Good People, Cool Things
Good People, Cool Things

Episode 47 · 1 year ago

On the Right Path and The Best NBA Dunks with Brett Gunning, Stacy Padula, and Maddy Moore

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Author Stacy Padula teamed up with NBA Coach Brett Gunning on a children’s book series based on the principles of his nonprofit, On the Right Path. And because every kids’ book needs some great illustrations, they called in Maddy Moore to sink a few clutch shots with her designs. 

We’re chatting about the book writing process, the best quarantines, and some of Brett’s most memorable NBA moments, including a delightful story about Kevin McHale. 

Welcome the locally source. Welcome thegood people cool things that I speak conversations with contepres writers, musicians and othercreatives. I'm your host, Joey held, and we have a good people coolthings first on. Here three guests all part of the on the rightpath book series. We have MBA coach Brett gunning, author Stacy Padula andillustrator Maddie Moore, and all three of them are chatting about putting a bookseries together, which is a pretty impressive thing to do. Stacy and Brettand Maddie are all talking about the inspiration behind this book series, what it'slike collaborating in the midst of a pandemic, and Brett shares some of his favoritemoments as an NBA coach. And because I am a fellow basketball GEEK, we're also talking some of our favorite dunks in NBA dunk contest history.Lots of good stuff here throughout. If you like to get in touch withgood people cool things, you can reach out on facebook, twitter or instagramat GPCT podcast, or send an email to joey at good people cool thingscomalways love hearing from you, and you can also support the show via theshop, good people, cool thingscom shop. Get yourself a nice Hoodie, anice hat, some nice mugs or shirts. I literally drank out ofmy if only it were wine mug today. Sadly it was not wine and saidit was just some tea, but it could have been wine. Andthat's the most important part, is thinking positively, especially when we're all coopedup inside. In the meantime, settle in for a fantastic episode with Brett, stacy and Maddie. I'd love to get the elevator pitch on the bookseries here, but first, what kind of elevator are we riding in whileyou're why? You were telling us about the butt. Well, I've beenfortunate over the last twenty secures in coaching to ride some all different types ofelevators and and can't I can't really say that too many stand out, butone that did was I was fortunate to stay a beautiful hotel out in SanDiego at one point, the hotel they'll coronado and they they stay. Youknow, it's an old, old fashioned hotel and very historical and they stillkind of have the elevator shafts from years and years ago and I think atthe time they even had it was at the point where they would have ahotel worker. Would would actually be like riding the elevator with with the withthe people, with the guests, and I don't want to even say it'sthe term cranking the elevator, but I thank you. was almost cranking itup to each floor so that that's the elevator were we're riding in right now, but that, you know, the elevator pitch. You know, it'sinteresting. I was sitting on my couch one day months ago and I wasreading a book to my son at the time, who was three, andit was a it was a dinosaur book, and he asked me to read itto him and so, you know, I said, I'm sitting there readingit to him and by the end I closed the book and I saidWow, I said that this was an amazing simple book about a dime.You know, it's a dinosaur book, but it here it is, youknow, ten pages later, it taught my son a very simple, basicprinciple about being a good friend when you're at the playground. And at thatat that point, you know, God had put in my spirit like Iwant you to write a children series tying in just a simple life skills thatI've been able to witness up, you know, first firsthand through the gameof basketball. So thus comes the idea of on the right path and it'stied into my nonprofit organization, which is...

