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Good People, Cool Things

Episode 17 · 1 year ago

Guitar Lessons and Nightmare Gigs with Lance Ruby

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Guitar player and educator Lance Ruby joins the podcast to talk about music in a time of social distancing, great guitarists, album art, and some of the worst gigs he's ever played.

Welcome the good people cool things,the PODCAST, featuring conversations with entrepreneurs, writers musiciansand other creatives. I'm your host Jowe held Antoday's guest is Lance Ruby, amusician and guitar teacher who has really been making the most of all ofthis social distancing. Lance offers virtual guitar lessons he's toured witha lot of great bands, and so he has some fantastic stories were also divinginto top guitar players to check out and if you've ever wanted to learn howto play Guitar Atlance, it's got your back. I mean he's here. He's got lotsof good advice and tips for you to check out and if you don't have likesome new musicians to listen to by the end of the show, you got to go back andlisten because Lanceis just dropping all this knowledge on us and you dowell to check everything out. If you want to get in touch with good people,cool things you can do so in a couple different ways: twitter and Facebook,at G, pct, podcast and via email, joey at good people, Cool Thingscom, you olsjust check out the good people, cool things tacom website. There's a beautiful little contact formin there. It's next to a smiling picture of me, but I'm smelling a lotof times, including right now their conversation with lands. Let's start, I think this should be aneasy one for you. But can you give us a just a quick scoop on all of yourprojects because it seems like you're up to quite a lot lately yeah I have. Ihave a ton of stuff. I love working with multiple projects and I've sort oftaken that almost too far you can say but yeah. Somy main creative project right now is is a rock band com, musketeer grip,weed and I'm also in a band called Grahm goodand the painters, which is an awesome group, and I tour a lot with variouscountry artists. But my main gig lately has been an awesomecountry, singer named Bodapena and, let's see yeah, I think for right. Now, that's all thegroups I'm in I could have bee oh and I'm also in a IM in a new orleans, Funk band, comedcrescent city connection, fantastic and you're. Also teaching. Asof all this, too yeah yeah- and that's really- I mean, during this kind ofcrazy quarantine time- that's really what's been. Keeping me afloat is thatyou know my life previous to the quorantine was like I taught all weekand then on the weekends I gigged every weekend. So basically, my weekends arenow fully free and fii still super busy fantastic. Have you partaken in any ofthe virtual concert, performances that have kind ofbeen taken over the Internet over the past few months? Yes, yeah really earlyon. I did one with my band musketeer grip weed and I did one with Grahamgood and the painters, and then I did one just so low and so they've been alot of fun. They're, definitely not the same feeling as Playn live. It'sdefinitely a a different scenario, but they're sol fun, yeah and it's, I think it's fun to see just kind ofpeople's home studios during this or if they do go out and about. I rememberseeing bar naked ladies doing one that was one of them was out on, like a frozenlake at was up kind of on a mountain and just a very Canadian type of funvirtual concert there, though I imagine that be very cold and probably probablya good hint that maybe that's not live, because I I would expect a lot of wind if you're,on top of a frozen like in the middle of winter yeah yeah. I definitely havedone all of mine from the comfort of my own house Wi. You know I'm not goingout on any frozen likes anytime soon, it's probably for the best it seems Iseems a little more ambitious than I think we need to be, but good for the bird naked. Ladies,I'm glad they're, I'm glad they're doing stuff. Yes, it's also yeah. It's also kind ofbeen a nice way to be like. Oh they, like these bands that I, like I listenthe bare naked ladies growing up. I'm glad they're still kicking it. I knowthey've lost one of their original members, but hey you know what stillmaking music still making people happy. That's I can ask for yeah and- andthat's been a very interesting thing even for me, like I'm pretty in theknow, about a lot of music, especially in my area, but you know hearinghearing people that, maybe just because of my gigging schedule, I haven't had achance to go, see them do their lives thing. It's been really awesome to seeother musicians, especially, like you say, like in their home studios intheir environment, where they're really comfortable. You know I always say that I play waybetter in my in my bedroom than I do on...

