Good People, Cool Things
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Episode 68 · 1 year ago

68: The Legacy of Freddy Powers and The Spree of '83 with Catherine Powers and Jake Brown

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Some people just have great stories. For Texas Country Music Hall of Fame inductee Freddy Powers, he could barely go a day without something memorable happening. Alongside his widow Catherine Powers and music biographer Jake Brown, the late musician is the driving force behind the new book, The Spree of 83: The Life and Times of Freddy Powers.

This episode gives us a glimpse inside that book—and then some. From Freddy’s legendary comedic personality to his penchant for writing hit songs, Catherine and Jake go back and forth sharing stories.

We’re covering topics like headlining casinos, building an airplane to hunt for fish and sunbathing women with Merle Haggard, living on Willie Nelson’s golf course, the funeral that turned into a roast, and so much more. Whether you’re a country music fan or not, this is a terrific one.

Good people cool things as a podcast feature and conversations with entrepreneurs, writers, musicians and other creatives. Get inspired by their stories to do your own cool thing, and here's your host, Joey held. Welcome to good people, cool things. Today's guests are Catherine powers and Jake Brown who, alongside with the late Freddy powers, are the authors of the spree of eighty three, the life and times of Freddy powers, who's widely credited for bringing Dixieland jazz into the Nashville mainstream. And my goodness there are so many wonderful stories in this book. Katherine and Jake are telling us about a few of them. It's an oral history of Freddy's rock and roll lifestyle, from things like building his own plane to taking people up to his penhouse, getting them drunk and then bringing them back down to gamble at casinos, to multiple festivals and his very fantastic sense of humor. We're covering all different kinds of things in here. And you know what, Catherine and Jake made this very easy for me because they have so many good stories to tell and share that they just got on a roll with them. And when I don't have to ask any questions. That's super easy for me, and so it's very fun back and forth between them as they're recounting all of the very enjoyable moments of Freddy's life and a lot of great quotes in here and even more in the book, though. There's all sorts of songwriters and stars that they've chatted with, including Sunny Throckmorton, Paul Bus Kirk, Floyd till Mentinya Tucker big and rich Larry Gatlin, producer, Franklydell. Freddy was great friends with Willie Nelson and Merle Haggard and it's just there's so many terrific stories it's hard to get into all of them that are in the book, but we're getting into plenty in this podcast and that is a perfect jumping off point. Like to get in touch with the show, you can reach out via joey at good people, cool thingscom or on facebook, twitter or Instagram at GPCT podcast. And there's a brand new selection in the merch shops. Actually an etsy right now, a little combo with my food blog life, just etsycom slash fat food teas, Ph at podt es, and we're alls drop in the spotify link to the soundtrack of the spree of eighty three in the show notes. So once you listen to the episode, head on over to that and listen to all of the great songs as well as some wonderful live performances. And also you get it. You get a sense of the sense of humor, I guess, a taste of the sense of humor. So we're not seeing sends multiple times. Either way, it's wonderful all around. And now let's hop into the conversation with Catherine and Jake. Freddy had his own joke night and and they held it up at John Rich's house and we'll tell you more about that. But this guy you had to have a thick skin to hang out because Freddy was text to the phone man. There's a funny story in the book where Willie and Freddie back before cell phones whack, when phone companies still charged by the minute for long distance and oversees. It was like three or four minutes. You guys remember how crazy it used to be? Yeah, but both hands got charged. Yeah, so you except if you accepted a cough from overseas, you got charged and they got charged for calling you from overseeing. Yeah, so willie would be on will catherine could tell you will he would basically be on tour. If he heard a joke, he'd call Freddy and then Freddie would call him tell her, tell him the story. It's a great story, if you like. Well was he would just call him at no time, you know, time didn't matter, and they betimes when the phone would ring. It like four clock in the morning and or three o'clock in the morning. And we Willie to tell Freddys joked her and by the time he got home, though, Freddy had already been out of the golf course and told the joke. So when will you get home? They look at him like, well, Freddy's already tell bat one. If the end of the month they would get these three and four hundred dollar overseas phone bills and...

Catherine would have to sit down with the two of them and say no, this is stuff funny, but you got you know, and I'm sure Willie would pay these at some point on his end and hear the same. Now, Freddy actually started this, you know, working on this book years before you know he and I started working on it. He had worked on it basically telling his life story, and then when he'd be out on the road with Merrel and he would work on it or he had bring it home and work on it. So basically Freddy wrote his own story. Jake and I just kind of filled in all the places where Jake did a lot of the interviewing, making sure that you know, all the stories kind of coincide with everybuddy else. And so I'm I'm trying to figure out what jakes telling me. What do you want me to say? I supposed to build them a catherine is saying. You know, Rolling Stone magazine called this a poignant and often poignant oral history of one of the unsung heroes of country music and then American songwriter in the rite up they did just recently on the book really in print. So it was really like Bona fight. As did C mt when he passed, said, you know, and one of the messages with the book we're driving home from the country audiences that Freddy is really responsible for really introducing Dixielan jazz and the country music for the first time, and that's an important thing. If you listen to today's country and how regular you'll hear a turn arounds or different arrangements that reflect that and Merle in that fact that it was injected really voluntarily into his sound once they started writing together and playing together. There's a so there's a story there. Freddy's Power Chords, which are also in the book. They we really analyze them through all his band members. There's a soundtrack. But if you go back, way back in time, there's also friendships in this book. They're inspiring. Like Willie Nelson and Freddie met in the s under the tutelage of Paul Buskirk, and Willie and Merle, excuse me, Freddy and Merle met first. What cast was one thousand nine hundred and sixty owner sixty two? One thousand nine hundred and sixty one. Yeah, these are and they reconnected in one thousand nine hundred and seventy nine. But your eight hundred and seventy eight. But you're talking about lifelong friendships that then extended through the Parkinson's, through all the hard times, the good times, the bad time. So calling at the three of eighty three. It really was a wild story and they lived a wild rock and roll lifestyle out there on the house boats, to the s and the s and the casinos. Freddy was King Areno but at the same time, there's a lot of real life stories in this book that are equally as heartfelt, you know what I mean, and funny. I don't know. It's just really it's really a book I'm proud of. I we work nine years on it and Freddy did write a lot of it in journal that we found later. We also had three years on the bus with him when his Parkinson's was to where he could still talk. But Catherine had also worked with him beforehand on a manuscript. I got it a hospital actually where this began was two thousand and twelve for me with them in the fall at September at a Va and Nashville at the a hospital of under belt, and they thought Freddy gone into the hospital wasn't coming out and he had actually been coming here to do an interview for the National Song Writer Book, which he then became chapter one of the book, and I thought it was a film. When I look through this I mean wild story. So we've been working since two thousand and nineteen. I went to Texas, thank God, in the fall before covid hit, and we basically went up on Willie's hill and Spicewood and went up the luck headquarters and went to the Koon Dick's headquarters and went to pooties and everywhere that Freddy was a local. He has his own picking pavilion at the LAS CIENDA and really wrote the screen play and I interviewed about thirty New People. I mean it's a cray. There's there's probably sixty interviews in this book. I would think maybe five Thousan five hundred and sixty. And there's that many people, both because obviously we wanted Freddy to have his full story told when he couldn't really speak from Solf, but also Catherine Doug people up from. She's like, all right, I got the bartender from diamond jims and Minnesota, which is at least Freddie would play in the window, was swinging chat trap. He's women swinging from the ceilings. She found the original bartender and main waitress, had waitress there. They both remembered Freddy vividly and gave us a whole chapter of interviews. She found me guys like Milton Quackenbush,...