...guiding youth basketball players on the rightpath to reaching their maximum potential through free teaching, education and mentorship. Sowe we dove into this project with stacy and Maddie and we we can't bemore excited to get our first book complete. You're very soon. That's super cooland spot on with I'm always amazed every time I read a children's book. I was like, I don't remember that many good lessons I when Iwas reading books. So maybe I was just reading the wrong ones growing up, but I feel like they've really really stepped up the game over the pastdecade or so. Yeah, you're right. I mean, yeah, back inthe day reading curious George and books like that. There's way more teachinggoing on nowadays. And Stacy and Maddie, you're also with us on this elevator. So Brett gave it a nice overview of the book. How abouthow about you two? How did you end up getting in touch together toworking on this series. I guess ironically, could link it to San Diego aswell. So earlier, and see, I think it was my gosh,was the spring of two thousand and nineteen. I had gone up toCalifornia and I ended up meeting up with a producer out there who is afriend of Mine, David Gunning, and he actually happens to be Brett's nephew. And David want us to talk about turning one of one of my booksthat I had already written into a movie. So David and I started working togetherand we're currently working on turning my entire book series into a TV show. But because I was in contact with David when Brett had the idea forthis book series, Dave had put me in Brett and hotch so that wecould dive into this together. So when I was out in California, actuallystay in San Diego. So it's kind of funny that Brett picked that elevatorof all of them, but it's pretty cool. So yes, sir,David connected us and then Brett and I drove into it and I, youknow, as the publisher and the author, I needed to find a really talentedillustrator. So that was when I set out to do interviews and just, you know, put it out there on a bunch of different sites andI'm so blessed to get Maddie, Maddie's application, because I just loved herportfolio and everything before I even met with her, and then she was justthe one. You know, there was a couple other illustrators. I remembershowing, you know, their work to Brett and stuff, but me andBrett were both just enthralled with Maddie's work and we just couldn't be happier withthe way things are going. That was very flattering. It must be niceto hear Maddie Hunh. Yeah, stacy and I connected just after I graduateduniversity and with this crazy, crazy year we've been having. I graduated witha degree in a field in which I couldn't pursue given the pandemic. Istudied archeology for four years at Punn and I've done excavations on traveled a lotand that's just something that wasn't viable for the fall and even going into thenext year. So I kind of had to stop and look at myself inthe mirror and say, you know, what's skills do I have, whatdo I love to do and what can I do from the safety of myown home? And it's funny because I always told myself drawing is something ofa hobby of mine and I never wanted to turn it into work and Ialways kind of wanted to keep it as this thing that was my escape from, you know, school work or you know whatever. But then I'm sittinghere with this my tablet in my hand and just knowing how much I lovedoing this and I thought to my you know, why not give it ashot, why not make this my job? So I also went out to abunch of application sites and I've sorted through piles and piles of applications.I interviewed for a huge amount of jobs...

I was not remotely qualified for,and then I stumbled on Stacy's advertisement about this project and immediately it run aboutwith me because I come from a family of international coaches. And then Brett'smission just really spoke to me growing up around coaches. And then stacy andI connected and we really hit it off and yeah, the rest is historyand we've just really kind of melded well together. It's always nice when youhave that moment where you're like yes, this is this is the one,this is it, and that's awesome that y'all found each other like that.Will get back to the design element, because I think that's a very crucialpart of really any book, but especially for Children's book. But, Brett, I have to ask, because there's twelve books in the series and Isaw that there's you've got twelve basketball skill pillars and twelve life skill pillars.Are we seeing one of each in each of these books or are all twelvein every one of the bucks here? Yeah, so it'll be one lifeskill in each in each book, and we are we won't, we won't. WE WON'T DIVE INTO WE WON'T, we won't dive into the basketball skillsper se with this that this will be more the life skill component, andwe even tie in a Bible, a Bible verse as well. So thisis solely you know, the nonprofit tries to tie in like twelve life skillswith twelve basketball skills and I've always been passionate about that. As far asyou know, a lot of times players may hear you know, of youknow, being unselfish, right, and everybody kind of knows what the wordon selfish means, but do they know what that means within the game ofbasketball? So that that's kind of tied in more with the with the nonprofit. This book series will solely be touching on the life skills and it'll beone, one life skill for with the with each book. That's fair.I feel like trying to cram twelve into a single book might be a littleambitious. So I think how you've let it out make sense. Do eachof you have a favorite life skill out of the well, a man,there's there's a lot of good ones. You know. I think probably onethat stands out to me is, you know, is the word, whetherit's coachable or teachable, right, and let's go with teachable for now.You know what when you're when you're when you're at a younger age, Ithink. I don't think people realize a lot of times that the one kindof person that we choose to listen to the least is the one that's actuallytrying to help us the most. And what I'm saying is is a lotof times, whether it's a teacher at school or one of your coaches,you know it, there's been a little bit of development in society where it'slike if a if a coach gets on you, or if a teacher,you know, correct you, it's you know, well, that's what that'swhat they do. It's it. You know, that's what that's what coachesdo. They yell at us. You know it's like. But as youget older, you realize that people that that teach her, people that coach, it's for the most part that their passion is purely and simply trying tohelp other people, you know. And so I think if we can,at a young age, get kids to you know, just to realize,and the reality is your kids only know what they see or what they're taught. Right when you come into the world with no knowledge of anything. Soyou the only thing you know is what you see or what you're taught.So if we can teach at a very young age that your teachers or yourcoaches, they're sole purpose is to help...