...stage. So now I get a chance to see likeeverybody play in their bedroom, which is kind of fun. Oh that's fantastic! I would agree withthat, but I at least try to make up for anonsage by running around a lot. Hopefully, people aren't listening. IfI you know, if I mess up hereor there good deal so going way back first timeyou picked up a guitar. Do you remember the first thing that you played, I meanI'm sure it was probably kind of just learning cords, but do you remember thefirst song where you're like? Oh, I feel comfortable playing this and thenyet you got through it. Yes, I do. This is a very question. I the first thing Iever learned on the guitar was ACDC's Ain't, no noise pollution O and that's and and then I proceeded tolearn that whole album the back in black album. That was my first likething I did on the guitar was I learned, all the songs and then a little later Ilearned all the Solos and yeah yeah. was there a particular reason for that,or was it just like I like this? I want to learn how to play it. Well, when I was a kid like you know, I don'tknow why I D N T- I don't know when itunes or any of those things kind ofcame out, but my I grew up in a really small town, a really Rual town in Utah,and basically the only way I could get cdor Yeh CDs was like in my mom's grocery shopping trip tolike big her to buy me ACD from Aa, and I just remember back in black wasthe first CD I ever bought and I just fully fell in love with it. I thoughtthe guitar was so cool. I thought angish young was so cool later Ithought Malcolmmian was so cool and yeah. I was just super inspired by thatalbum when I was a kid and it was just like everything I listened to it everyday. I thought it was so awesome. So when I finally got a guitar those werethat was the stuff I wanted to learn. That's awesome. I sometimes I miss the days of CDs, likeit's great, to discover all this new music nowadays that I probably wouldn'thave otherwise but there's just like no better feeling ofthe first time you opend up a CD and like looking at the liner notes, seeingthe artwork yeah it wousd be so disappointed if it was just like ageneric like gray disk, with like the real, tiny font of like oh here's, whatyou're listening to omon well and two things like. I really missthe CD days because, like I said, like I listen to black and black like I canstill sing all the lyrics, I can sing all the Salos. I can probably stillplay a lot of the sellars to and a lot of the songs, but, like I just I dove deep into that album-and I see it a lot with my students nowadays like they'll, find somethingcool on Youtube and they'll check it out for that afternoon, and then theynever revisit it again or if they do it's like they're, trying to find newstuff. You know yeah, like back in the CD days. I feel like a part of mydevelopment as a guitar player was only having three or four CDs and justwearing them out and just really diving deep into those records. Yeah, that's a terrific point and it's I mean I youtube, doesn't make iteasy with the related videos coming up and then you're. You know twentyminutes later, you're down a completely different rabbit, hole exactly yeah andsometimes don't even know how to get back to where you were yeah. I meanit's. I remember like one night I just decided to log my Youtube Rabbit Hole,O andit's, a dangerous cam yeah. If anybody else had this problem, we'retalking about just conduct, this experiment right down like the firstMiteyooul start with, and then just let yourself naturally like go where youwant and then write down like the last video you'v got to and it's astonishing. So do you remember where you startedand ended when you did this yeah, so I started out listening to the the leads Zuppland BBC sessions,which are awesome, and I listen to them all the time and I ended up on earwax removal videos. I don't know why the Algorithm wantedme to see those, but I remember I clicked on one of the videos- and Iwatched a second of it and I was like I've had enough internet today. This isgood, it's Nice, when you know that you havethat moment where it's just like Yep Internet, we're done for the day, yeahwe're pulling that you break we're done here. I will say I don't know if you've ever listened tothis. I am a huge fan of this. I think...