...you played with him in the s Ralph Sanford, people from the original powerhouse for and what's remarkable to is that I think this is the first time in a country memoir that there's also an official book soundtrack you can listen live and in studio. Fifty Years of music and here Freddy with these guys playing dixieln jazz, playing these crazy shows they play. And then we had people from the s and the s that we hadn't talked to the first time where we sort of tried this and so it's really a complete story. It really tells the front the back. Freddy Powers Sixty Year career. He was a marine, he was a I mean got those stories go on and on with this gentleman. Tell it. Tell Catherine Tomb about Jack Ruby. That's well, he and Jack Ruby were really good friends and Jack Wibby had a club over and Dallas and Freddy had to his club over in Arlington Texas, and they with let's swap out entertainment and Freddy would go and play at Jack's club and they just became really good friends over the years. And the actually Jack even gave Freddy a little puppy and puppy was sick and Jack came back and they both sit and cried over the puppy, you know, having to be put down. It was they had a great relationship. You know. Yeah, and Freddy would argue with you if you tried to tell him you know, that Jack was a part of some conspiracy. It's like no, Jack. Jack was a really big patriot and he admired Jackie and John F Kennedy, and so when John F got killed, will Jag just felt like it was his responsibility to take out the killer or so. But Freddie wouldn't. He would argue and tell you there was no conspiracy behind it. It was just that was just Jack and that was the s and that's even before he had a kiss own club. Even then he'd been on the today show, the tonight show. He'd been signed to it, so major labels. He went to the Nevada back to in the casino circuits where you know from Elvis to anybody who was starting out or big played and he worked his way up and there's crazy stories like Freddy to raise publicity, him and his band members all wrap themselves. It's a scene in the film that's elderly couples driving along and a convertible coop just enjoy the retirement and these guys run up on the road wrapped in these looking like aliens in the cell sort of Tinfloil and and you know it, Catherine can tell you what their motivation was. But it was funny the things this guy would do to bring in the crowd. Yeah, the Freddy was out about publicity and that was daring, the Roswell, you know, things going on. And so they just decided they were going to be aliens for the night. Thank you. They were get some major publicity and they set up that this speaker, you know, where you could hear this Whoa, you know, like a spaceship, you know, and and would run out in punt of the traffic and all this they could there's going to get major publicity. And they walk up the next day and did the newspaper and there wasn't a word in it. So, but he was always trying for publicity. Yeah, and what would have happened eventually is he worked his way up to reach to become a headliner at El Dorado, basically the house band and house performer there, and of course everybody would come into town to play with him. So if Willie Nelson was across the road of the casino or whomever, they'd come over in the whole casino gambling crowd would follow him over to see it. That's how big a draw they were. But on his own Freddie would play all night, even whether he was in his band, and then they would have after shows. He would take the whole crowd upstairs to party with them or and he had power of the pain, which, Catherine untill you, meant an incredible amount of power. He had a suite at the top of the place that was his and power the pain of master goodwill and the mobsters he hung out was, she could say. It's crazy. Yeah, pretty as back in those days, you know, the early S, and when the casinos they were owned by the Mafia pretty...

...much, and so they would all be employees or, you know, work in the Cino and they'd have names like, you know, the beverage manager, the hotel manager, entertainment director, and Freddy did. He had the power of the pins, so he could sign anything. You know, if you wanted to get a room, he could sign you for a room and set you up with meals and tickets to the shows and stuff, and he didn't even get you markers on the table, if you know which. Basically, that's a humongous thing to be able to sign for somebody to get a marker on one of the tables. So have Freddy was quite the ambassador and hey get the parties going all night and is he would say that his job was to take everybody up to his room and get them pretty well drunk and then take them back down to the tables to gamble. And bear in mind to the whole time this is going on, this gentleman is you know, he wins one thousand nine hundred and seventy eight, you know, entertainer of the year award. He's you know, he was a star there. There's a story in the s which jumps ahead of the early S. Catherine Freddie get married and they're up in their honeymoon. What was it? Was it? I always get this wrong. Where were you guys actually up there? Which Mountain Range? Well, we were on the Diamond Mountain rage in the polomus national forest, because that we got married and love like Nevada, which was in the Ruby mountains right outside of Elko. Nevada. So and it is Nevada. You could tell Jake's from up north because he calls it Nevada. In any event, they're they're by Freddy by then was such a legend on the casinos. Scene that would make this funny was they're sitting around a campfire and in the script we depict it that they're leaning in tab their like romance, romantic honeymoon kiss with in reality, down his brother was there and somebody else. But they're a getting ready to fish and this troop of of, you know, sheriiffs with shotguns and everything. They were chasing this gamer named Plaut Dallas who had shot a game warden and he was like an illegal trapper and a menace up in this mountain range. They come running up on Freddy and Catherine was there. She can tell you what happened. But they recul well, they come run it up on us, of course, and they've got guns pointed at us, and that they realized that you know who Freddy was, that you know the Sheriff Daddy, and it's seeing Freddy down in the casinos and Elco and stuff, and Freddy looks up at him and he askingim that that gun was loaded, and he said, well, it would be any good to me if it wasn't. They said, well, would you mind removing it from my leg? But once they realize that it was Freddy, you know of course they, you know, were real kind and and they moved down done. But it shows you how he was recognized up in a mountain in the middle of Nevada because he had and then, you know, if you go over to if you go down to late you know, Bactorno, there's a really pivotal meeting. There was a pastime called picking that weaves itself throughout Freddy's entire life story. Whether he was doing it with, you know, the music and musicians in his band after the show at brothels like Mona's, or whether he was doing it on the road or whether he was doing it in these casino lounges where Willie would come over they or he would go to Willie's hotel room and they would pick. And Catherine could tell you. There's this this really faded sort of serendipitous intersection of you really could call a musical faith. That happened in one thousand nine hundred and seventy eight when Merle haggard knocks on this door, and she could tell you, but Freddy and him becomes kindred from there on and when merl walks in the first thing he says to Freddy, you know, Willie goes to introduce him and he chose to Freddy goes, I like what you did on Willie's album, because Freddy had just produced that somewhere over the rainbow album. And and they got into picking and they picked for and Maril tell you they picked for well, he would have told you for sixteen hours. And then all the sudden Willie looks at and said Hey, guys, it's I got to go to work. So they all went back to work and did their jobs.

