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Episode 49 · 10 months ago

Online Entrepreneurship and Digital Nomads with Omar Mo

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Omar Mo is the founder of Nomadables and the host of The Nomadic Executive podcast. He helps online entrepreneurs that want to escape the daily grind of a 9 to 5 job and live a life of freedom and purpose. Centered around health, wealth, and wisdom, Omar uses life lessons he’s learned from his own experience and other experts across the world to empower people to live their best lives. Now it's your turn!

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Welcome the good people cool things,the PODCAST, featuring conversations with entrepreneurs, writers musiciansand other creatives when Omarmo was just eighteen years old, he had no ideawhat he wanted to do in life. He was thrown into school without a clearsense of direction because you know most of us don't know what we're doingwhen we're only eighteen years old, but less than ten years later, Omaras builtup several income streams through freelancing, investing and onlinebusinesses, and today he's the founder of no matables and the host of thenomatic executive podcast. He helps online entrepreneurs that want toescape the daily grind of a nine to five job and live life of freedom andpurpose centered around health, wealth and wisdom, Omar uses life. Lessonshe's learned from his own experiences, but he's also chatted to all kinds ofexperts from across the world and hes sharing some fantastic knowledge inthis episode were covering the power of repurposing content, WHA, it'simportant to have processes in your business and how to set those up andsome of our favorite travel destinations. This episode of goodpeople, cool things is presented by fiver. The place to go for all kinds ofcreative freelancers find your next logo design. Video Article Boat Cover,whatever you need created by super impressive people from all over theworld, get Sert of her as little as five dollars at Fivercom or, if you'dlike to support the show head over to the good people cool things merch shop,which you can visit right here on the good people, cool thingscom site. Ifthat's Howyour, listening to the PODCAST, if you're listening on yourphone, just o Heveer do good people cool thingscom, pick up shirts, hoodies,hats, mugs, I'm drinking out of my. If only this were wine Mug as I'mrecording this, it's not mine. I know if only it were, make everything muchbetter. Your support helps keep this show going strong for now. Let's hopinto our conversation with Omar is the quick overview of people? Don't knowwho Omarmo is give us your elevator pitch, but I'd also like to hear theelevator were on while you're giving this pitch the elevator were on. So should I turn on some elevator musicon my phone? If you, if you'd like yeah I'd, love the atmosphere, interesting okay, we'll see what I got here, yeah actually like something weirdabout me. Is I like to listen to a lot of classical music? Only when I'mworking, though it is good working music, it isohhehere's, something that I like. It's a pretty intense elevator. I think my name is Omar. I have been a digital nomad for nearlythree years. I run my own podcasting agency and Ihave my own podcast called an namatic executive. I love all things: Travelall things marketing and digital octric ineership. I love the freedom of being able towork from real laptop from anywhere in the world and because of that, ive diedreally really deep into that entire space build my own business fonit and that's what I'm all about now andmy future plans are to travel the world for the next seven eight years, workingoff my laptop visiting places and having experiences, because there'snothing that gets me going more than a really spontaneous adventure or anexperience, whether good or bad. To be honest, that's just different than your averageday today. Life love in and the first one with withelevator music. So thank you for her. You go that extra atmosphere. Theredefinitely want to get into some of that traveling. But first you mentioneda podcasting agency which meanwe've talked about how podcasting in generalis still a pretty new thing. Now, there's full agencies for podcast. Howdid you decide that this? This was the...