...you and bring the best out inyou and and create great habits and things like that, I think if ifwe, if this, if this book series, can do just that andjust allow kids to understand that being coachable or being teachable is an amazing lifeskill to have and it's something that could benefit you in so many amazing ways, I think. You know, I would pick that one as far asstanding out the most. I want about being humble. You know, humility. I think that's really really crucial, because that's one thing. I thinkit's true across many disciplines that if you go in with the humble attitude,you're going to succeed more, you're going to absorb the lessons of others betterand actually be that coachable person. You're going to also want others to risewith you, so you're going to be a good friend and you're going tobe, you know, grateful and thankful and you know, I really thinkpride can hurt somebody a lot, whether it's in athletics or just in anyfield or any even just life situations. So for me, I think that'sthe one that really stands out as a core principle that could change people's lives. Yeah, I also think resiliency is one of the pillars that, especiallythis year, I think can kind of speak to everyone and really kind ofresonated with me that we all have had to be so adaptable and so flexibleand so, you know, willing to change for the better, and Ithink of any age group, as Stacy said, whether it's sports or justyou know, general life. I think we could all do with building ourown resiliency and being flexible facing challenges like we've all faced this year. Ye, spot on with that. This has certainly been a year of resiliency fora lot of people and I think that ties in nicely with I would imaginein a quote unquote, typical year that your process of working together would probablylook a little different than it has this year. So can you kind oftake us through what has it been like to work with other people and puttinga book together during a pandemic? Stacy, we can start with you for thisone. Yeah, I mean it's amazing what you can do with thelaptop in the Internet, because that's what so much of this has been done. It's amazing. I mean, thank God for the technology we have.Yeah, it's been interesting, you know, doing everything remotely, but I thinkit's worked really well. It would be awesome if we could meet upand brainstorm in person and everything, but I don't I really don't think it'sbeen too difficult, you know, to do it this way. I meanit's awesome because when we're in three very different parts of the country and we'restill just able to meet and work together. So I think with writing, withpublishing and even my other industry, which is education, private education,for tutoring in college counseling, I've been able to kind of continue with thatwithout really skipping a beat. So feel very blessed because it's not the casefor most other professions. Yeah, definitely. Do you have a go to toolthat you found most helpful, or is it just kind of emails,hopping on Zoom, that kind of thing? I mean, facetime has been ablessing for sure. That's what I use probably more than anything, even, my Gosh, even just to see family members at this point. Sobut yeah, so I mean facetime and Google docs, where I mean Iknow even for our book, Maddie set up a Google doc for us withall the illustrations, all the text and everything, and it's just we canall be on there at the same time, we can leave notes for each other. I mean it's just been a great tool and that's exactly what Iuse with my students as well. So...