And then what was all over would? They ended up right back in Willie's hotel room and went right back to the picking. And from that day on Freddy and and Marl with either drive back and forth. They'd be either Freddy going up to reading or Merrel going down to Reno. And they did a lot of pick until finally merl, as Freddy, said, why don't you buy house vot move up here on Lake just and we worked together and Freddy of course looked at a moral and tell him he's the Merl. I don't have the kind of money you got. Merles, go all money I've got. So Moro actually goes out and buys Freddy this House Boat Eighty Fivezero dollars and parks that right next to him and that after that they were inseparable. It's free of eighty three began, and the significance of those house boats and proximity to each other is when they weren't prettying, which I'll let Catherine get to in a sect, they were writing number one songs together and it began it. It really had. Fifty Freddy had written some songs before and gotten beaten out of the the writing credits. Without getting into that too heavily, he basically merl discovers this great story she tell us about I always get get lucky with you, and that really began this long run of number ones. They called it the three of eighty three because when the wen't party and they were writing, when they weren't on the road, they were writing, when they weren't picking, they were writing. But they were always together creatively in some capacity, even when they were party into do you mind telling them that always get lucky with you story? It's a charming one. Well, it actually if Freddie had written always get lucky with you years before he met Merle and he called it one night on stage. And this one Freddy always says, be your own judge. He called it one night on stage and then one of the guys in the band said, oh no, Freddy, not that song, I don't like that song. So Freddy Ditch that song and it won until years later that he was up there with Merle and he was it around and he was just working on it and Merrel walks in and ask him what he was working on and pretty to you know, basically said, oh, it's just a song. I don't know if they's any good or not. Morrel's asking the title and he said, I think I'm want to call it always get like it with you, and Merrell jumped up said hell, Freddie, the title alone is the number one. So they ended up sitting there working on that song and basically structured it more for Merrole and took out a couple of verses which Morel a been regretted. One of the verses taking it out. You know, it's like probably one of the better verses, but it could became number one for George Jones and then song of the year with Merrel. Yeah, and and that just shows you the the you know. And then also with Freddy, and he talks in the book about natural high which is kind of his signature song. If you talk about solo songs that he wrote and others a friend of California, of course there's there's a you know, let's just each other on the room and that. But natural high really came at the encouragement of Merrole, to tell him, you know, and that's another part of the story that's so inspiring as you see this guy at fifty completely start his life over. He goes kind of peaked with the lounge thing. Now he becomes you know, his songs are hurt all over the radio. I heard them growing up with my grandfather, you know, and in all the game and all these records. But you also get the real like story behind how all these new songs. There's a whole catalog that wouldn't have maybe existed. I don't know, she would know better than I if these others that became out of that friendship. You know. Oh yeah, it is just like a little hotel room. You know, Freddie wrote that one in and actually when he first wrote it and when he finished it, he played it for Dandie Burg Reynolds, which was his up Bass player at the time, and the first thing and he said he goes, you know, that sounds like a Ray Charles Song and Lo and behone it edit it up. One day they were all up in New York and Merle walks in and he said hey, we got anything for Ray Charles and could record? And of course Freddie juts up and he goes yeah, and next thing you know Freddy was sitting on the Piano Stool next to Ray Charles teaching him that Song Chord for cord and word for word. And sad...

...part about it is nobody walked around with cameras back in those days, so there's not a single picture of Freddy sitting on that Piano Stool with them Ray Charles. He was proud of that. As a songwriter. The which shows you within night from seventy eight seventy nine, it's one nine hundred and eighty eight. I think we just won. The song was actually recorded by Ra Charles. The evolution of this whole cattle of the this guy was prolific. I mean they were writing hundreds, hundreds of for the ones that got recorded and you would see them on Ralph emery. In fact on the book soundtrack we have an excerpt, but him and Ralph Freddy and Merlin Ralph emery sitting there and it wasn't like this guy had had to work to become a household name. He became one like overnight in country music, and not just as Merle psychechic, but also for his Dixieland Jazz, because you started to see that in the way that the strangers, you know, and at Freddy touring with them and playing in the group and how that really became a part of their sound. Catherine could elaborate on that more than me, certainly, but it well, it was it, you know, like you said, it became a part of their sound and Freddy was just you know, he was always there with Merrel. Would they had ideas. It didn't take. It was like, let's chase each other around the room. That sound was probably written and, you know, probably ten and fifteen minutes and it became a number one. And it all was because the gal that Freddy was running with it's time said when they they were on their way from Canada back to Nashville and she said, Freddy, when we get to the hotel, I'm going to chase you around the room. And MERL and Freddy looked at each other and it did take up no time and they had written at number one. So yeah, there's also really funny road stories in the book and just you know, that's why when we talked about the number of people we spoke to, we have like principal members of the strangers, you know, merrels group that to attest all this. But you know, there's funny stories like Mark Wall's. Oswald tells the story. who backed them was a tour manager of they pull into Boston. It's like a fortyzero cash deposit he's going to pick up in a money bag and the they parked the bus over at the Boston Commons, which is that big famous parky saw in good will hunting where Robin Williams and member sitting on the bench. It's a famous it's basically the big central Park of Boston. And they get bored on the bus so they get off the bus and they go over into this Little Little Fountain Square thing and start picking on the guitars and Oswald gets back right about the time there's three hundred people, he estimated, standing around this the crowd and all these pissed off street performers because all their business is being taken over and sitting there. He goes into the center and Catherine could tell you what happened from there. But he comes into the center and sees this crowd standing there watching these guys and sweatsuits and sweatpants and hats plip picking away. And what happened from there with the hat? I think mark walks out there, you know, and he just takes his hat off and throws it down and all the crowd started, you know, throwing in money and and all this. So when they got back over to the bus, they're counting out all this money, you know, and divide it up and it come to like forty a person and the sudden merls like Hey, I won't my cut. And so it was. It was like Merl was more worried about getting that fortys in. Thet is upposed get up to fortyzero dollars that mark. It just picked up. And then, you know, there were also times like the Song Silver Eagle, Freddy wrote about being on the road with Merle, because Freddie wrote on his bus most of the time and he in fact one of the journals that Catherine on Earth from another archive in the storage unit. We found Freddy actually from that. I'm sitting in the lounge and Merle's bus right now, it's nine o'clock whatever. We're on the way to block. But it it talked about how when they would pull up places, because Merle really experience this huge boom in the s with, course, the advent of videos and the new hits him and Freddy were writing, it really injected something into a sound. He talks about he got over this relationship and they kind of wrote their way out of it. Place called look for a place of all partner this one. But he talks about the importance of the fact that oftentimes Freddy was the...

