Good People, Cool Things
Good People, Cool Things

Episode 17 · 2 years ago

17: Guitar Lessons and Nightmare Gigs with Lance Ruby


Guitar player and educator Lance Ruby joins the podcast to talk about music in a time of social distancing, great guitarists, album art, and some of the worst gigs he's ever played.

Welcome the good people cool things, the podcast featuring conversations with entrepreneurs, writers, musicians and other creatives. I'm your host, Joey held, and today's guest is Lance Ruby, a musician and guitar teacher who has really been making the most of all of this social distancing. Lance offers virtual guitar lessons. He's toured with a lot of great bands and so he has some fantastic stories. We're also diving into top guitar players to check out and if you've ever wanted to learn how to play guitar, Lance it's got your back. I mean he's here, he's got lots of good advice and tips for you to check out. And if you don't have, like some new musicians to listen to by the end of the show, you got to go back and listen, because lance is just dropping all this knowledge on us and you do well to check everything out. If you want to get in touch with good people cool things, you can do so in a couple different ways, twitter and facebook, at GPCT podcast and via email joey at good people, cool thingscom. Get also just check out the good people, cool thingscom website. There's a beautiful little contact form in there. It's next to a smiling picture of me, but I'm smiling a lot of the times, including right now our conversation with Lance. Let's start. I think this should be an easy one for you, but can you give us a just a quick scoop on all your projects, because it seems like you're up to quite a lot lately. Yeah, I have. I have a ton of stuff. I love working with multiple projects and I've sort of taken that almost too far, you could say. But yeah, so my main creative project right now is a is a rock band called must gets your grip weed, and I'm also in a band called Graham good and the painters, which is an awesome group, and I tour a lot with various country artists. But my main gig lately has been an awesome country singer named Boda Penya. And let's see. Yeah, I think for right now that's all the groups I'm in. I could have been. Oh, and I'm also in a I'm in a New Orleans funk band called Crescent city connection. Fantastic, and you're also teaching has of all this too. Yeah, yeah, and that's really I mean. During this kind of crazy quarantine time. That's really what's been keeping me afloat is that. You know, my life previous to the quarantine was like I taught all week and then on the weekends I gigged every weekend. So basically my weekends are now fully free and finally still super busy. Fantastic. Have you partaken in any of the virtual concert performances that have kind of been taken over the Internet over the past few months? Yes, yeah, really. Early on I did one with my band must gets your grip weed, and I did one with Graham good in the painters, and then I did one just solo, and so they've been a lot of fun. They're definitely not the same feeling as playing live. It's definitely a different scenario, but they're still fun. Yeah, and it's it's I think it's fun to see just kind of people's home studios during this or if they do go out and about. I remember seeing bear naked ladies doing one. That was one of them. was out on like a frozen lake, was out kind of on a mountain and just a very Canadian type of Nice Virtual concert there, though I imagine that'd be very cold and it's probably a probably a good hint that maybe that's not live, because, I said, I would expect a lot of wind if you're on top of a frozen lag in the middle of winter. Yeah, I, yeah, I definitely have done all of mine from the comfort of my own house. You know, I'm not going out on any frozen lakes anytime soon. It's probably for the best. It seems seems a little more ambitious than I think we need to be. But good for the bar naked ladies. I'm glad they're I'm glad they're doing stuff. Yes, it's also yeah, it's also kind of been a nice way to be like, oh, they like these bands that I like. I listened to bearnaked ladies grown up. I I'm glad they're still kicking it. I know they've lost one of the original members, but hey, you know what still making me as I still making people happy. That's like an ask far. Yeah, and and that's been a very interesting thing, even for me, like I'm pretty in the know about a lot of music, especially in my area, but you know, hearing, hearing people that maybe just because of my gigging schedule, I haven't had a chance to go see them do their live thing. It's been really awesome to see other musicians, especially, like you say, like in their home studios, in their environment where they're really comfortable. You know, I always say that I play way better in my in my bedroom,...