...we're fortunate to have that. Toyour facetime sessions also devolve at some point into playing around with all them Emoji. I'm not because I feel like all of my facetime stupid's some fun.You know. That did happen actually one of my students where it was likeI hadn't done the updates when I didn't even know that you could act,and all of a sudden his face turned into like this giant cow with likehard eyes and like what's going on, like you're suddenly account and he's like, Oh, I just did the update and yeah, that was that wasentertaining, but the no, that's nothing norm yeah, and Maddie, fromthe illustration side of things, what is your process like? You have likeare you given some instruction around what what to go for, or is itjust kind of you have the text and take it from there? Yeah,every project is different and I kind of have to eat. There's always thatkind of really awkward process of figuring everyone's working style out for the first fewpages and we really kind of have to read the room and see what worksand what doesn't. For this particular project, Google docs has worked really well.So, for example, a process would be, I would submit toBreton Stacy maybe three very very rough sketches on the Google doc and they cango in at their leisure make notes that, you know, I really like this, I really like this, let's add this and then just really andthen up and then I would upload a newer sketch and then colored sketch andthen, through every process I would have their feedback in real time. Yeah, which has been, as Stacy said, my process has been completely seamless.This is how I normally work, which is why I pursue this career. Get the pandemic. But yeah, we've all worked well with the GoogleDoc. We've all been really communicative and really it's been a sin really NiceNice. That's always always good to hear, rather than a pulling teeth story,which it doesn't sound like cute. You all have a problem with that. So that's awesome. And another element that I think is interesting is themarketing side of things because, again, pre pandemic there are events you couldgo to, conferences to attend where that's a very natural bring the book withyou, talk about it, interact with people, get them excited about it. But that's not really a thing we're doing. You know, virtual conferencesall over the place. A lot of things just getting canceled or postponed.So have you found any kind of unorthodox marketing tools as you're promoting the series? Mean I have actually two different PR teams now working for the publishing company, kind of like keeping me in the loop on what's been working what's not. One of one of them Vernica. She mentioned doing some you know,virtual conferences and stuff that we could plug into keynots keynote speaking, things likethat. There's been, you know, some magazine article, those newspaper articles, things like that, but it is I mean that facetoface contact, likethe idea of setting up a book signing or a book reading, you know, at the local barnes and noble and mean right now none of that stuffshappening. So it is it is different. But thankfully I do have, youknow, two different teams of people kind of working on that to figureout how we can take advantage of the situation and what works, but notwaste time on what isn't working. So that is a bit of a challengeright now. I wonder this just triggered something, but when I first movedto Austin and again this might not work super well in cold cities. Rightnow. But the I met someone who was a cab driver who just hadall these great stories with people and he...

...had learned from a friend of athing called Barstool poetry, where essentially there'd be a stack of Napkins and you'dcome over and write a title and then put them in a bowl and someoneelse would take the title and write a poem underneath and then he'd read someof his favorites throughout the night and I I always thought that was very entertainingand I feel like you could kind of work an outdoor book reading sort ofthing like that. You know, get some heat lamps, but spread peopleout nicely, just get a nice PA system to do the read I feellike you could make that, make that work, if there's not crazy amountsof snow everywhere. Yes, I and maybe Texas would be the place forthat. Maybe we'll come down to see you. Brett. Yeah, headover to San Diego, ride the elevator and it is perfect. Yeah,I know it is. I mean it is interesting just the adjustments, youknow, because of the pandemic and always not, you know, just notknowing if there's going to be another major lockdown and what's coming certainly a yearof uncertainty, but I mean thankfully working from home, I think has givenme a little bit more time in my day because I'm not commuting anywhere,and that time I've been able to invest in a lot of creative projects,and including this one, and really just the publishing company and building that upinto something that I honestly never imagined it would become that it's becoming. AndI honestly think that the pandemic has given creative people more time to work ontheir projects. So there's probably I'm getting more book submissions from other authors themI would have expected, and I think there's got a lot of people writingbooks this past year. So it's interesting. I do think everyone I know whois a creative person, whether it's, you know, with making homemade masksat home or, you know, drawing and writing songs, whatever itis, everyone's sort of been able to do that a little bit more thisyear because of covid absolutely. I know I finally finished my book, ashort story. So I am one of those many people that I have beenlike, you know what, I'm taking the extra time and I'm doing somestuff with it and of course that opens up an interesting question and Maddie,let's start with you for this one. But have you picked up any quarantinehobbies? See, this isn't a great quarantine hobby, but one of myabsolute favorite things in the world to do, other than drawing, is to travel. So I'm sitting here on my computer, when I'm not doing commissionsfor clients, you know, planning the next big getaway and these crazy extravaganttrips that I'm never going to be able before to go on, but dreamsare free, so I spend hours rinning itineraries on my computer. What's themost extravagant you've planned? I think the Maldives. That's one of the onlyplaces that's open right now and obviously I would not flight to the Maldives atthe moment, but that's one of those places where you've got to fly intoa major airport and take a charter plane. It's a whole process, but maybeone day. It doesn't look gorgeous. That's quite uninsteadable. It's study andit's like an all beach itinerary. So right, it's very out nolose. Brett. How about you? Have you picked up in a hobbiesduring the quarantine? Oh, man. I would just say I'm pretty muchbeen on on the my life's been on the run the last twenty six years, and the court the core life of being at home. I learned justhow women are, what wired much differently than men and are way tougher thanmen, because it meaning mothers, and mothers in particular, meaning when weget to just, you know, wake up in the morning and you know, we get to say, Hey,...