...one who could get Merl to go on stage and play. Catherine can a test more to this than I, but it was. It was impressive. The friendship and what Freddy's role became really is, you know, Merle's kind of what would you how would you describe it? Well, actually, you know it was, and and even be, if would testify to this, that Freddy was like a problem solver and if merrol didn't feel like, you want to go play or he'd be ready to turn around and go back home or whatever, Freddy was the one that could talk him out of it and then betimes that merrol would be laying in his bed saying he didn't want to go play and they couldn't wake him up and be if with her. Our norm would say, Freddy, go get Merrila up. Freddy would walk in there and rattle off MERLS prison number. I can't remember the number, but he would, you know, at that prison number and say hit the for merl would chump up in on he go pretty you just care made it out, you know. But more would get out there and go play. But you know, Freddy was the problem solver and he would always be the one that they would go to if they had an issue that needed to be worked out. Plus, if you were in a download or whatever, he was also that comedian that knew how to bring at all out of you and turn your bad day into a happy day. You know. So, so Freddy had a little he wore a lot of hats when he was out there. whould borrow. I always said that Freddy was so witty, but his whole family was that way. They're all just super witty, and I mean on the spur of the moment. You just be sitting there lapping going I would never thought of saying it that way or whatever, but Freddy was he was a comedian at heart, but he was also very witty and another another thing within his comedy that you know in the live albums, the live and Reno and the liven Vegas seventy five that are on spotify right now, along with in the book. It's jumping ahead to say. Once Freddy Got Parkinson's and could not play guitar anymore, he became known for his joke telling. Will he's fourth of July, you know, picked up a front of tenzero. People are he'd be in Europe. He has his own cruise for his Parkinson's foundation and he was really cracking audiences up then. Catherine could tell you some of his bits. They were hilarious. Well, the the one, especially when it come to the Parkinson's, because Freddy always he tried to keep a humorous you know, he knew that he had this disease and there was no cure, fared or anything. So Freddy would do his best to, you know, try and and use that and he would sometimes, you know, get out on stage and he'd sing that first song and then he would turn back and say, I know you're all looking at me like I'm nervous, but I promise you have been up here doing this fifty years. Nervous, I'm not. And he would tell him, you know, that he's got Parkinson's and then he would tell him, you know, his little joke routine would be that merel would telling that it is many people as they had to meet and shake hands ready was already warmed up and the bartender didn't have to shake Freddy's drinks that far him. He could shake him up himself. And and then he would call it. He would say that if he laid out on the beach to get a son Tan for Freddy, they would call it shake and bake and that he was a human vibrator, no batteries needed, and he would invite any woman to come and sit his lap to attest to it. Yeah, when he got Parkinson's. One thing that's really fun in the book to for as much a struggle as that disease was, and we bear all of that. That's very rawly attested to by the nurses, by for his nurse, his row warriors that will come out on the road, like CASS Hunter and Carrie and Freddy. The third is grandson and and all would help Catherine Keep Freddy on the road. The important mean they had a hospital bed in the front of this bus and would just keep him out there, going from induction, Hall of fame induction to hall in fame Aduction, or show to show. They bring him on on stage and the wheelchair in front of Tenzero people, big and rich or Willie or whoever. But even Freddy's own jokes, and I was there for quite a few of them. Some of them we can't tell them on the PODCAST, but this guy had...

...the best sense of humor about this condition. That made everybody else in the room who might have been even having a hard time, because I watch Catherine do everything from being on the phone with Willie Nelson in one hand or or Mark John Rich or somebody talking about the bus and turning Freddy over, getting him set up so he could talk to people. Are Moving them from her back over or tell him what did you used to do when you'd walk him? That was extraordinary to watch. Well, one way, when he first you know, starting with the Parkinson's, you know, you lose your ability to walk and your legs will get you know, kind of just freeze up on you. They call it freezing and so I would walk behind Freddy and I would kick his heels and and get him, you know, keep him moving. But and to the point to where when he couldn't do that, I would put his feet on top of my feet and we would walk together and and that of course ended up, you know, me carrying him and doing the wheelchair and all that. But we, I hope, thing was whatever it took to keep Freddy not just is, you know, quantity of life, but with quality of life where he was enjoying as much of his life. I mean too. I we even had titty Tuesday at the hospital and I had had you'd be surprised at some of the nurses that would even give Freddy a flash or any girls that came up that day to visit him would have to give him a flash. You know, he had a birthday with a stripper. I mean yeah, for his ideath birthday, John Rich and big Kenny hired a stripper to come in days for Freddy for his eightieth birthday, which his sister was in the audience. She was the two pleased about it, but it was a gift and wait and Freddy and Freddie gave her. He get, he got to give the the little girl of Pike and if one eighty times he you could see his whole hand, just to pay on him night there. I mean it was a rock and roll lifestyle they kept. I hate that Cliche, but with him it was really true. They kept a party going and there was always loads of people on the bus and even the middle of that it was remarkable to watch because she would wear these eight hats and do all of these matrix of things to keep all the medical stuff there but yet not let his because you think you know. One of the messages in this book is you know you have a Mummat Ali, you have Michael J Fox, you have Robin Williams who, bless his heart, took his life, you have Freddy and country showing no one else. You really have very few people that have had Parkinson's that have stayed as visible. And the important thing about that is that, you know, even coming all the way up here from Florabama for the nationals, I'm going to release party, there was eight, nine people in that fan, you know, and and and they're the people that were devoted to helping keeping Freddy out. There is also, if you go way back in time, you know she was talking about how engine he was an engineer and a problem solver. That's an important part of his life. But the earlier parts of his life than the life this man lived before this. He built his own airplane on the dock of Merles House boat and then, you know, catheld tell by the Sea of aircraft carrier and they fly up in the air and the first scene in the screenplay. In fact, all let hurt, but it's crazy. But ready would freddy, would you know? First off, they did. He built that airplane up on Merle's dog there on the house boats, and then and he taught himself how to fly and and then he took it off the wheels and put it on Pontoon. So then, once again he was having to learn how to fly, you know, land it on water and stuff. But he would fly around and he would either be looking for Shad, because they knew that if the shared was running, that's where the good fishing was going to be our if he would spot, you know, naked women up there party and they would radio back to Merow and Merl conduck called him stuff the control tower on the ground with the hotel troubador and he would tell him, Merl, I just spotted a bunch of naked women over in Jones Valley cove and Morola. We radio back, I'll meet you Jones...