...than I do on stage. So now I get a chance to see like everybody play in their bedroom, which is kind of fun. That's fantastic. I would agree with that, but I at least try to make up for it on stage by running around a lot. Hopefully people aren't listening. If I know, if I mess up here, there good deal. So, going way back, first time you picked up a guitar, do you remember the first thing that you played? I mean I'm sure it was probably kind of just learning chords, but do you remember the first song where you're like, oh, I feel comfortable playing this and then yet you got through it? Yes, I do. This is a very question. I the first thing I ever learned on the guitar was a CDC's Ain't no noise pollution and that's and, and then I proceeded to learn that whole album, the back in black album. That was my first like thing I did on the guitar was I learned all the songs and then a little later I learned all the Solos and yeah, yeah, was there particular reason for that, or was it just like I like this, I want to learn how to play it. Well, when I was a kid, like you know, I don't know why, I don't know when itunes or any of those things kind of came out, but my I grew up in a really small town or really rule town in Utah and basically the only way I could get cd or yeah, CDs was like in my mom's grocery shopping trip to like big her to buy me a CD from Walmart, and I just remember back in black was the first CD I ever bought and I just fully fell in love with it. I thought the guitar was so cool, I thought angus young was so cool. Later I thought Malcolm Young was so cool and yeah, I was just super inspired by that album when I was a kid and it was just like everything. I listened to it every day. I thought it was so awesome. So when I finally got a guitar, those were that was the stuff I wanted to learn. That's awesome. I sometimes I missed the days of CDs. Like it's great to discover all this new music nowadays that I probably wouldn't have otherwise. But there's just like no better feeling of the first time you open up a CD and like looking at the liner. No, it's see in the artwork. Yeah, it was be so disappointed if it was just like a generic, like gray disc with like the real tiny font of like Oh, here's what you're listening to. Come on. Well, and and two things, like I really miss the CD days because, like I said, like I listened to back in black, like I can still sing all the lyrics, I can sing all the Solos. I can probably still play a lot of the Solos too, and a lot of the songs. But, like I just I dove deep into that album and I see it a lot with my students nowadays, like they'll find something cool on youtube and they'll check it out for that afternoon and then they never revisit it again, or if they do, it's like they're trying to find new stuff, you know. Yeah, like back in the CD days, I feel like a part of my development as a guitar player was only having three or four CDs and just wearing them out and just really diving deep into those records. Yeah, that's a terrific point and it's I mean, I youtube doesn't make it easy with the related videos coming up, and then you're, you know, twenty minutes later you're down a completely different rabbit hole, exactly. Yeah, and sometimes didn't even know how to get back to where you were. Yeah, I mean it's I remember, like one night I just decided to log my youtube rabbit hole and it's a dangerous game. Yeah, if anybody else had this problem we're talking about, just conduct this experiment right down, like the first video start with, and then just let yourself naturally like go where you want and then write down like the last video you'll out to and it's astonishing. So, do you remember where you started and ended when you did this? Yeah, so I started out listening to the the led Zeppelin BBC sessions, which are awesome, and I listened to him all the time, and I ended up on your wax removal videos. I don't know why the Algorithm wanted me to see those, but I remember I clicked on one of the videos and I watched a second of it and I was like, I've had enough internet today. This is good. It's nice when you know that you have that moment where it's just like, Yep, Internet work, we're done for the day. Yeah, we're pulling the e break. We're done here. I will say I don't know if you've ever listened to this. I am a huge fan of this. I think most people tend... not be when I share it with them, but way back in the day Patton Oswald tweeted about the chipmunks Christmas Song. Slow down. Oh yeah, so, yeah, so it's just, I mean it sounds like a bunch of drunk teenagers. Dave sounds like the spawn of Satan. It's very delightful, but still like really good harmonies, like those chipmunks have good harmonies. And for whatever reason the related videos that pop up for that are just like all over the map but right also wildly entertaining. So Youtube's like, you know what, this is just weird enough, but in a different way that you're gonna like it. And Yeah, it's been pretty spot on. That's Oh, one more thing I wanted to say about CD is. Sorry too, sorry to left hern like that, but yeah, yeah, like you said, the artwork, like I remember, I discovered like iron maiden just because, like that row in Walmart just had the coolest art and you know, otherwise nobody was going to tell me to go check out iron maiden, you know. And one more thing is that Walmart. I don't know if this was the case everywhere, but Utah's a very conservative place. So like the a lot of CDs like if the cover was way too risk a, they would have like alternate covers for them. And Yeah, I remember in high school there was a new band that came out and I remember seeing their music video on youtube and thinking it was like pretty cool and I wanted to go buy the CD and it was a band called Wolf mother. I don't know if you remember them. I do. I don't know if I can name any other songs, but I do remember them. Yeah, so I remember I went down to Walmart and they had like one copy of the wolf mother CD and I was so disappointed because it was just black and it just said Wolf mother, like in their fought and I was like Oh man, but you know, this band was kind of cool. They kind of sounded like led Zeppelin. I was a huge led Zeppelin fans. I was like I'm gonna go home and check this out and then as soon as I open it up, I realize that there's the cover, is just a thin piece of paper and you pull that off and it's this like awesome oil painting of like this naked woman riding an octopus, and I was like yeah, this is yeah, this is awesome. That's amazing that they went to the trouble to. I know I canna, but it was like