...most people tend to not be when I shareit with them, but way back in the day, pattent Oswaldtweeted about the chipmunks Christmas Song slowed down, Oh yeah, so yeah. Soit's just I mean it sounds like a bunch of drunk teenagers. Dave sounds likethe SPANOF Satan. It's very delightful, but still like really good harmonies,like those tripmonks, have good harmonies yeah and for whatever reason, the relatedvideos that pop up for that are just like all over the map, but also wildlyentertaining so youtubes like you know what this isjust weird enough, but in a different way that you're going to like it andYoav, it's been pretty spot ot, that's, oh one. More thing I wanted tosay about CD is sorry to sorry to left. Hurn like that, but yeah, like you said the artwork like Iremember, I discovered like iron maiden just because, like that, robe in Walbart just had the coolestart and you know, otherwise nobody was going to tell me to go check out ironmaiden. You know, and one more thing is that Walmart I don't know if this was thecase everywhere, but Utah is a very conservative place so, like the a lot of CPS like if the cover wasway to risque, they would have like alternate covers for them an yeah. I remember in high schoolthere was a new band that came out and I remember seeing their music video onyoutube and thinking. It was like pretty cool and I wanted to go by theCV and it was a band culled. Wolf, mother, I don't know if you rememberthem, I do. I don't know if I could name anyother songs, but I do remember them yeah. So I remember I went down toWalmart and they had like one copy of the wolf mother CD and I was sodisappointed because it was just black and it just said Wolf mother like intheir fot- and I was like Oh man, but you know this ban was kind of cool theykind of Sandud. Like leds Zepplin, I was a huge led, Zepplin Fan, so I waslike I'm going to go home and check this out and then, as soon as I open itup, I realized that there's the coveris just a thin piece of paper and you pullthat off and it's this like awesome oil painting of like this naked womanriding and octopus, and I was like yeah. This is yeah. Thisis awesome. That's amazing that they went to thetrouble to. I know ock it out, but it was like. It was like the bestway to resolve that situation. I was so bummed out about their album cover andthen it turns out. It was exactly what the thirteen year old may wanted. That's that's fantastic! I'm also a big fan of just liner notes,Oh yeah of like especially, if they're kind of I mean obviously like you getthe lyrics, but if they're kind of fun to like, as I feel like, INM bside or acombilation albums you'd get this a decent amount where they're. Just like.Oh Yeah, we wrote this song whent like I went skateboarding and like broke myleg and then wrote the song while I was in the emergency room, getting surgerydone. I s like what that's so awesome. I mean, in my opinion, the best linernotes that exist are on every single frangap album like that. Dude just wrote the best, lighternotes for everything and they made zero sense, and I don't remember any of them.I can't like recite any of them, but I can tell you that if you want a greattime just go by like Zappa vityls and read the liner notes- and you know he had a great time doingthis- Oh yeah yeah- I remember like specm. Okay- maybe I remember onespecifically just because it jumped out to me but like there's, the the albumshut up and player guitar, which is awesome in the in the liner notes. He'sexplaining that, like no record label wants to carry his albumsanymore, but he wants to do ma. He started his own record label and howhe's going to do it is by like mail order records so like if you want the new frenxaplalbum. You have to like fill this thing out and send it back to him and just how he's like describing the hideous monsters that are therecord companies is, is awesome. That's so good! I I remember weird all album that I had that. Had it just like a really long last track-and I I think this this must have been hisrunning with scissors album. Okay, I was junior high for me, I think and IMEthat's the perfect age for weird out. Isn't it like, oh for sure, yeah it was. This was like before the timewhen you could just easily look up...

...lyrics on the Internet and it was. Hehas a song on the end of that album called Albuquerque. That's like a noeleven and a half minute song about how he goes to Albaquerque and I won'tspoil it for anyone that hasn't listened, but it's quite the adventureso me checking it at, but the the liner notes for it. He starts writing thelyrics and he gets like eight lines into the song and then it's like youknow what like we're going to run out of room herey. You know, I probablyshould have thought this out better and added another piece of paper usesmaller fun or something, but I guess you're you're just going to have tolisten really carefully and try figure everything out. That's awesome, yeah and I mean it's kind of a sadthing that sort of all that is lost now. You know, like I remember when I was akid like you know like what I was talking about before it was back inblack, like I quickly learned all the guys names in ACDC, you know yeah, Iknew what they look like and now, if I find a new band on spotify orwhatever, I have no idea the names of the guys in the band, I know you know and then I'm looking at the album artin like a thumbnail, yeah, oit's tiny, and you know it. I just remember that beinga thing that, if you're a fan of music, that's the stuff, that's that's like h,the stuff you get nerdy about. You know, Oh for sure, and then I like to playthe game sometimes to especially with newer artists that I don't I'm not asfamiliar with of because you kind of picture what someone looks like basedon how they sound and then going to the music video and watching it, and it'slike. Oh No, I west way off here, yeah yeah. I'm definitely played that game acouple times and then either either been happy or very discipline. Do you have an example of being verydisappointed? Oh Man, I remember like this is so old. I don't know if anybody willremember this, but itunes used to give away free songs like they would havelike a free song of the month or something like that and Thi. This went on for a while,maybe like two years, and I found this band called like silver fin or SilverFang, something like that and they were like. You know they were just exactly what Iwas listening to. They were like ACDC, lead Zepplin, that type of band likekind of a classic Rock Fan, and I I clicked. I found a music video onyoutube and I was just like what like bu the dudes in the band were likethe the dazzle jeans. It was like very H, I'm pretty sure there was like a lotof eyeliner. It was very strange. Oh and the same thing, probably thebiggest disappointment I had was my chemical romance. I know that'sprobably the opposite for everybody, but I heard the Tun teenagers and ifyou just hear that song, it just sounds like a gutsy. Like Blues Rock tune- andI was obviously super into that stuff and then I click on the video andthey're like all goff and emoed up- they have like facepaint on you know.That was a very disappointing time for fifteen year old lits. I remember I don't know if you got fuse TV, Ohyeah, yeah, formally much music and I feel like my cumpofe romance was like come on the up and up when I wasmost watching that so I feel like my first exposure to them was via video,but I definitely get how if you hear them first, it's like you have you havean idea in your mind, especially with teenagers. I would say some of the R other songs,I'm like that's exactly how I would expect them yeah to look and act, and Iwas like you know, just checking out like the lood Zepplin disography andlike Black Sabbeth. Those were the bands I loved and then, when I heardteenagers on the radio I was like. Oh awesome. This band is kind of doingthat and then, when I heardnie you know so I listen to the SOG. In the radio-and I was like this is awesome- and I remember like hearing the DJ say thatnamed by Kemmoca Romance and then like later that night getting on my mom'sold, like you know, off white pc like typing it in and then just seeing this,like you know, Emo, you know, like everybody knows whatthey look like. So I was just like. Oh Man, I was hoping that they would, likeyou, know, look like Lit Zepplin or whatever, and then you get a band like. I don'tknow why I was on this music video the other day, but dragon force flames,true classic, where everything about that music video is a hundred percent.What I would expect yeah an I do and...