Valley cove and they would go over there and have this great party. MEAN, but they would go up to Pitt River and spend days at a time in Moroll in a bunch of girls and party. Write songs. I write songs, party and Franks and do a lot of picking. Frank Sinatra cold at one point and invited Merl and Freddy to complain on the White House lawn for raiding. And what are they tone Morel jobs, that we're we're too busy. Yeah, I mean he actually told Frank Sinatra, you know, he was like want a talk about peered and play on the lawn with me at the White House, and Morole just turned to him and he said Freddy and I are just too busy. But they had a party going on and and the whole thing was as moral and all that rat pack. They wanted to be where Freddy and Merl were instead of being on the White House Lot. I think that sounds better. And then, you know, and then if yeah, and then if you get into the s and when they move back to Austin, you know, within a within a few years of think, they move back in ninety four, five and in ninety eight, for is, Freddy had his own day, like in Austin Day, the Freddy Powers Day, and they had a television show that they ran in their living room, the first of its kind ever in that state. It was a songwriters show hosted by songwriters that interviewed songwriters and it was in Catherine Co produced that they shot it with two hundred people in the audience right in their living room. was crazy, right on Willie's golf course. Yeah, we lived in the bill might guy that's home and Freddy and bill might guy that put the rodgers and hemorrhaid show together. And and it was actually a Kabal as nominee and but they would interview songwriters, but they kind of kept it trying to be more like an educational program where they would discuss about how to write a song, what inspired them to write the song and how they would get it produced or how they would get it to an art artist and stuff. So they they kind of kept that, you know, more of it educational top program for other songwriters. They would perform as well, and they had a lot of really legendary songwriters like floyd tim and Johnny Kimball, of course, fiddle player Ray Wiley Hubbard. who were some of the others that you were mentioned the other day? Well, well, of course it was Willie and Andre girl and stay from how Rusty Weir. Actually, the very last shows that Floyd Hillman and, I believe, rusty weird did was the Rogers and hammerhead show. And then, of course, and of course we had stay from hope and I said Ray, Whiley Hubbard, Aaron Barker, Doug Superno we we pretty much had quite a few of the in. They all had to have and the one thing is they all had to have at least, you know, a couple of number ones under their belt in order to be able to get on the show. But we had very Yat bl Verry Gatlin. We he was such a WHO. Larry Gatlin's a big other hate. It was at one point that the clock had chimed and Larry quiet in the room up and he's like I wrote that, which he really didn't hit me. It was just kind of funny how Larry was he. He's really a comic himself. Yeah, studdy Throckmorton is another name I wanted to men. Yeah, in that yes, and Sonny here. Ye, Sonny's remained a dear friend of the family for till now. And but also he's in the he's in the soundtrack, he's in the book. In fact, if you go to the soundtrack, which is a spree hundred eighty three the if the life of times of Freddy powers official books on track on spotify, you can listen to actual performances from the show with people playing and there's there's Willie Nelson and Bobby Nelson in one of them, morals and another big and riches on there. Just the soundtrack is populated with people that pretty played with throughout his career. Mary Sarah, and the other thing that that TV show was was really a door opener for a lot of people. Pauling reese is in the book, talks about it, and others that would come to that show to meet people or to just be in the audience, because it was kind of a networking hot spot as well. And that's true. Rattlesnake Anny,...

...you know there was. They would all, you know, like you said, they would be able to come to the shows and the network with people that were there, and so it was and with the same with the picking parties. We have the we still are having the Freddy Powers Picking parties as still do two of them a year. We have the on the final Sunday of the south by southwest we do the Freddy Power South by South Southwest Picking Party and we have probably about twenty acts that we put on during the day. And then we do New Year's Day, which is the pretty powers Black Ip and cabbage picking party and everybody bring their bay ips and cabbage and will do a little tasting and then listen to a lot of music and we still have a lot of great people that come, like Tanny Tucker still comes. Last year before Alex Harvey passed, he's run and wrote down to dawn for Danny Tucker. He would come, and we've had David Lee, we've had you know, it amazes me how many people still come. And those picking parties, when we first started they was all centered around Freddy. Freddy would sit in the center of the circle and they would be thirty or more musicians circled around him and he would give everybody laids and everybody would take a turn and all that to his final years. The pick and parties became instead of coming in performing with Freddy, to performing Bar Freddy. And so I g said the as long as the Laha Fan and there in Austin had the Freddie Powers Taken Pavilion Trey s the fig and I will keep those picking parties going. And and the other thing about all these things we're talking about is that why we wrote this book, as in oral history, is because Freddy wanted it to be. You know, there's a lot of first person from him, but Catherine was there for all these things. But we also really you really feel like you're in a room of friends when you read this book of it, because you hear from people who were at these events and who tell really funny stories. As a funny story because when, on top of everything else, Freddy was quite a Golfer along with Willie. They would golf together on Willie's course. But also there's these legendary things in Texas called coach Darrell Royal Golf Tournaments and at the after parties with a lot of songwriters attended, along with astronauts and actors and movie stars, and they would all get together afterward and sitting these big circles and play in these picking parties and Matthew mcconaughey showed up one year, Catherine, until you were went from there. We get a real recounting of that from someone who was sitting right there and it was when mcconaughey was first out and daisy confused and the shirtless stuff and all that. What it tell what happened. It's Hey, well, I follow Freddy around. I'll wakend long and it was so funny because they'd be sitting there with their picking their songs and Matthew would be standing of their shirtless, using him his body as the Congos and you know, by the end of the evening the poor little guy's chest would just be beat read from him being the Congos on his to you know. But the you know the picking parties and we, and we still try to keep the coach Joe Royal rules, is when the performers are performing, it is time for you to hush up and if you don't hush up your shown how to hit the door get out. So but you know, it's just, you know, showing the respect to the entertainers and and that was one of the things that was, you know, important to coach. So I keep those rules and I still go buy those rules. Yeah, the fantastic rule pretty had a it's a great rule, but it's also one that Freddy had an edict about in his own picking parties. And the thing that's important, I guess, is him as a mentor to songwriters. Mary Sarah, when he had Parkinson's. One of his last projects. I'll hand this off to Catherine that could. She helped co produce, executive produce it, but it was amazing this gentleman was still giving a foot in the door to people even when he had Parkinson's, and his telling him about this project was amazing. Well, that was something at...