it was like the best way to resolve that situation. I was so bummed out about their album cover and then it turns out it was exactly what thirteen year old me wanted. That's that's fantastic. I'm also a big fan of just liner notes. Oh yeah, I like especially if they're kind of I mean, obviously like you get the lyrics, but if they're kind of fun to like I said, I feel like I'm B side or a compilation albums. You'd get this a decent amount where they're just like Oh, yeah, we wrote this song. What, like I went skateboarding and like broke my leg and then wrote the song while I was in the emergency room getting surgery done. On my mind, just like what? That's so awesome. I mean, in my opinion, the best liner notes that exist are on every single for xamp album like that. Dude just wrote the best liner notes for everything and then made zero sense and I don't remember any of them. I can't like recite any of them, but I can tell you that if you want a great time, just go buy like Zappa vinyls and read the liner notes, and you know he had a great time doing this. Two. Oh Yeah, yeah, I remember like specimit. Okay, maybe I remember one specifically just because it jumped out to me. But like there's the album shut up and player guitar, which is awesome. In the in the liner notes, he's explaining that like no record label wants to carry his albums anymore, but he wants to do male. He started his own record label and how he's going to do it is by like mail order records. So like, if you want the new frank zapp album, you have to like bill this thing out and send it back to him. And just how he's like describing the hideous monsters that are the record companies is is awesome. That's so good. I I remember a weird Al Album that I had that had just like a really long last track, and I I think this is this must have been his running with scissors album. Okay, I was junior high. For me, I think, and that I mean that's the perfect daide for Weird Al isn't it? Like Oh, for sure. Yeah, and it was as this was like before the time when you could just easily look up lyrics on the...

Internet. And it was. He has a song on the end of that album called Albuquerque that's like a no eleven and a half minute song about how he goes to Albuquerque, and I won't spoil it for anyone that hasn't listen, but it's quite the adventure. So I checking it out. But the the liner notes for it, he starts writing the lyrics and he gets like eight lines into the song and then it's like, you know what, like we're going to run out of room here. You know, I probably should have thought this out better and added another piece of paper, you smaller Faun or something, but I guess you're a here. Just going to have to listen really carefully and try I figure everything out. That's awesome. Yeah, and I mean it's kind of a sad thing that sort of all that is lost now, you know, like I remember when I was a kid, like you know, like what I was talking about before, with back in black, like I quickly learned all the guys names in ACDC. You know. Yeah, I knew what they look like. And and now if I find a new band on spotify or whatever, I have no idea the names of the guys in the band. I have no you know. And then I'm looking at the album art in like a thumbnail. Yeah, that's tiny and yeah, you know it. I just remember that being a thing that, if you're a fan of music, that's the stuff that's that's like the the stuff you get nerdy about, you know. Oh, for sure. And then I like to play the game sometimes too, especially with newer artists that I don't I'm not as familiar with, of because you kind of picture what someone looks like based on how they sound, and then going to the music video and watching it and it's like, oh no, I went some way off here. Yeah, yeah, I've definitely played that game a couple times and then either either been happy or very disciplined. Do you have an example of being very disappointed? Oh Man, I remember, like this is so old, I don't know if anybody will remember this, but itunes used to give away free songs like they would have like a free song of the month or something like that. And this went on for a while, maybe like two years, and I've found this band called like silver thin or Silver Fang, something like that, and they were like, you know, they were just exactly what I was listening to. They were like ACDC led Zeppelin, that type of band, like kind of classic rock band, Hmm. And I clicked I found the music video on Youtube and I was just like what, like the dudes in the band were like the bedazzled jeans. It was like very that. I'm pretty sure there was like a lot of eyeliner. It was very strange. Oh and the same thing, probably the biggest disappointment I had was my chemical romance. I know that's probably the opposite for every buddy, but I heard the tune teenagers and if you just hear that song, it just sounds like a Gutsy, like blues rock tune, HMM, and I was obviously super into that stuff. And then I click on the video and they're like all goth and emode up, they have like face paint on. You know, that was a very disappointing time for fifteen year old layouce. I remember. I I don't know if you got fuse TV? Oh yeah, yeah, form really much music, and I feel like my chemical romance was like come on the up and up when I was most watching that. So I feel like my first exposure to them was via video, but I definitely get how, if you hear them first, it's like you have you have an idea in your mind, especially with teenagers, I would say some of the other songs, I'm like that's exactly how I would expect them, yeah, to look and act and and I was like, you know, just checking out like the led Zeppelin discography and like Black Sabbath. I that those were the bands I loved, and then when I heard teenagers on the radio, I was like, oh, awesome, this band is kind of doing that. And then when I heard the Nice, you know. So I listened to the song and the radio and I was like this is awesome, and I remember like hearing the DJ say the name by Chemical Romance and then like later that night, getting on my mom's old, like you know, off white piece, like typing it in and then just seeing this like you know Emo, you know, like everybody knows what they look like. So I was just like, Oh man, I was hoping that they would like, you know, look like led Zeppelin or whatever, and then you get a band like I don't know why I was on this music video the other day, but Dragon Force flames true classic where everything about that music video is a hundred percent what I would expect. Yeah, bent do and Nerdy dudes with long hair. That's exactly what that band is like.