Nerdy dudes with long hair. That'sexactly what that ban is, is like ever chair length down to the back. I thinkduring there's like a guitar solo off between the two guitarist and one ofthem', just like chugging a beer while the other ones plan. Yes yeah. Iremember I remember thinking that video was so cool, especially because thatcame out like right around this time. I started playing guitar, so obviously Icouldn't play any of that stuff because it is super hard, but I yeah I yeah that guy's named SamTopin by the way, that's how Nurdi I got about Thato, Nice, Tut, yeah, SamTotman is playing an Ivanez iceman and he's drinking a beer like middle of itsowe an that's so cool, and nowadays, if I, if I were to trythat I just either the guitar would fall somehow orthe beer would get knocked over ond to pick it up and kick it over and Oh yeah everything it's shortet out,I've spilt, so many beers on pedal bods. It's not even funny at least you're doing it it's the worstwhen someone else knocks into it and they're. Just like you're like come onman, Oh yeah yeah, and that definitely happens. I always love epecially whenyou're playing one of these stages. That is not high enough, like in mymind, a proper like if you're playing a festival, the stage should be aboutshoulder likes to the average human. You know what I mean and when you, when you have, when you'replaying on a stage like in a bar or something that's like table heights andpeople immediately decide to set their drinks on the stage because it's table hype, that's like the most annoying thing, there's so many tables here you can.You can't go to a table this. This is this is one stage with ninety tablesand all of those tables will work for your drink. This one particular tablehype thing does not work for your drink. Well, this might segue nicely because Ialways ask I always enjoy asking musicians this, but w a what's theworst gig that you've ever played. Oh Man, there are so many everyone is worse than the last yeah. Imean okay, Shoi'll give you two, because I got pretty bad, so I w when Iwas really just starting out like I was getting my Undergrad degree in music inUtah, and I got a email out of the blue. That said, Hey I im booking music at the Sushirestaurant near you, we waren't live jazz and I was studying Jazzz at thetime. So I was like cool and I remember I go there. I set up. It was like meand another. It was like a duo gig. So just two of us and we play the first song and themanager comes up to us and he does not speak English, but I can tell he'sdisappointed in and then you know, I don't know what hewants differently. So we play the next song and then the manager comes backwith young girl and Sheis now translatingfor him that they want happy jazz and we are playing sad jazz and I just remember like we played likean hours worth of, like you know, Jazz Sons and major keys, and then we still had like an hour anda half left to go of the GIG, and I was like eall. The other tunes Iknow are in minor key: Did we just got to suck it up? They're not going to be happy, so thatwas bad anytime, like somebody hires you especially for an events and theydon't like the music you're playing. That is a rough gig yeah, especially ifthey did not tell you like. If that guy had said, we Weren Happy Jazzz, whichyou know what does that even mean? But if they had said we want happy jazz,then I could have like put together set list of happy jazz orwhatever some of the worst gigging experiencesis like. I got hired for a thing and they want something way different and then the the other I mean when I first started touring. I remember what my friends and I fromwho are in this band. We called this the Tor from Hell, because everythingthat could go wron did so like we go to the first gig right.It was a Colorado base band and our first gig was in South Dakota and we goto South Dakota and that night halfway through our set the stage collapses onus. Oh no like they had like a rinky...

