in college because I learned it then to then createanarchy, and I'm just like. If we're do waste my time, I'm going to wasteeveryone else's right now, you don't Care Ev, be in this room for fortyminutes, I'm going to destroy it, because this is ridiculous. When it'snot productive and that's the takeaway, that's thetakaway of o by SA Conference, yeah theye Re Sur.We just went down there eron. We did that for a little bit an makes mySunday night excellent excellent. That's what I'm here for. If peoplewant to hear more hot takes from me work, they find you yeah. Actually weare doing something really cool. I do a podcast with my mom called walking onwith Chris Hays, and it's usually Tbout University of Miami football during theseason. It's a lot of fun. We have a great time with it. Even if you're, nota university of Football University, O Miamie football fan, we try to justkind of educate, it's fun. Having mom talk a little bit more about XS Andosand getting her to like talk about tha like e're UN past option and thingslike that, and she just loves the players, so we're usually doing thatduring the season. One of the actually we talked about the hobby that you weretalking about. I work at an old girls school up here, New York, so I'e reallytried to focus mot more on women,...

...athletics and again, a lot of it notbeing promoted, and I've done a ton of research. So probably one of my hobbiesrecently has been a lot of reading and finding materials talking with friendsthat I work with a just about how to get more out there for women's Sports,so we've actually started a ten part episode for the offseason calledwalking was not walking on with Mama Hays, but it's kind of like that. It'slike right now we're in the middle of talking nine with mamahays. So it'swe're talking title nine and the back story of that. So still look underwalking on with Chris as it'll come up, because we didn't really feel likebreak branching out and doing a whole new podcast thing, but do that it'sreally great. We did a first episode kind of introducing just what our planwas or just getting the ball rolling. We started with one episode on title:Nine, so far read ov two more episodes on title nine. I will sell the firstepisode with we get into La Manusha. That's always a great talk, but we getit's going to get a lot more exciting and then we're going to do a three partseries on the US, women's national team and talk about them and then wrap upwith the WMBA, because the amount of work that they do off the court isabsolutely incredible and just needs to be promoted as much as possible,whether it's, the thirty listeners that I have or on like ESPN, so boom boomlove. It love it and I send Karaoke at a WNBA game one timeso well about yeah. That story right now: Ol Owe're, not dismounting, okay,not this funny. Yet this is back in wo thousand and FTEEN. Maybe I went to afriend's birthday party. It was at Karaoke, saying the song want to wantme by Jason Derulo, which was the hot track so whatever, whenever that songcame out, t o thousand an fourteen tity fifteen and the birthday girl sistercame up to me and said: Hey. I work for the Spurs I and and the silver stars who worked forboth like worked like at the stadium and also like with the organization. Idon't exactly remember what her title was some kind of operations thing andshe was like we're doing this thing for I for the Silver Stars Games the WBATAME in San Antonio to she's, like we're, trying something newer,basically going to do like Karaoke and halftim she's, like I'd love to featureyou because, like no one knows we're doing this, so we kind of need to doplants as like the first first round and then hopefully we'll gete people tosign up, and so I was like sure like what is and she's like next Friday.She's like I'll give you tickets, you can get two tickets for free and likecome in and sing, and I was like okay. So I convinced a friend to come downwith me and not a basketball fan at all, but shewas like I'll come ip come watch with you ennot and we get down there. I meetup with with the the woman working there andshe's like all right I'll get you set up. It's me, one other random, dude andE. This, like thirteen year old girl, that was the daughter of some executivewithin the program, and she sings think she sings the man in the mirrorby Michael Jackson, which was just like Loike, a five minute log song and likereal, deep, an intenti. She had a great voice like she was. She was a very goodsinger, but I was just like what Ad What an interesting choice for for,like a basketball game to like this is half time, entertainment and we'redoing this like slow sombre of to its pretty magical. I tried to get theenergy backup by doing, I believe in a thing called love by the darkness. Oh,is it easy crowd? Plaser get some high fall set out, you're fin you're Fineah,but that was my one and only time singing karaoket a professionalsporting event wow. They got to be careful. Those times too, because, likeeveryone, does like a five minute song, I was in a get like piano man or likeAmerican pie up there and that's always a brutal Karaoke song, because peopledon't realize it's six minutes long. So that would be great, though, if, likeeveryone did five to six minutes and then the WMBA players are comeg likesubirds coming out there and just sort like what is. I want to just play. Basketball, OH-and I did want to say this too, because since we're talking about a lot more ofthe women's sports and all that a definitely if you get a chance to watchYukon woman's Basswell this year and page Buger like she is the real dealand its a ton of fun to watch like she's still stupor raw. But you knowbiges player of the year like rookie of the year there. She is amazing to watch.So definitely you gat a chance to watch youcot women's basketball this year,not as a Ukon women's zealot by any means, L Ke, because I know that thoseealets exist in this world, but just paid veger she's, the nice real dealand just a ton of fun to watch when you have a chance this bracket or for thewomen's bracket and tournament definitely watch her. She's great boomis Yukon your tournament favorite o teens bracket. I, like I mean I haven't,died ISO. I A COMEI, probably know more about on women's baskballthers yearthan I know about any other men's team this year, which is kind of cool butyeah like they would be just because that's the only one I've really watchedand, of course, like anytime, you watch. Oh Man, I watch them play TennesseeTennessee sneaky this year, so wanch for Tennessee, but yeah Yucon. Ithink's going to get it done this year. Fantastic stuff will Chris alwaysalways a pleasure catching up tu back...

Mamenis last year. This is great. It'syou kn. I know we're not back to normal or ever being normal blah, Blah Blahand so tired of hearing that, but it's so good to have some sports back andtalk, TAK, coops and and just reminisce about college memories that everyone'sheard eight times down this podguast ts the first time for this podcast inprevious iteration. So not not everyone, s joined the journey, the whole way,which is always fantastic and, of course we got to wrap up with a Cornyjoke, as we often do as we always do really. Did you hear the joke about thebear, then? No that's good, because it's unbearable,hey good! After today, people good people, cool things is produced inAustin Texas. You dug this episode, go ahead and hit that subscribe button,whether you're on apple podcast, Sponifi, stitcher, pod, chaser or anyother podcast AP. I want to keep delivering great content to you. Youwant to keep herein it hap that subscribe button. We'll see you nexttime.

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