Over chair length down to the back, I think. During there's like a guitar solo off between the two guitarists and one of them is just like chugging a beer while the other ones playing. Yes, yeah, I remember. I remember thinking that video was so cool, especially because that came out like right around the time I started playing guitar. So obviously I couldn't play any of that stuff because it is super hard. But I'm yeah, yeah, that guy's name Sam topped by the way. That's how nerdy I got about that. Nice. But yeah, Sam Topman is playing an Ibanez iceman and he's drinking a beer like middle of his solo and I'm just that's so cool. And nowadays, if I, if I were to try that, I just either the guitar would fall somehow or the beer would get knocked over and pick it up and kick it over and yeah, we think it's short it at I've spilt so many beers on pedal bullets it's not even funny. At least you're doing it. It's the worst when someone else knocks into it and they're just like you're like, come on, man, Oh yeah, yeah, the and and that definitely happens. I always love, especially when you're playing one of these stages that is not high enough, like, in my mind, a proper like if you're playing a festival, the stage should be about shoulder lights to the average human, you know what I mean. And when you when you have, when you're playing on a stage like in a bar, something that's like table heights and people immediately decide to set their drinks on the stage because it's table hype. That's like the most annoying thing. There's so many tables here, you can you can't go to a table. This, this is this is one stage with ninety tables and all of those tables will work for your drink. This one particular table heights thing does not work for your drink. Well, this might segue nicely because I always asked, I always enjoy asking musicians this, but what's the worst Gig that you've ever played? Oh Man, there are so many. Everyone is worse than the last. Yeah, I mean, okay too. I'll give you two because I'm got pretty bad. So I went when I was really just starting out, like I was getting my Undergrad degree in music in Utah and I got a email out of the blue that said, hey, I I am booking music at this Sushi restaurant near you. We Want Live Jazz, and I was studying jazz at the time, so I was like cool, and I remember I go there, I set up. It was like me in a another. It was like a duo gig. So it's just two of us and we play the first song and the manager comes up to us and he does not speak English, but I can tell he's disappointed in we're doing. And then, you know, I don't know what he wants differently. So we play the next song and then the manager comes back with a young girl and she's now translating for him that they want happy jazz and we are playing sad jazz, and I just remember like we played like an hour's worth of like you know, jazz songs and major keys. And then we still had like an hour and a half left to go of the GIG and I was like every all the other tunes I know are in minor key. Did we just gotta suck it up. They're not going to be happy. So that was bad. Anytime like somebody hires you, especially for an a ants, and they don't like the music you're playing, that is a rough gig. Yeah, especially if they did not tell you, like if that guy had said we want happy jazz, which you know, what does that even mean? But if they had said we want happy jazz, then I could have liked put together set list of happy jazz or whatever. But the some of the worst gigging experiences is like I got hired for a thing and they want something way different, and then the the other. I mean when I first started touring, I remember what my friends and I from who were in this band. We call this the tour from Hell, because everything that could go wrong did so. Like we go to the first GIG right we're it was a Colorado based band and our first gig was in South Dakota and we go to South Dakota and that night, halfway through our set, the stage collapses on us. Oh No, like they had like a Rinky Dick,... aluminum, like piece together stage and it fell and then we were just like, okay, we're going to let the place fix the stage for us and then we'll play the rest of the set. And they decided to fix it with like milk cartons. They just got like a bunch of milk cartons and stack them on top of each other and those were the support system for the stage. Seem safe him, it's taught. Yeah, totally safe. So then that happened. And then on the way to the next Gig, our van broke down. Specifically, we lost the break pump, so the brakes did not work. So that's horrifying. And then we ended up renting a ANSUV because there was no way our vand was going to be fixed in time, and we got to the next Gig like an hour late because of the rental process. Also, we didn't realize that the time changed from South Dakota to the other side of South Dakota, and it's one of those states. Yeah, we did not realize that. So we were we were late to the GIG and we ended up playing and it was great because it really felt like we had overcome quite a bit to get to that Gig. So that gig felt awesome. But yeah, just everything that could go wrong on that little run did, but hopefully you came out stronger on the other side. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I I started a touring way differently. I realized if you show up to the band leader's house and he starts telling you about like the great deal he got on the van, it's probably not going to go great. Oh one other hidden feature of that story is that he didn't have enough of chairs in the van for all of us to sit down, and so he was like, Oh, I have the chairs out back, let me go grab them, and he grabbed chairs and they were chairs from a different vehicle, so they didn't like lock into play. Oh, so he just like got like I forgot Iver got all the things we did, but I remember like tying them down. There was a rock involved to try and like hold the seat down, but like every time you move that the chair would basically fall over. So that was that was a fun time. Yeah, that seems real secure. Yeah, I was a great situation. I can tell you that since then, like the touring situation is gotten just better. And better each time. But yeah, those first couple runs with like random different groups was pretty scary. Do you have a go too? I snack or meal that you do just about every tour? Does a kind of depend on where you are? Yes, I do, and I get I get crap for it every single time because so I have. I've CILIAC disease, I can't have gluten. So my Goto is I always have this little red cooler and I have a loaf of gluten free bread, a jar of peanut butter and then like all the Slim Jim's and like meat sticks that are like on sale at the grocery store the day before I leave. So my my cooler is just full of like bread, peanut butter and like a billion slim Jim's. Well, Randy, macho man savage would be very proud of you. Yeah, Dude, snap into a slim gym. That's that's that's what I'm about. Do you also bring them up on stage? I feel like that would be kind of a nice stage presence. They're snapping a slim Jim toss the other half of the crow get into the first saw. I never thought about that, but that's awesome. I definitely. I definitely have ate slim jims like during the set break nice. That's been a look for me as like just hiding out somewhere just eating slim Jim's all part of a well balanced diet for yeah. Well, and the other I mean the other thing is that the slim gyms are so long that they don't fit into my cooler rights, though. I have to bend all of them, so like all my slim Jim's like come out in like an l shape. That's magical. The moving from touring to teaching. Yeah, it sounds like things are still going just fine because you're used to doing these kind of virtual lessons, but has the past few months really change the way that you approach teaching? Are you still kind of taken at the same that you've always done? Well, one really interesting thing that has been a result of this quarantine is that normally, when, you know, the students come over... my house or the school that I teach at or the store I teach at, like I write something in their notebook or I write something on a piece of paper and hand it to them, and since all the lessons have been over skype, I have all the I basically do the same thing, but I take a picture and I send it to them. So I've had all my notes from my teaching here at my house and I was just flipping through them and I realize that, you know, I have repeats, like, of course my lessons are very focused on what my students want to learn, but there's just an amount of stuff that everybody has to learn. So what I've been doing is slowly converting my notes that are repeats into formal packets. I'm sort of Writing Guitar Books, like Guitar Method Books. None of them are like all encompassing, like how to play the guitar, but they're on specific topics. I just finished up writing a packet on like my scale and Ur piggio system and I'm going to sort of script and film a video to be a companion to that and I'm going to start selling them on my website. Nice. Yeah, yeah, it's so cool seeing the business ideas that have kind of come out of everyone just having a lot more time at home and having to adapt to a more virtual setting, but just seeing some of the creativity coming out of that. Like this, you're taking something that, hey, I had this, but I can also use it for other purposes as well and help out other people, and that's wonderful. Love seeing the creativity. Yeah, and yeah, just seeing like all my buddies have these awesome ideas of how to sort of monetize this time has been great and I've noticed in my teaching I've actually gained a lot of students during this time, because there are still people working, they're still people with income coming in and since they're stuck at home, guitar lessons online sounds like a great idea. So, yeah, overall the teaching, it hasn't slowed down, in fact it's built up during this time, which has been a blessing. That's awesome. And as far as the teaching