...we're going to work today or hey, I'm going on a five, five day trip to La and Phoenix andI'll be home in five day, and you know that now the mothers getstuck at home and it's seven. So my quarantine has been a revelation ofreality for just the amazing hard work that you know, my wife and obviouslymothers in general, you know, just do when, when, a lotof times we get to run around the country and chase our passions and thingslike that. So my days are up with the kiddies, cooking breakfast,to school lines, to pick up lines, to I don't know. Then allof a sudden the days over. So I can't really say I pickedup a hobby other than probably learned a little bit about more of the realworld that wives and mother's live in every day. Always good things to know, for sure, stacy. How about you are just just doing all thecreative things? Yeah, yeah, I've had a lot of a lot ofcreative projects. I guess one of the things that I've been doing now isI decided to open up another company. So I recently, just in thepast month, opened up an online shop. Actually a Maddie has a hand inthis too, and it's to help raise money for animal rescues. SoI have two long haired docksins, Briley and Baxter, and that's actually whothe publishing company is named after, as Briley and backster publications. But Ijust opened up the Briley and Baxter shop which fifty percent of the proceeds fromevery item go to a different animal rescue every month, and Baxter was arescue, so he's kind of the inspiration behind that. But what I didwas I built up the dogs following over the last few years on instagrams thatthey have, you know, over five thousand followers and you know, I'vemade amazing friends all around the world who are dog lovers through Instagram and fromthere I've met a lot of people that are involved with rescues. So we'vebeen able to team up with a couple different ones, the tiny tim onWhales Foundation for this month. They help dogs that suffer from Ivdd, whicha lot of docksins do because of their long spines. They help them,you know, financially, whether it's the need to a doggy will share orthey need surgery. So that's who we're donating the proceeds to this month.Next month I think it's going to be a rescue that's out of New York. Still working out the details for that. But the shop basically was Maddie's artworkas the huge part of it. So she drew a bunch of differentillustrations of Briley and Baxter dressed up for graduation, for Christmas, for Easter, I mean every holiday you can think of, and then I put thoseimages on items that range from t shirts and sweatshirts to masks, to mugs, to journals, to phone cases, to basically everything that dog lovers canbuy for a good cause. So that's kind of been my project. MyNew Hobby lately is just building up the store. Now I think there's overlike a hundred and eighty different items available. They're reasonably priced and it's on Etsy. It's called to cuddly docksins, which is what their instagram name alsois, and it's the Briley of Baxter shops. So yeah, that's probablymy latest hoggy. Next month I'll probably be something different. But this month, as a fellow, I have two dogs as one there each half docksand or at least partial, and I don't know what the twenty three inme, yeah, equivalent is. But yeah, Chiwawa docks and mix anda Jack Russell terrier and docks and mix...