Freddy was. He was really good about trying to open doors for people. He's I've even known him to pull one of his own songs off of an album and replace it with some body else's to, you know, open up a door form. But his final project was producing this album with Mary Sarah, who went on to be on the voice where she is doing duets with actually there's thirteen people on there and she's doing duets with Merl and Willie and Rachel Ray Price. Sorry, Ray Price, Danny Tucker, Dolly, Pardon, LE and Anderson, the Oakridge Boys, that I mean big and rich and pretty, was being tacutive produced on that along with Kent Wells, and that opened a lot of doors for Mary Sarah and is still opening doors far with that album. But his also at his final days, and he is the last song that he wrote was down here on the beach at the floor of Bama. Mark Ryl, who wrote Oh red for Blake Shelton, was doing a songwriting thing with Mary Sarah and he called and he said, you know, why don't you bring Freddy over and he just be in the room and if we get something out of him, would be great. Well, a few days before that we went over there, Freddy knew what was going to happen and I would hear him blurred out stuff, you know, and I would go and ask him what, I'm sorry, didn't catch that, and he would just say I'm just thinking. And so when we got over to the room, as soon as we walked in, Freddy just started rolling out lines and Mary Sarah, the first thing she could find was piper plights and a pan and she started writing these lines down if she could, and when they finished the song. They call me in and fight it for me, and I mean I just it hit me so hard because I realized Freddy had been laying over in that hospital band writing this song and he has head the whole time and so when we walked in that room he was ready and the song is called Draymond. You know, the other thing that's kind of remarkable about, not kind of, certainly remarkable about his Freddy Powers Chords is that in the book for the first time, if you're a music theory nerd guitar player that wants to learn that way or if you want to hear them, there's also a six song acoustic like guitar lesson. EP's the best way to describe it. We on Earth or Freddy sitting there teaching. The actual tape he was teaching is Rogers and hammerhead partner Bill mcdavid had a play guitar with and he calls out chords and means he had a very unique, very acknowledged within country. Frank Idellas one of the interviews in Book Merinda Lambert's long time producer, he just referred to it and another interview for another book and I said, who tell me about that? And he got into an explanasition of just growing up how learning guitar in Texas. He said You couldn't learn guitar and texist without learning the Freddy Powers Chords. They were a signature thing there. So his influence as a guitar player. Willie Nelson called him probably. What did she say? Catherine's one, one of the two or three best guitar players that he's ever worked with. A Merle Merle, yeah, one of the top two or three, hy them best get rhythm guitar players in country. And so we really hope that this book, in this project, along with the upcoming film, with the actors that are going to play him and Merole and Willie and Paul was Kirk and these others, you mean, amazing cast and thing, are all going to be real musicians who can really play the stuff. So it shows you the complexity of his musical mind along with that of his songwriting mind, along with that of his entertaining comedic mind, along with that of his business mind. He reinvented himself so many times through so many different decades successfully, not just in a sort of token novelty capacity, that that you know he's you know when he passed away, rolling stone had run an obituary and I emailed the guy that wrote the story and begged him to do a follow up so that we could promote the book. And what brought that around? Talk about his song catalog. John DOE from X, which is one of the most legendary Los Angeles punk bands ever,...

...and another gentleman did a cover, was it, of Hey hey's, Carl Hey's call and yeah, and and they did always get like it would you and it's kind of almost like gay punk country type version of it. Having it, it's really good. A gool. Yeah, it's like it's like when Johnny cash and Rick Rubin linked up for those American recordings, kind of in the sensitive but it shows you how Freddie's song stand the test of time and no matter what John were, you're in there. He's got fans across all of these different genres and even some of the people in the book to that we talked to, like Lucas Susa is an example. We wanted someone who's now coming up that came out of these picking parties in just the last few years and he was one and he said I wouldn't have out in my shop. I'm now a regional touring act and making the way up without Freddy and Catherine and those in those picking parties. And there's a four year four or five or six year old girl at some point in the book in the s who had a picture of Freddy on her wall. Fair Catherine can tell you the story, but he had fans that all ages. Yeah, yeah, that was Lauren Beller and actually Lauren Bell or when we bat her she was like five years old and she was and we got this video of her and at the time she was only like three years old. And this video and she's doing that song. Texas is a pair of Blue Eyes Down in Texas you know, and it was so cute because she's rolling all over the couch and everything, playing with her doll. But she never missed a single note in that song and she performed that Song. And so the first time we would go to meet her, we're setting there talking with her parents and everything and all this sudden Laura Belo Grabs Freddy by the hand and says, Freddy, will you go to my bedroom with me, which we all got laughed and the bedroom and we walk in there and she's got two pictures that hung over her bed. One was Floyd Tillman and the other was Freddy and but you know he worked with Lauren and she's now a professor to you know, of music actually here in Alabama, and so you know Freddy. It didn't matter if they had music in their herder and their bloods. Freddy would help them work through it. And I and they was especially with the girls. The first thing you would always tell them is that you got to learn to play guitar. If you don't, you're going to be a slave to the band instead of the band playing for you. So he's always was a good teacher and trying to do things like that with, you know, the up and kind and then with his song catalog to talk about its reverberations overseas. You know they were taking him to Europe as recent as two thousand and ten. He Pass in two thousand and sixteen. He played the Apple Blues Festival in two thousand and eight and two thousand and ten, and Catherine can tell you both about the selling out part but also this remarkable story where even within his shaking he was still singing and the audience and the band were hoping to hold him up and I'll let her tell us. She was there. It was a it's a really moving to well, they it was like they you know, you got started into the show and about midway through with the Parkinsons, you start shaking and swaying and you could slide out of your chair. And so they had and they had made this beautiful chair for Freddy to set up on. It look like he was at a King, you know, King of the Worlds, and upon this big chair, and he started sliding out of it and so they just stopped the show and everybody they took off their belts and they actually went and tied Freddy, you know, belted Freddy into this chair and he went on and perform the show and which, of course, the audience just went crazy over it. And watching them, they line dance to everything. And watch the line dance to looking for a place to fall apart, which is one of the slowest songs. You could come up with beline dancing too, but they did and and it was funny because they they couldn't speak the language, you know, they don't speak English, but they could follow along and they could sing those songs gripped with Freddy Work for for word, you know. And there was actually one time...