...dink like aluminum like piece togetherstage and it fell, and then we were just like okay, we'regoing to let the place fix the stage for us and then we'll play the rest ofthis set and they decided to fix it with like milk cartons. They just gotlike a bunch of milk cartons and stacked them on top of each other, andthose were the support system for the stage seems safe him, Ta Yeah totally safe.So then that happened and then on the way to the next Gig our van broke down.Specifically, we lost the break pump, so the brakes did not work, so that'shorrifying and then we ended up renting a ANACV,because there was no way our van was going to be fixed in time and we cut tothe next gig like an hour late because of the rental process. Also, we didn'trealize that the time changed from South Dakota to the other side of SouthDakota and it's one of those states yeah. Wedid not realize that. So we were, we were late to the GIG and we ended upplaying and it was great because it really felt like we had overcome quitea bit to get to that Gig so that Gig felt awesome but yeah just everythingthat could go wrong on that little run did. But hopefully you came out stronger onthe other side, yeah yeah. Definitely I I started touring way differently. I realized, if you show up to thebandleaders house, and he starts telling you about like the great dealhe got on the band. It's probably not going to go great ohone. Other hidden feature of thatstory is that he didn't have enough chairs in the vanfor all of us to sit down, and so he was like. Oh, I have the chairs outback. Let me go grab Hem and he grabbed hairs and they were chairs from adifferent vehicle. So they didn't like lock into play. Oh so he just like got like. I forgot. Ivorgot all the things we did, but I remember like tying them down. There was a rock involved to try andlike hold the seat down, but like every time you moved that the chair wouldbasically fall over, so that was that was a fun time, yeah that seems real, secure, yeah.That was a great situation. I can tell you that since then, like that thetouring situation is got just better and better each time, but yeah. Thosefirst couple runs with like random. Different groups was pretty scary. Do you have a go to snack or meal that you do just about every tour? Does it kindof depend on where you are? Yes, I do and I get I get crap for it everysingle time, because so I I'm SILLIAC disease. Ican't have Gluto so my go to is. I always have this little red cooler andI have a loaf of gluefree bread, a jar of peanut butter and then, like all the slim gyms and like meatsticks,that are like on sale at the grocery store. F The day before I leave. So my cooler is just full of like bread,peanut butter and, like a billion slim gyms, well, randy, machoman savage. would bevery proud of you, yeah dude snap, into a slim gym. That's that's! That's whatI'm about. Do you also bring them up on stage? Ifeel like that, would be kind of a nice stage presence there snapping a slimgem, tossed the other half into the crowd get into the first song. I neverthought about that, but that's awesome. I definitely. I definitely have ateslim gyms like during the set break. Nice, that's been. A look for me islike just hiding out somewhere just eating slim jims, all part of a well balanced diet foryeah. What and the other I mean, the other thing is that the slim gyms areso long that they don't fit into my coolar rights, so I have to bend all ofthem so, like all my slim gyms, like come out in, like a l, shape, that's magical, so moving from touring to teaching yeah, it sounds like things are still going,just fine, because you're used to doing these kind ofvirtual lessons, but has the past few months really. Ichange the way that you approach teaching. Are you still kind of taken?It the same that you've always done well. One really interesting thing thathas been a result of this quarantine is that normally, when you know thestudents come over to my house or the...