...which apparently is called a jock shunnedokay, which I did not know. Feel ridiculous every time I say it, so I just try to go with the full breed names. But yes, they're wonderful dogs and that sounds like such a fantastic cause. And Iam going to look at the shop right after this because I want to seeall those illustrations. Yeah, Maddie did a great job. I mean Ihave friends now all over the world like ordering stuff, like they're posting picturesof things from like Finland, the Netherlands, British Columbia. I mean those illustrationsyou did and they're all over the place now on tshirts Wich. It'ssuper, super cool. I love doing a wating fantastic, fantastic. Nowone thing I always like to ask on this podcast is a question you wishyou were asked more frequently, and stacy, you provided the prompt for this one. That your faith is a big link between you and Brett. Sohow is faith central to both your life and your work? My faith iscentral to, I would say, every part of my life, but itreally became, I say, a navigating factor when I was this junior orsenior in college and I sort of reddicated myself to my faith after kind ofwalking away from it for a few years and realizing that there was so muchmissing when I wasn't walking and step with my creator. So once I turnedback to my Christian roots and really started just walking forward, God really startedjust showing me a lot more about myself and the gifts that he had givenme and that he had a very specific path for my life, which Idid not need to know an advanced but what I need to do is justtrust him with it and trust him to open all the right doors and shutall the wrong doors. As I continued to give him, give my willover to him. So after college I actually was working in architecture industry.That's what I had gone to school for, was architectural engineering and interior design,and I just felt like something was missing. It was weird because Ihad always loved design projects. I mean I really I literally had started drawinghouses, like interior floor plans of houses from I don't know when I waslike ten years old onward, and it certainly was a fun hobby for me. It was just when I got into the field there was a lack ofpersonal connection. I felt just kind of empty, just sitting behind the computerworking on I don't know, these big office plans from Microsoft's, you know, new Long Island office and stuff like that. I think I wanted tobe interacting with people a lot more than I was. So I started prayingfor good to just show me. I was like, I know you createdme to do something. I just know this isn't it, and you needto show me. I'll do anything. I'll go on the mission field,I'll go back to school, will like whatever it is you know, pleaseshow me. And at that time my Stepdad was really sick with pancreatic cancerand he had only been given three to six months to live, but hehad already, you know, lived past a year. And we're dealing withall that at home. So I opted to take a medical leave of absenceto help my mom take care of my Stepdad and in that time, youknow, really seek out God and pray about what he had for me andwhat his plan was for my career. And that is ultimately, through along series of events, that's what led me to the field of education,and what's so amazing about that is working as a tutor and a college counselor. I work every day with teens and that's what my books are about.My my other two book series, gripped and Montgomery, like hi, therefor teenagers and they basically educate kids about the perils of prescription drug abuse andother issue social issues like bullying and peer...

...pressure. It's done in a fictionway and hopefully and entertaining way, but it really just want kids to knowthat that is not what leads to fulfillment. So the fact that I get towork every day with teens and even take a bunch of them on hisinterns for my book series, it's just amazing how God work that together withme being able to work daily with my tended audience for the books that Iactually started writing when I was a teenager. So, you know, I wouldsay that I've come from, you know, the architecture industry and thengone on to education and literature, but it has been all because of myfaith and the direction that God has so clearly given me through divine appointments andjust things that you would call chance happenings, but they're so coincidental you know theycan't possibly be a coincidence and it's really just been an amazing avenue andI'm so fulfilled. I mean, I still remember what it felt like togo to work in Boston every day the architect firm and how empty I felt. And then now it's like I wake up every day and I can't believeI get need to do what I do because I just love it so muchand I just feel like I'm doing exactly what I was created to do,and that security and knowing that in the fulfillment that comes with that is justunmatched. So yeah, that's a long winded answer, but I try tosum it up this. It's it's really my whole life. Honestly, that'sa powerful feeling for sure. Brett, do you have anything to add?And that'd be hard. That's gonna be hard to time follow that. Butyou know what, all I can sum it up and again as just inthe way that stacy and I crosspaths. It had God's finger prints all overit. My nephew, David had had given to me a couple of stacy'sbooks. This was years ago, couple of years ago, and I ampart of a great church here in Houston, Lakewood Church, which is Joel Osteen'schurch, and they obviously have a great youth and young adult group aswell, and my good friend of mine is the leader of the youth andyoung adults at Lake with. His name is Nick Nelson. So my nephewgives me these books from a from a friend of his who happens to bestacy. I wind up taking the books to my friend at Lakewood and youknow, just said Hey, you know, keep these in mind if you guyswere looking for some books for the for the youth and young adults.And so fast forward a couple years later, which happened to be a couple monthsago, when I had that in my spirit about doing this series.I had remembered that David knew somebody that wrote Christian based Youth, Youth Book. So the moment it was in my spirit to do this, I waslike, man, I got to call I got to call David and getsee if it would be okay, if he could connect us. Well,David wound up calling me the day before and and I was at a dinnerand I said hey, Dave, can I call you? Can I callyou back it? So here it is. God had already had he already orchestrated. Before I was even going to reach out to stacy, it wasalready this thing was already all orchestrated. So when you when you get tothat point of understanding, you know there's the Bible verse about how God knowsthe end from the beginning and and he wired us from the womb. Youknow, I've been passionate about basketball my whole life and I think when youcan, you can get to that place of peace to say, okay,he's wired. He has wired each one of us with these unique passions,right whether for Maddie it's what her passion...