goes, is there I know you mentioned our Peggie as and scales. Is there a type of exercise or just a general tip that you think more guitar player should be doing or using? Oh Man, where to start? Well, and funny enough, this ties into what we're talking about. I don't I don't see enough of my students diving deep into the music they love. You know, like if I have a student that comes in and says, Hey, I love the allman brothers and I'll go like, okay, cool, what are some of your favorite albums? And it's like, you know, they name three of them or whatever. But like I'll play something that I've transcribed, meaning like I learned it from ear and either wrote it down or did it the music. Kind of change that word. But I'll play them straight something that I transcribe from the guy that they're saying as their hero and they won't recognize it, you know. So I just I wish that the idea of learning stuff, stealing, not stealing, but like taking stuff from the records you love and using it in your own music, however you decide to do that. You know, I teach guitar players and specifically I teach a lot of people trying to become lead guitar players or, you know, improvising guitar players, and I'm always shocked on how timid and like people resist the idea of taking stuff that they love and learning from it and also applying it to what they do. Yeah, that's a that's an interesting point, and I the idea of like deconstructing and diving deep into a song just reminded me. Against we going back to Youtube here. The Rick Biato series of why this song? What say? I think it's just called why this song is awesome or something like that. Yeah, and yeah, he'll just pick a song and it. I mean sometimes it's like a half hour episode and I'm just like, I I'm so impressed that there's that much to say about this song. But he'll deconstruct, you know, a line or two or point out different things that are going on in the background. I learned in the Blinkin Eighty twong all the small things. There's a synth part during the chorus. That I mean I...

I had that CD growing up. I've essentially been listening to all the small things for more than twenty years and never knew there was a synth part in there. I just never picked it up when I was listening to it, and then when it was isolated by itself, I like can't not hear it now when I'm listening to this little yeah, it's kind of like, you know, I don't know if you know this, but on the old led Zeppelin recording, specifically since I've been loving you, you can hear the Bass, John Bonham's based drum pedals squeak like it was. It was squeaky and I remember like yeah, like I had heard that recording forever and never picked up on it. And then one of my friends was saying, like a drummer friend of mine was saying that, like I can't believe they didn't do it. They didn't just like oil the kick drum pedal and I was like what? And he's like yeah, it's squeaks. Every time he hits it in the song you can hear a mechanic squeaking noise right before the bass drum hits and once I heard that. Every time I hear that song, all I hear is the Bass Drum pedal squeaking. Oh Man, I need to go listen to this now. Yeah, that's another like hidden thing. There's tons of those, though. You know, like the the kingsman with Louis Louis, where the drummer drops an fbomb because he drops his stick during so I think that's one of the classic goofs in a song, but you definitely hear something in it, for sure. Awesome, awesome, and we're near in the end here, so I wanted to make sure I ask this question, which I always like to do, is asking a question that you wish you were asked more frequently and you said that nobody asks you about your dog, Richard, and that that's a shame. So tell us all about Richard. How did you find him? How? What? What is he? How old, all that good stuff. I'm so glad you've given me a platform to talk more about my dog. Absolutely, but yeah, I have a I have a Docsin, yes, and his name is Richard. I'm good, good, I'm glad I got that reaction. I didn't know if there was more to it's just WELLG and Richard. You know my you can totally edit this part out if this is too much, but my grandpa used to name his dog ugs like bizarre things, and he had a Weiner dog that he named Boner, you know, because classy guy he is. And I just I thought that dog was awesome. I thought Weiner dogs were awesome and that dog in particular was so sweet and so, you know, when I decided I wanted to get a dog, I wanted that kind of dog and I wanted to do like the classier version of my GRANDPA's joke. That's a nice little tribute. It's touching in a juvenile way. I like it. Yeah, and that's it. That's exactly what that dog, my GRANDPA would want is. I am a big docks and fan as well. My first ever dog, which I still have. I mean this was seven years ago when I got her, so not not a super long time ago. But she is a Chihuahua docks and mix. Oh Wow, so has the length and I guess her ears are pretty doc cindy too. They're kind of like Bat earsen. She's often referred to as Dhabi by