I got out in the middle of that with them and as they're singing with Freddy in the words, I'm panamizing or you know what it would it's like doing charades and telling them what the the song that they were actually singing, you know, but they knew the words. They couldn't speak English, but they knew the words to the songs. Yeah, and at the end of the show, I think of one of them, didn't he tell the promoter? Tell you it was like the boy. Yeah, the promoter came up to me and I mean he just big guy and they just looked down at him. was almost I get tears in his eyes when he said first time, and I love, you know, the way they speak, and he goes first time I ever sold out and I just thought, God, that was so special. But and that was also you know, when we would go it was like you would take the band will you would have to like two stars and the band would play for both. So, though, that very last to her that we did. Freddy took a mean Nelson, which is Willie Nelson's daughter, and so it was Freddy powers and then amy and it was so funny because the newspaper said Billy D Willie and when they introduced I mean Nelson, you know, the daughter of Willie Nelson, but they said Philly d willie. And you know, they had a cruise to when he got when he got diagnosed with the illness. They've been doing. Freddy wrote the even years before this they were involved Ford. He was heavily involding charity and Catherine. They wrote the he wrote the everybody deserves a chance to win. Now what's everybody has a chance to win. Everybody has a chance to win and it's for them, the bad at Special Olympics. We were very involved in the Special Olympics. We did all of their school dances. We would take the band and go to their schools. We had bowling tournaments with them, with ski tournaments, we did everything. Every weekend we were somehow involved with the Special Olympics out there in Nevada. Yeah, and then when he got Parkinson's, they formed their own Parkinson's foundation and Freddy would have you know everything from golf tournaments with with she cather con tell you, but it was a remarkable thing they did. Even you know, they had a cruise a Freddy Cours Parkinson's crews and Al was really surprised at all of the musicians. Matter of fact, the guy who owns Don's depot dawn there and Austin. He came to the on the cruise with us and he did a show. Matter of fact, Freddy and I celebrated our fifty wedding anniversary there Don's depot in Austin. I'm s is dawn's depot even still there? It is, it is. Yeah, that's one of a yeah, it's still great. Yes, it is. I love that place. That's a great spot. I definitely appreciate the line dancing story as someone who used to frequent a line dancing bar out in Miami of all places. But yeah, that was always good. Yeah, I'm like, I'm like going through my list that I had I prep before him, but I feel like you, Huh, you tough. You've got to cover it into everything. I guess maybe Catherine View my just going way back to the beginning of how you tracked all these people down to participate in this book. was that a process or where are you just like a fantastic detective? Yeah, it really was, and but facebook, you know, you know, it's kind of funny. Freddy had a name and he had a reputation, but when the Internet came out, Oh my God, it was it just changed the world, you know, and so of us. I can get on facebook and I'd be saying, Hey, we're doing this whatever, and the next thing I know I would have these people coming in out of the woodworks. Matter of fact, I just talked to two more people that worked with Freddy back in the s that I really wished we had could have found before, you know, and Adam a part of the book. But you know, facebook it was. It made it a lot easier. But yeah, it was a lot of work tracking down a lot of people and getting phone numbers and finding ways to...

...contact them and stuff. But yeah, I'm had a great time doing it. Yeah, we did quite a bit of it. We did quite a bit of it together with Freddy when he was still alive, and that was part of the fun, as whether we went to see Marl Haggard and spend a long morning with him on Sunday, Freddy, Catherine, myself and our friend joy really and then really, you know, talking to us on Christmas Day, Miss Day. Yeah, well, we took out time from his probably the of all the people. That guy doesn't want to talk to any you know, on a one holiday like that, but he cared enough about Freddy to take out time. And you know, John Rich and then Kenny was a late it wasn't deliberate, but just with the scheduling. There's people to like Tanny Tucker to her forward. That was from the original this book didn't really for the four years that sixteen to twenty. It really was reinvented because we rewrote it around the screenplay from the original draft of it that never really got published, and so we really re and we reshook it up and completely restructured it and and basically told it from the point of view of his life story as you would see it cinematically or say, as I like to say, in d because we had the musical components there now and and this gentleman Milton quackenbush go milton provided us with these amazing soundboard tapes from these Reno and Vegas show and gave us permission a very talented painter, I'd like to acknowledge him because he's passed away, named Robert Hurst, who paints all of the induction portraits for the Texas Heritage Songwriters Association. That, yeah, how the thing? Yes, Freddy, by the way, was the first, along with Chris Christopherson, inductees and to that hall of fame. gave us like gave us an okay to use that and we not only use it on the album cover, but then we ran ads as we wanted to. We have a hundred twenty color photo pages in this book and there's about fifty new pages of photos, but one of them is this beautiful portrait. You really see, you just get to see the reverence that this guy generated. And there's actually also before we go one thing. I would also tell you to put a cap on Freddy's humor. He requested he be roasted at his funeral and we with the roast or see highlights from the roast without parsing words, I mean in the in the end of the book. So you live with this guy from the from the West Plains Texas, birth all the way in growing up there, in his day years in the Marines. He was in the Marines for years. His Willie Nelson and Hims beginning their lifelong friendship, him and Merles lifelong friendship, all of his successes and you end it with this really great send off the Catherine and tell you about he wanted to be wrote. Freddy said. You know what it was after Floyd Tillman, when Floyd Tillman have passed away, it really bothered Freddy because there was not this no major acknowledgement of Floyd Hillman. You know, there on wasn't much in any newspapers, that wouldn't much on any of the radio, which was really surprising. So when Floyd had passed, and that really bothered Freddy and he was like, Mama, when I go, don't you know, I don't want to be forgotten. These said, but I don't want people standing up there, you know, crying and talking about how great I am, because I already know that. So that's when he did. I know he said I already know that I'm great. But so he said, I want you to roast me. And we'd roasted pretty on his seventh birthday, had a humongous roast with Willie and Merle and coach royal and just you know major, you know study throug Martin. And so Freddy said he wanted us to roast him and he said and he even said he goes if they don't know any good stories about me, tell him to make what up, because they're probably be some truth in it, but they're really and yeah, they're all real. And we actually did roast Freddie, matter of fact, after we did the Marines, you know, ceremony where they did the flags and the twenty one guns salute and all that stuff that I actually said. You know. Okay, now we're going to roast Freddy. If there's anybody in here that's...