...is, or for Stacy with herpatther. They're all different, right, we we don't have we all weall don't have the same unique passion. But when you're able to recognize,like okay, what is this unique passion that he put inside of me,and when I come to peace with what that is, what can I nowdo to use that passion to be of service to other people or to helpother people? And in turn, can I lead? Can I wind upleading others to God through the passion that he put inside of me? AndI think that's what we're trying to do here with this series, and it'sbeen amazing working with both stacy and Maddie. But I think the whole purpose hereis, you know, can we impact lives, you know for thekingdom, and can we lead others to God and through this book series?And I think that's, you know, that's what's most important for me withthis project. I'll only add that I think the storyline for on the rightpath is just it's simple, it's beautiful, it's poignant in a way that willspeak to families of every faith. Bret's mission to write the story andStacy's words, which bring it to life, are deeply rooted in their love oftheir faith and a love of God and I think that's a wonderful thing. And, as I always do on the show, ending with the topthree, because everyone loves a good list. And Brett, you've got more thana quarter century of coaching experience. So can you distill this down toyour top three coaching moments? Wow, that's that's that's tough. I willsay this. My dream was always to get to the NBA as a coach. I get to the NBA twelve years ago and my first year with theEuston rockets, we get to the Western Conference semi finals and we're playing againstthe Kobe Bryant led Los Angeles Lakers. We took them to a game seven. We wound up losing eventually in the game seven and the Lakers wild allgoing on and beating the Celtics to win the championship. So I think thatstands out number one, just as far as a kid, you know,growing up outside of Philly, Philadelphia, and you know rooting for the sixersas a kid and having the opportunity to get to the NBA A and fillmy dream. And here it is, you're playing the Lakers. So thatstands out of the number one number two again, growing up in the Philadelphiaarea. That the the heated rivalry was with stacy's, now Boston Celtics,and one of the great players on that team was a guy by name ofKevin McHale. So it was Larry Bird, Kevin McHale and Robert Parrish. Theywere the the original big three at the time. And so here itis, I'm a kid again growing up in Philly. I'm watching the sixersplay against the Celtics and Kevin mcale was this dominant player. And if somebodywould have said, you know, twenty five years from now, you're goingto be coaching, you're going to be on a coaching staff with that guy, I mean you can't even make that stuff up. So I think thesecond moment would just be all the great coaches that I've worked with, butin particular a guy that I grew up watching as a hated Boston Celtic guy. Now I'm I'm on his staff, coaching, Coaching Him, coaching withhim. And I think the third one. You know, a couple of yearsago I was fortunate to be a part of a great Houston rocket team. We won sixty five games, which was the most in the franchise's historyand we had the opportunity of coaching in the Allstar game. I was anassistant. The head coach was Mike Dant onny and again, for just aregular simple kid from outside of Philadelphia to be to be coaching in the Allstargame and to be around just the greats,...