other people who have met her for the first time and then recently adopted a second dog that's a docks and Jack Russell terrier mix, which is apparently called a jacktioned. Very awkward to say. It looks okay written down, but saying it out loud I feel ridiculous every time I say it and it's it's great. But I also am a big Fan. I this is not true with my own dogs, but I love seeing dogs that are that have human names. Oh Yeah, Richard is certainly a good a good qualifier for that. Yeah, I mean my my GRANDPA had some doozis. He would always name his dogs like off things, you know. He he had a bulldog that he named shathide. And if you're an audience member right now, take a guess on how should feed is styled, because it sounds so meaning like poop head, and he just thought that the dog's face look like that and that's why his name was should theed. I bet the that visits were fun with that as well. Oh yeah, and he never used the name Shafide ever, it was always the other one. Well, excellent. I'm glad we we have given Richard his do yeah, well as some other pups do. Yeah, yeah, I mean Richard, Richard is awesome. He's is my buddy. I... know, he's been loving this quarantine like I think. I think when things start to go back to normal, Richard's going to be very sad that, like his mom and dad aren't just home petting him a hundred percent of the time. Oh Yeah, dog happiness is up. I at least at least sixteen times ask of months. And Yeah, it's going to be certainly like the the other dog, Merlin, the Jocksund Jackson. Still don't, still don't know how to actually say it. He we adopted him just at the start of March, so basically right before everything went down. Wow, and I think there was maybe like half a day where someone hasn't been home all day and so he's just he doesn't know anything else besides this. So we'll see how that goes. But I think if it's an option, I think, like you know, we bought Richard as a puppy and you know, like I was getting I was like finishing up my bachelor's degree when we got them and you know, I think, like especially dogs, that you adopt puppies or whatever, the more time like this you can have is awesome. So, you know, I think the quarantine, I hope it's available. I don't know how safe it is, but I think if somebody's this is a great time to get a new dog. I think I agree and I've seen several people doing that. My mom did it. My Yeah, Nice. Do you want to get the new dog? A shout out to yeah, yeah, shout out to my boy Max. Excellent. Hello, Max. Yeah, hope you're listening and getting all the cuddles. Yeah, why are you listening to this? Well, I'm sure it's to dive into the top three, which is your top three guitarists. I feel like Max would appreciate good, good discussion around that. Yeah, I've been thinking about this and you know my my career, my career has been basically just being a chameleon on the guitar is, you know, I play and rock groups and funk groups and country groups and solar and be groups, and so I'm I'm very diverse in my playing and so I wanted my list to reflect that. So my in this is in no particular order, but my first top three has to go out to Danny Gatton, who I think is undeniably the greatest country guitar player has ever lived. Even if you're not a big country fan, this, this guy was just one of those freak shows of the instrument. He can play everything. You know, he's just a ridiculous guitar player. It also looks like a quick Google search. The second image was him using a beer bottle as a slide, as a slide, yeah, which is awesome. Yeah, he did. That was he had all these like gimmicks on stage he would do and that was one of them. And the funny thing is that the beer, if you watch live footage of him, he never liked finished the beer before he did it, so like it would just foam out the top. Of the like bottleneck. So he would play the song that was like the beer slide song and then the end of the song was him playing the guitar with his hand covered in a rag to wipe off all the beer he hads built on his guitar. It's amazing. Yeah, you gotta check that out. That's that's some incredible guitar history and unfortunately, like so many amazing musicians, he definitely got more famous after he died. So any chance I get to tell people about Danny Gatton, I do. I'm number two because I spent a lot of time in school and now playing jazz. I got a shout out. Who I think is one of the best guitar players still living is a George Benson. Oh Nice. George Benson is a weird figure in jazz music because everybody knows him is like this pop guy, like his his his best selling records are like him singing pop songs. So not many people like dive into his work as a sideman when he was just playing guitar and people's bands and me that's where the real, like juicy stuff is in the George Benson discography. So if you're listening to this in your guitar player and you think that George Benson is just this like singing pop star guy. Good, check out, Oh man, oh, check out the the George Benson Cook Book. That is that is a...