...got tender ears and you don't want to hear some profanity and etc. This would be a good time to leave the room, because we literally roasted Freddy big time. Lest lit him up and one of the I is it bow, because you always give me shift. Is this? which bow is it? Well, Roberts, Roberts, both Roberts, without giving the story away, gives one of you Roberts actually vote. He wrote that song for Willie. See what is it when I'm gonna get it mixed up. It went to bed at Tien with yeah, went to bad at ten with the to. Know W you band it too, with the Tian, and woke up a tien with a to. So he tells a story that that particularly amusing because Freddy needed assistance to get into the bathroom, not to use the bathroom, and him and Bou or alone on the bus. Book. Catherine was order, but that's bout the bull quarter, bout porter. They're sitting there and both says he's telling Freddy what a hero he is to him and all this and what an inspiration he's been. Another example. And Freddy said, I got to use the restroom. So Bo says, well, by God, let's get it done, you know. So we picks him up and helps carry over the bathroom and get some situated and some things go on, you can read in the roast. And when it's done he gets him out of the bathroom and he says, what do you think of your hero now, son? You know. So he he just pressing humor were so it was so self effacing as much as it was anything else, and that's part of another reason why I think he hung around so long. When Merle haggard could have hung out with anybody, you know what I mean. For for I mean Willie could. These guys loved being around Freddy, almost to the point, Catherine, until you where they no one outshined each other. But he held his own in any capacity that he was socializing with the playing dead jokes. He was a life of the party a lot of the time and even once, even one had I met them. I mean we of the nine years of that book, The for that Freddy was alive, and really the three that he could communicate that we worked on. They were three of the funnest I've ever spent on fifty books or and on a book. I mean I wrote a book with Lemmy killmeister. You don't get motor head. That's you know, but Freddy was like, you know, really really just the most fun both of these two, but Fred you know, we so we really we made promises to him then talk with him about his final dreams for the book and the hopefully the film. Here and and that. You know, it hasn't been for lack of interest. We're now talking to our third set of potential producers. We had funding before covid and lost it and we had almost a lead guy really telling an actor we can't talk about because if he had to take a pass with covid. But so we really with this book release for reinventing a little bit of our plan now with a much stronger product to shop around, because this is such a if you look at the back of the book, it just I mean you go down the list here from whether it's rolling stone, CMT, the Austin Chronicle Billboard, Merrel Hackard, Willie Nelson, taste of country, Frank La don't rattlesnake any John Rich, big Kenny, Larry Gatlin, Tanny sucker. That's just quotes and blurbs about him. So we want people, if anything else, we want at the end of the end of the book, when you close it, we want you to be not only aware of him but really aware of how much of an influence he had over country music and over just at the inspiration and in the inspiration that he ended up being because of the Parkinson's and and the generosity was with his time. And so yeah, there's just Freddie had he had had more than just a music history. I made to the point to where even Freddy was an engineer that made our own electricity. We lived up in the mountains and off the grid, and this we were living off the grid before, you know, it was popular early and and and so Freddy was, you know, he built as own electrical plant and in a refrigerator, doubledoor refrigerator that he buried on the back and in the ground. And and so you know, Freddy was just more than just a musician. He was an inspiration, he was a problem solvereigy, he was an engineer,...

...he was a producer, writer. Yeah, did, they'll let you know. It's just that it just was amazing man, and I'd would tell you that I missed that man so much, so much. I'm mean to see him and I just got hit with a host arm and I'm trying to figure out how to do all this by myself, but I'm like, where is my Freddy? He would have had this figure out for us. Yeah, and and, and that's important to is there. Go to sound Nerdy, but there was a responsibility I felt with this book more than really any other than probably Joe Satriani's, because that was such a huge privilege and heart to work with them. I would count Freddy the other project where you just felt the weight of it and you and Catherine and I had I remember we had a phone call in the winner at two thousand and seventeen and she was like Uh Huh, because I was telling her what I want. I think we can do this. So we can get that going and at but we really in two thousand and eighteen we started, we had a legal situation that got resolved and we had all of our rights back fully, and that's another thing that's important to me. Freddy wanted this book to and project to provide and we now own a hundred percent of the rights this. We got a major, Major Baker and Taylor's huge retail distributor that took the project on. An SCB as our distributor for the EBOOK. MVD Is our distributor for the soundtrack. These are all major companies that got involved in this project and and so whether you want to Ebook, you want to read along while you, excuse me, listen along while you read, any way you want to get it Freddy, whether you want to hear him, whether you want to read them, whether you want to listen to him, whatever it is, you have access. Now we have a youtube channel. I said viewing because we've got all these great videos up there. Lead on him, on Ralph Emery, him at the Austin city limits in his own headlining, show him at which is huge. That's not easy to do. Him got back in the s plan with his zoot suit and Banjo during the heyday, and Reno Catherine unearthed all these recordings from forty five back in the s when we created the soundtrack that had never been heard before. So there's so many different ways you can look at Freddy's life now and get a really full view of how influential and exciting it was. Just so many fantastic starts. I feel like we could talk all night about it. Thinks you're so much to cover, but if we're let's give let's give everyone listening just a little bit of homework. If you can distill it down into the top three Freddy power songs. That's always get like it with you natural high look at for our place to fall apart, chase each other round the room, bringing California, you know, there's there's so many of them. Yes, and he even actually has some kind city. Did we wrote with a big and rich you know. So he'll over that this Jedi Medley and yeah, and you can hear it all on the soundtrack, the official book soundtrack on spotify as well. Freddy powers, life and Times of Freddy Prize, the spree of Aty three official book soundtrack and our Youtube Channel. You could boil it down to to to like fifty two songs and that's just perfect ampling. Fifty years, fifty yeah, one for every week of the year. I like it. I like this guy was so prolific. He was such a talented. Talent just came out of this dude endlessly. It was amazing to be around watching, you know, be part of. People want to pick up a copy of the bike at they want to have their own picking Party and that they're picking it up. Yeah, Barnes and noble, Amazon, Kendall, it's you can read it by Ebook. If I mean so many of the kids now with the phones and everybody powers dotnet in the spree of eighty three bookcom. Yes, you can order it from Freddy Powers DOTNET and Catherine will sign in personally, maybe sign one to you never know. Will sign it, but personally inscribe it for Freddy if it's if you have a fan or someone that you want to give it to a Christmas present. The book will be around now for years to come and different formats and then the film, and so we're excited to keep his name going and that's what he wanted. So absolutely doing a fantastic job. Catherine and Jake. Thank you so much. This was awesome. Thanks for having a wonderful stuff. And let's end with a Corny joke, like like we always do on the shatter department, with no well,...

...yeah, let's hear it. Let's hear your best one first and then I I'll tell you what. Yeah, well, now my favorite one is, do you know? Want pay a rabbit hit his eggs? HMM, because he didn't know any anybody know? He's making it with the chicken. All Right, Jack, what do you have? What's your corner? Jeff, I don't even know where to begin. I'm going to defer to Freddy on the jokes man. I've yeah, and none of the ones that I could tell would, I mean, I go. I'm so bad at jokes. I'd have to think of like OJ jokes from the S or something. You know, none of them are very funny. Freddy was such a master comedian. You can you can get them from then. You can get them right on Youtube. He sitting there telling them right now. If you want to go look at it. Boom. Well, I always like ending with a corny jokes. I might need to go borrow some. I was going to tell Y'all a joke about the Staccato, but never mind. It's too short. Good after today people, good people cool things is produced in Austin, Texas. If you were a fan of this episode, go ahead and hit that follow button. That helps more people here with the show. As always, you can send me a message Joey at good people, cool thingscom. Thank you to all of the guests who have been on good people cool things. Can check out all the old episodes via good people, cool thingscom. As always, thank you for listening and have a wonderful day.

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