...school that I teach at or the store Iteach at like, I write something in their notebook or I write something ona piece of paper and hand it to them and since all the lessons have beenover skipe, I have all the I basically do the same thing, but I take apitchere and I send it to him. So I've had all my notes from my teaching hereat my house, and I was just flipping through them, and I realized that you know I have repeats like, of course,my lessons are very focused on what my students want to learn, but there'sjust an amount of stuff that everybody has to learn. So what I've been doing is slowlyconverting my notes that are repeats into formal packets, I'm sort ofwriting guitar books like guitar method books. None of them are like all encompassinglike how to play the guitar but they're on specific topics. I just finished upwriting a packet on, like my scale and our pegiosystem and I'm gonna sort of script and film a video to be acompanion to that and I'm going to start selling them on my website. NiceYeah Yeah. It's so cool, seeing the business ideas that have kind of comeout of everyone just having a lot more time at home and having to adapt to a amore virtual setting, but just shing some of the creativity coming out ofthat like this you're taking something that hey I had this, but I can also useit for other purposes as well and help out other people and that's wonderfullove, seeing the creativity, yeah and yeah, thus shing. Like all my buddies,have these awesome ideas of how to sort of monetize this time has been greatand I've noticed in my teaching. I've actually gained a lot of studentsduring this time because there are still people working, there'sstill people with income coming in and since they're stuck at home. GuitarLessons Online sounds like a great idea, so yeah overall, the teaching it hasn't, slowed down. In fact, it'sbuilt up during this time, which has been a blessing, that's awesome and as far as theteaching goes is there I know you mentioned or Pegias and scales. Isthere a type of exercise or just a a general tip that you thinkmore guitar player should be doing or using? Oh man where to start well and funny enough this ties intowhat we're talking about. I don't I don't see enough of my students divingdeep into the music they love. You know like. If I have a student that comes inand says hey, I love the almon brothers ai'll go like okay cool. What are some of your favorite albumsand it's like you know they name three of them or whatever, but like I'll play, something that I'vetranscribed, meaning like I learned it from ear and either wrote it down, ordid it that music kind of changed that word, but I'll play them straight, something thatI transcribe from the guy that they're saying is their hero and they won'trecognize it. You know so I just I wish that the ideaof learning stuff stealing nut stealing but like taking stuff from the records you loveand using it in your own music. However, you decide to do that. You know I teachguitar players and specifically, I teach a lot of people trying to becomelead. Guitar players or you know, improvising, guitar players and I'malways shocked on how timid and like people resist the idea of taking stuff that they love andlearning from it and also applying it to what they do. Yeah. That's a that's an interestingpoint and I, the idea of like deconstructing anddiving deep into a song, just reminded me against we've, going back to Youtubehere the Ricbiato series of why this song whats it. I think it's just called whythe song is awesome or something like that. Yeah and yeah he'll just pick a song, and it I mean. Sometimes it's like a half hourepisode and I'm just like. I I'm so impressed that there's that much to sayabout this song but he'll he'll deconstruct. You know a line or two orI point out different things that are going on. In the background I learnedin the Blinguan Ehty two song, all the small things, there's a synth partduring the chorus that I mean I had...

...that CD growing up I've essentiallybeen listening to all the small things for more than twenty years and neverknew there was a sinpart in there. I just never picked it up when I waslistening to it and then when it was isolated by itself. I like can't nothear it now when I'm Mustpick to the photo yeah, it's kind of like you know.I don't know if you know this, but on the old led, Zep Plin recordingspecifically since I've been loving you, you can hear the base John Bottom'sbase from pedal squeak like it was. It was squeaky Ahand. I remember like yeah, like I H,d heard thet recording forever and never picked up on it, and then one ofmy friends was saying like a drummer friend of mine was saying Abot like Ican't believe they didn't do they didn't just like oil. The kick drumpedal and I was like what and he's like yeah it's squeaks every time he hits itin the Sun. You can hear a mechanic squeaking noise right before the base,Rom hits and once I heard that every time I hearthat song, all I hear is the based Ron, petal squeaking, oh man. I need to go.Listen to this now, yeah, that's another like hidden thing. There's tons of those, though you know like the the kingsman with Louis Loui,where the drummer drops an F bomb because he drops his stick Ng. So Ithink that's one of the classic goofs in a song, but you definitely hear something in it forsure awesome, awesome and we're nearing the end here. So I wantedto make sure I asked this question which I always like to do is asking aquestion that you wish. You were asked more frequently, and you said thatnobody asks you about your dog Richard and th t. that's a shame. So tell usall about Richard. How did you find him? How what what is he, how old all thatgood stuff, I'm so glad you've? Given me a platform to talk more about my dog,absolutely but yeah, I have A. I have a Dachsin, yes and his name is Richard. I good good, I'm glad I got thatreaction. I didn't know if there was more O, it'sjust Welk, an Richard. You know my you can totally edit this part out. If thisis too much, but my grandpa used to name his dogs like bizarre things andhe had a winner dog, but he named Boner. You know O classy guy. He is, and I just Ithought that dog was awesome. I thought winner dogs were awesome and that dogin particular was so sweet, and so you know when I decided I wanted to get adog. I wanted that kind of dog and I wanted to do like the classier versionof my GRANDPA's joke. That's a nice little tribute it'stouching and a juvenile way. I like it yeah and that's I that's exactly whatthat dog of my grandpa would want. Is I am a big dochsin fan as well. My clfirst ever dog, which still have I mean this, was seven years ago when I gother so not not a super long time ago, but she is a Chihuahua Dochsan mix.Ohwy so has the length- and I guess her ears- are pretty dock Sindyto they're kind of like bat ears. Ocoin she's often referred to his Dabi by other people who have met her for thefirst time and then recently adopted a second dog. That's a dochsand JackRussell terrier mix, which is apparently called a Jackshon, very awkward to say it looks okaywritten down but saying it out loud. I feel ridiculous every time I say it andit's it's great, but I also a a big Fan. This is not true with my own dogs, butI love seeing dogs that are that have human names, Oh yeah, Richard, iscertainly a good, a good qualifier. For that yeah I mean my GRANDPA had somedozis. He would always name his dogs like off things. You know he he had abulldog that he named Shathid and if you're an audience member right nowtake a guess on how shathed is telled, because tous Ke s, meaning like poolped, and he just thought that the dog's face.Look like that and that's why his name was sothed. I bet the vet visits were fun with thatas well. Oh yeah, and he never used the name shithed ever it was always theother one. Well, excellent, I'm glad we have givenRichard his due yeah. Well, it's some other pups too yeah yeah, I mean rich.Richard is awesome. He's he's my buddy,...