...the greats of the game, thatthat was an incredible moment that I'll never forget. That it's super cool. I have two quick follow up questions. Number One, have you told KevinMcHale that you disliked him growing up? Oh, for sure. First ofall, chemicals. He's one of the greatest guys in the world.I mean just an amazing, amazing guy. But the funny thing is, andStacy and Maddie'll think this is disgusting, but he, Kevin McHale, wasa it was a how do you say? Had A lot of hairon his body, let's put it that way. And and he was aguy that's sweated a lot. So my memory of him as a kid,but he would always whenever there was a stoppage of play, he would kindof yell to the ball boy like hey, tell me it's out so the guywould throw him a towel and he wiped his armpits and he wipe allover and then he like fired back to the kid and he would do thisthroughout the course of the game. And and back in the s they wouldalways wear that. They were wearing the short shorts. So it was likeshort shorts, Harry, Harry, body sweating all over and I'm like,this guy's, this guy's what I you know, he's out of his mind. And then again here it is, I'm sitting there coaching with them andhe's an amazing guy, just a great, great person. So yeah, Idefinitely told him and he didn't even have to he didn't even have toask because if you if you grew up, if you're a celtic, you knowI mean. Thinking about this, the sixers and the Celtics. Theythey're infamous for there was a fight between Dr Jay, who is the greatplayer from the Sixers, and Larry Bird. So there was a fight during agame, okay, where they fought each other. Well, people,most people fail to realize is they fight took place in a preseason game.That's how much. That's how much those teams hated each other. You know, they were just so I don't think Kevin McHale was at all surprised thatthat. I hated watching him growing up. I've seen footage of that fight before, but I didn't think I knew it was in a pregreeve season game. Pre but but you know, Michael made the interesting point when you whenyou play in the same conference, you know you play it multiple times duringthe year. Then they played in the playoffs year after year. You knowso and then so by the time you know that it got around the preseason, you know you've now played this team. You know, just like, forwhat with us with the rockets, we've played golden state, what threefour of the last five years into seven games series is then you put youon. That's on top of playing them four times during the you know youafter five years you've played the team thirty times. So that that's where thehatred just gets built up. So fantastic. Yeah, it's it. The moreyou see someone, it's kind of like it definitely in festers a littlebit there. And then my second question, and many stays. You can feelfree to hop and if you have a favorite as well. But youmentioned the Allstar game. Always love the dunk contest, do it during it. Do you have a favorite dunk from an NBA dunk contest? Well,you know, it's it's very interesting you say that. So when I wasin college, I graduated from you, I graduate from U and Olv andthe Oreur best player at that time was a guy by name of Jr rider, who also went by the name Isaiah Rider. But when he was awhen it was his last year at Unov, he used to come into practice everyday and he would do this. He was from Oakland and he woulddo it Dunke. It was called the East Bay funk Dunk, something likethat, and it's you go up, you jump up in the air andyou put it through one leg, you bring it around, you dunk it. And he was like hey, guys, just so y'all know, I'm goingto I'm going to win the dunk contest on this dunk next year.And sure enough, the next year he won the dunk contest on this dunk. It was his final, final dunk and it was the East Bay funkdunk and we were we were like wow, this guy used to just he'd walkinto practice or he walking after class.

He'd have jeans on and he justmean he was just unbelievable athlete and and player as well, but youknow he would do it like it was nothing. And then here it is, fast forward a year later. You went to dunk contest on it.So that's probably the one that stands out the most and certainly the best nameaim for a dunk. I think, Oh yeah, he's very funk stacy'reMaddie, do you have a top dunk from your memories to go I wouldtake not. I was going to say how many? How many dunk contestshave you watched? And can't say I have a favorite. No comment.I started a basketball and pop culture newsletter this quarantine as well, and Idid an article on some of the most underrated dunks and just one that Ithink is so goofy was Dwight Howard sticker dunk. I think a lot ofpeople remember the Superman Dunk, but he did a dunk the year before werehe it was kind of a normal dunk but he reached up and put asticker of his face at the top of the backboard and then like got outa tape measure to show that it was like twelve and a half feet offthe ground and it's just like this is so ridiculous but so creative, soI had to had to applaud it. I'm all for the silly factor indunk contest. Well, we can get off the basketball talk and Y'all areofficially off the hook for this podcast interview. Thank you so much for taking thetime to chat and walk us through the whole back story behind this book, how you all have been working together and looking forward to all of thereleases down the line. If people want to order a copy or learn moreabout the book, about all of Y'all, where can they go? Um,well, once the book is available for sale, will be a lotof announcements on the publishing website, which is just www dot baxter bookscom andI'm sure right on your website, for on the right path, you'll probablyhave a link to it too. Right, yeah, that's and that's on theright path. Dotnet. Perfect, perfect, Maddie, do you wantto give a plug for your portfolio? Or if people are in need ofan illustrator worse, you can find me at Maddie Moore, M Addymore,one word dot art. All of my socials are on there and my portfoliosthere for anyone of you. You can send me a message right from there. fantastics. We've got Acom, dotnet and a dot art. I likeit. Is the most part married. Yes, no, I love it. I love it. Well, fantastic. Thank you again for popping on.This was so much fun and at a good people cool things first herewith three guests on one show. I think we nailed it. Well done. All right, thank you, thank you. Thank you so much really, and of course we'll end with a corny joke, as we always do. How do you organize a party in space? How you plan it?People definitely repeating that one.

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