...record where he's just throwing down for a half hour and it's a it doesn't have any cooking recipes as well, so it's not like make something while you're while you're playing your guitar. Well, it's funny because, like he has a he has a song called the cooker and then he has one other song that's like food related, but then the album cover is him and his band in like with a black background and they're all leaning on what looks to be washing machines. So there's a lot of mixed messages. It's called the cookbook, there's washing machines on the cover and then there's like food related titles. But yeah, I mean that album and also off the top, which was a Jimmy Smith record that George Benson was on. That that's a great record because that was recorded in the early s when George Benson was a massive pop star and he was still practicing all of his like jazz chops. So you get to hear sort of like an evolved version of his early sideman work. Nice. That's so cool. Okay, I guess I have one more. I don't know if all your guests like thoroughly explain every single person in their top three, but no, I like when they do. Sometimes I'll just get a real quick list and I'm like oh please, please expand. Well, I mean I spent a lot of time in high school learning like every Jimi Hendrix song and every Jimi Hendrix Solo and you know so. So my last person is Jimmi Hendrix. I think a lot of people say Jimmi Hendrix but they don't really you know, like he was like the top guitar player on the rolling stone and all this kind of stuff. But Jimmie Hendrix is like a weird one for me because I spent a ton of time sort of impersonating Jimmi Hendrix on the guitar, where like I had learned so much of his stuff that I could emulate him and be like decently convincing. And there's so many layers to Hendrix is playing, because you have such a weird intersection of time happening with Hendrix where you have sort of, you know, popular African American music at the time was like rb music, like Curtis Mayfield, people like that, and then you also had like the British Blues Invasion and Hendrix is just this perfect amalgamation of both of those things and like the psychedelic sort of drug influence. It's just this perfect storm because there's so much of that like rb stacks smotown thing in Hendricks is playing, specifically, Curtis Mayfield's playing, and then you have all the blues and all the sort of psychedelic blues rock that was happening in England coming over and you know, there's just a very like sort of historical lesson we can learn learn from Hendricks. Yeah, I could have talked about Hendrix this entire podcast, so I don't want to spend too much time getting too nerdy about him, but YEP, that's my list. So Danny Getting George Benson and Jimmy Hendrix. Fantastic. I'm taken notes. I hope other people are taking notes and I have some good listening plan for tonight. I'm excited. Oh yeah, and and just one more thing about Hendricks is if you're a guitar player and you haven't checked out the band of Gypsies live record. That's that's where it's at. That's that's like the how to play Rock Guitar Bible, for me at least, is the band of Gypsy's live album. Awesome. Yeah, I am a hundred percent sure. My Dad had that growing up and I would constantly hear of listening to it and be like like, even before I could process music, I should yeah, that's that's impressive. Playing well and you know, going back to the CD's, like if you just look up Jimmy Hendrix on Youtube, you're going to see like, you know, maybe some clips of him playing like the hits right, like he'll probably find a video of him playing hey joe or the Star spangled banner, but there's no wet, there's no to my knowledge, there's no video of that night. There's other videos with the band of Gypsies, but not that night. There's photographs, but no videos. And you never would understand Hendrix's greatest record if you've never bought the CD and listen to it. And also, I mean there's a song in there that's like twelve minutes long, which is not great for like spotify algorithms or you YouTube algorithms. Like a song that length is not recognized today because...

...of the technology that we listen to music on. Yeah, that's a very good point. I remember sort of along the same lines. There was on the credence clearwater revival album I had growing up. They just randomly stuck. I heard it through the grape vine a cover that they've done in there that's like yeah, it's like twelve minute something like that, and it's awesome. That guy that Guitar Solo is incredible on that album. Yeah, I heard it through the grape vine. Yeah, and it's just like man, they took this song because Barbara Gay's version is what like three minutes and very straight. They just they just took it and ran with it and it's just kind of like I think it's kind of I think it's towards the end of the album, but it's definitely not the last song. It's just kind of like, you know, in the middle of the end, I guess, and it's like it catches. I remember caught me off guard the first time. I like, this is still the same song, like they're still playing. That's so cool impress of all around. Well, fantastic lance. Thank you so much for hopping on the PODCAST. If people want to get in touch with you, either to chat music, to learn music or to pick up some of these new things you have coming out, what can how can I find it? Okay, so the first place you can find me is lance rubycom. That's my website. Has All my contact information. You can hear clips and me playing. You can see some of the bands I'm in. That's a great place to go. I also, you know, have an instagram which is at Lance Ray, three, three, five and yeah, those two places for all things that are Lance Ruby. Awesome. Well, thank you again for hopping on. This was fantastic. I always love chat about music and learned a lot of new things, so I have some homework to do. Awesome. Well, thanks for having me, man, it was so much fun. Absolutely and, of course, to play us out. What did the guitar say to the Guitarist? What pick on someone your own size.

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