...you know he's been lovingtmisquarantine like. I think I think, when things start to go back to normalrichards, going to be very sad that, like his mom and dad are't, just homepetting him a hundred percent of the time. Oh yeah dog happiness is up. I at leastat least sixteen times, ascouple months and yeah. It's going to be certainly like the the other dog Merlin,the Jackson, Jack Shir, still don't still don't know how to actually say it. He we adopted him just at the start ofMarch, so basically right before everything went down wow and I thinkthere was maybe like half a day where someone hasn't been home all day and so he's just he doesn't know anythingelse. Besides this and we'll see how I that goes, but I think if it's anoption I think, like you know, we bought Richard as a puppy and you know like I was getting. I was likefinishing up my bachelor's degree when we got him- andyou know I think, like especially dogs, that you adopt or puppies or whateverthe more time like this you can have is awesome. So you know, I think, thequarantine I hope it's available. I don't know howsafe it is, but I think if somebody's this is a great time to get a new dog,I think I agree and I've seen several peopledoing, that my mom did it my yeah Nice. Do you want to give the new dog a shonat to yeah yeah? Shout it to my boy Max excellent hello, Max yeah, hope, you'relistening and getting all the cuddles yeah? Why are you listening to thisyoure? Well, I'm sure it's to dive into thetop three, which is your top three guitarists. I feel like Max, wouldappreciate good discussion around that. Yeah I'vebeen thinking about this, and you know my career. My career has been basicallyjust being a chameleon on the guitar is you know I play in rack groups and funkgroups and Country Groups and Stol armb groups, and so I'm very diverse in my playing, and soI wanted my list to reflect that. So My- and this is in no particular order,but my first top three has to go out to Danny Getton, who I think is undeniablythe greatest country guitar playerhas ever lived, even if you're, not a bigcountry, Fan this. This guy was just one of those freak shows of theinstrument he can play everything you know he's just a ridiculous guitarplayer. It also looks like a quick, a Google search. The second image is himusing a beer bottle as a slide as a slide. Yeah, that'sawesome yeah. He did that was he had all these like gimmicks on stage. Hewould do, and that was one of them, and the funny thing is that the beer, ifyou watch, live footage of him, he never like finished the beer before hedid it so like it would just foam out the top of the like BOTTLEMEC. So hewould play the song that was like the beer slides on and then the end of thesong was him playing the guitar with his hand covered in a rag to wipe offall the beer he had spuilt on his guitar. That's amazing! Yeah! U O got to checkthat out. That's that's some incredible guitar history and unfortunately likeso many amazing musicians, he definitely got more famous after hedied. So any chance. I get to tell people about Danny Getn y Dom I number two because I spent a lot oftime in school and now playing jazz. I got TA shout out who I think is oneof the best guitar players still living is George Benson. Oh Nice, George Benson, is a weirdfigure in jazz music, because everybody knows him as like. This pop guy, likehi his his best selling records, are like himsinging pop songs. So not many people like dive into hiswork as a sideman when he was just playing guitar in people's bands and methat's where the real like juicy stuff is in the George Benson disography. So if you're listening to this and yourguitar player- and you think that George Benson is just this- likesinging popstar guy go check out. Oh Man, oh check out the the GeorgeBenson Cookbook.

That is, that is a record where he'sjust throwing down for a half hour and it's a it, doesn't have any cooking recipes aswell. So it's not like excting, while you're, while you're playing yourguitar. Well, it's funny because, like he has a, he has a song called thecooker, and then he has one other son. That's like food related. But then thealbum cover is him and his band in like with a black background and they're,all leaning on what looks to be washing machines. So there's a lot of mixed messages:it's called the cookbook there's washing machines on the cover and thenthere's like food related titles, but yeah I mean that album and also offthe top, which was a Jimmy Smith record that George Benson was on that that's agreat record because that was recorded in the early s when George Venson was amassive pop star and he was still practicing all of his like jazz chops.So you get to hear sort of like an evolved version of his early side. ManWork Nice, that's so cool! Okay! I guess Ihave one more. I don't know if all your guests likethoroughly explainn every single person in their top three, but no I I likewhen they do sometimes I'll just get a real quick list and I'm like Oh, please,please expand. Well, I mean I spent a lot of time in high school learning like every Jimmy Hendric songand every Jimmy Hindrixselo, and you know so so my last person is Jimmy Hendrix. I think a lot of people say JimmyHindrixs, but they don't really. You know like he was like the topguitar player on the rollingstone and all this kind of stuff. But Jimmy hindricks is like a weird one forme, because I spent a ton of time sort ofimpersonating Jimmy Hendrixs on the guitar, where, like I had learned somuch of the stuff that I could emulate him and be like decently, convincing andthere's so many layers to hindrix's playing, because you have such a weirdintersection of time happening with Hendrixs. Where you have sort of you know. Popular AfricanAmerican music at the time was like RMB music like Curtis Mayfieldpeople like that, and then you also had like the British Blues Invasion andHendrix is just this perfect amagimation of both of those things andlike the psychedelic sort of drug influence. It's just this perfect stormbecause there's so much of that, like aromb stacks motown thing in hindrix'splaying specifically cursus matoms planes, and then you have all the blues and allthes sort of psychedelic blues rock. That was happening in England comingover and you know, there's just a very like sort of historical lass and we canlearn from hindrix yeah. I could have talked about Hendrix thisentire podcast, so I don't want to spend too much time getting too nerdyabout him, but YEP. That's Wmy List Sof, Danny Getton, George Venson and JimmyHundrix, fantastic, I'm taking notes. I hope other people are taking notes and have some good listening plan fortonight. I'm excited Oh yeah, and- and just one more thing about handrixs isif you're a guitar player and you haven't checked out the band of Gypsy'slive record. That's that's where it's at that's! That's like the! How To playRock Guitar Bible, for me at least. Is the Banda Gypsy's live album, awesome yeah! I am a hundred percent sure my dad had thatgrowing up and I would constantly hear of listening to it and be like Oh, likeeven before I could process music, a sure, yeah. That's that's impressiveplay but- and you know going back to the CDs like if you just look up Jimmy Hindrix onYoutube you're going to see like you know, maybe some clips of himplaying like the hits right, like he'll, probably find a video of him playingHay, Joe or the Star spingled banner, but there's no way, there's no, my knowledge, there's no video of thatnight, there's other videos with the band of Gypsies, but not that night,there's photographs, but no videos and you never would understand Hendrix'sgreatest record if you'v Never bought the CD and listen to it, and also Imean there's a song in there. That's like twelve minutes long, which is not great for like spotifyalgorithms or Youtube agorithms, like...

...a song. That length is not recognized today because of thetechnology that we listen to music on yeah. That's a very good point. Iremember sort of along the same lines. There wason the credence, clearwater revival album. I had growing up, they justrandomly stuck. I heard it through the grape vine a cover that they'd done inthere. That's like yeah, it's like eleven. Twelve minutes something likethat and it's Awesome Thay that Guitar Selo is incredible on that album yeah,I'm heard it through the grape, fine yeah, and it's just like man. They tookthis son because Barbara Gay's version is what likethree minutes and very soey just they just took it and ran with it, and it'sjust kind of like. I think it's kind of. I think it'stowards the end of the album, but it's definitely not the last song. It's justkind of like you know, in the middle of the end, I guess yeah and it's it likeit catches. I reember caught me off guard the first time I'm like this isstill the same song. lite they're still plague. That's so cool impressive, all around well fantasticlance! Thank you! So much for hopping on the PODCAST. If people want to getin touch with you, either to chat music to learn music or to pick up some ofthese new things you have coming out. What can? How can I find you? Okay, so the first place you can find me islance rubycom. That's my website has all my contact information. You canhear Clipston me playing. You can see some of the fans, I'm mean that's agreat place to go. I also, you know, have an instagram which is atLance Ray three thre five and yeah those two places for allthings that are liatut awesome. Well, thank you again forhopping on. This was fantastic. I always love chat about music andlearned a lot of new things, so I have some homework to do. AWESOM. Well,thanks for Havving me man, it was so much fun, absolutely and, of course, toplay us out what did the guitar say to theGuitarist? What pick on someone your own size.

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