...way to go. Well, I didn't want to go ina fully sasturated place right and before W I had even started my agency.I started my podcast and I knew it was an unt like relatively not new, mediumbut relatively underutilized medium. So I think the first podcast this cameout somewhere around the twohousands. I remember listening to a Jordan,Harrorbiger harbinder show where he was talking about how the first podcastYuhoul would just be text directories and you have to know the specific exactname of the podcast before you could even find it, and there were, like,maybe eight different, shows under the entrepreneurship category, which isinteresting to what it is evolved now. But it's still very underutilizedbecause the number of podcast out there just reached a million versus likeyoutube channels, which is like somewhere, aound, thirty seven millionnow so I knews an underutilized medium, and I knew the power that it had behindnot only converting clients but throughnetworking, through engagement through the type of very super fan audience that you tend to getwhenever they listen to your podcast, like there's so much potential therethat was under utilized for businesses and businesses. A lot of businesses outthere, they're tired they focus on their business right, they're, neverfocus on their digital marketing strategy and everyone. A lot ofbusinesses, especially if they've, never done any sort of digitalmarketing. Before tend to think that Oh yeah post, some content on social mediaand Ni'll get some traffic on my on M my business and that's how I'll gainclients you know, and it never works that way because there's no funnelbehind it. So I realized how great a PODCAST was for up to middle funnel,because it's your own show in the listeners that you get are your onmisleads and the people that you bring on to the show are people that you caneven convert to clients which is happend to me and happened on my show afew times. So I realized tha power behind that that it can be a pretty bigmarketing driving force for certain types of businesses and for what I sawas BTB and stas companies. Those two do really well with it. So I was like okay, I'm going to fillthis need, but before I did that I found I did some competitor researchand, of course, there's already people out there doing it, but they did it in a very in a scalled sense where I was juststarting off right. An did a more personalized way and I added the wholecontent repurposing to it, and social media scheduling added alittle few few different things to it, where also helped them build theirfunnel between the podcast Te, social mediand, their email list and the in egroups. So I don't know a little bit of services in that space and that'sthat's really when it started going off yeah. So that's what it is now to a lotof COL OT reach that my business was born, fantastic, fantastic, and I wantto talk a little bit of the content repurposing element of this, because Ithink so many people and and companies to they start a podcast and their wayof promoting. It is dropping a link. Maybe telling people to subscribe,leave a rating and that's it. It's tost like here's, the link post on socialmedus and an email, that's it! But there's so much more! You can do withyour content promotion. So how or with your podcast promotion is say so whatkind of repurposing have you seen work best or that you recommend businesses?Try so concept re purposing? You can create content for literally any platform,even Tik talk and snapshat those kind of platforms that you think, will youwun to be able to make content from a podcast, but you can you can repurposethe audio video from your podcast and put it natively on these, like seven,eight main social media platforms- pincrest, I think, is the one possiblythat I'm still experimenting with so trying to figure that out, but Iknow it's possible because you can make graphics and visuals throug it NSO.What it helps with is one the organic reach that you can get from.Platforms well drive an initial spike...

...of influxif listeners if they'reinterested enough in your content right, but what I've also realized is withpodcasts. The listeners tend to be people that are already listening topodcast right. Like ninety percent of your audience. Ninety five percent ofyour audience be other podcast listeners that have subscribe to otherpodcast already right. So the key is targeting people that are alreadylistening, the podcasts now through instagram. You can do thiswith hashtags certain hashtags t tick tolk. You can do that with mean. You can literally make theAlgorithm go in your favor of targeting podcast listeners so that there'salways podcast on your feet and your targeting podcast listeners through through different mediums. Youcan t through facebook groups, for example, you can go into facebookgroups that are podcast centric, where podcast listeners hang out and post iton there. You know so the way that I'm content with purposing is that I'mcreating the content from that audiom and video, and that is like I, a keystatistic that I like to say is that you can keep about or create aboutfifteen pieces of content por audio hour. So the way we do that it we fi we find,and I'm going to run my process here. First, okay, the process is findingfifteen pieces of golden nuggets in that podcast cutting them dowt and then taking thecontent from it. Whether it was words whether it's a video cliform, whetherit's an audiogram wher there, some sort of conceptual graphic, whether it's tomean taking the information from thatpodcast and making it into content right where a lot of people are alwaysstuck on making content is not the design process of it. It's actuallytrying to come up with the information about something that hasn't alreadybeen set: ont, the Internet and stuff and yeah. I can go on Google search andprobably copy a blog post and just convert that into content as well right,that's possible! But this way it's your own information,your own voice behind it Lik. If you go down, my instagram you'll see videoclubs in my face and me saying something that that was profound inthat episode or my Aud, my guest, saying something that was profound inthat episode. SOTAT, that's the way that I usecontent, re purposing and then I make sure it gets in front of the eybols ofninety five percent of podcast listeners and then the five percent.Maybe that want to convert two podcast listeners N to be down theroad or something because we are moving more towards audio dominate medium, so five percent that woul dowant to listen to podcasts. That's where we purpose the content andput it natively on my own facebook, group or or instagram or to Tako River,and see what I can get there. That's what I do for content withbreakesin. Do you we're getting a little future thinkinghere? But do you see either this year or in the comingyears? Is there a platform that you want to experiment more on, or is therea type of platform you'd like to see that you think would be really valuablefor repurposing that content, something that I've been talking about right isclub Ouss and you can't repurpose content forclubhouse, because it's a live audio platform.It's almost like podcasting, almost live audio. You can't you're, notposting content or anything just your own voice, but something that I find issipily. CLUBHOUSE is they're going to add a recordingfeature to it and it's funny. Tey have these town holesevery week. The creators of the pot other APP t have ton house every weekand they': Ask questions to people see how they can fix the at more and makeit better it's interesting and in one of those town halls they talked aboutrecording feature and I'm thinking about recording some of the clubhouseconversations and repurposing that into content for social media or for mypodcast. So there's going to be synergy between those three, I think so in. Ifuture saying I think in the next six to twelve months. I think that APP isgoing to be there's going to be a lot of peoplethat pop up say: Hey, let's,...

...let's be agencies that we purposecontent from club house to post on other social media platforms, or let's be someone that helps cubhousecreators get their word out there more. You know, I think it's Goingno be spread alongside of podcasts, but Ithink the key will always still be trying to get clubhouse users to othermediums like your podcast, like your website and or your community, likeyour facebook group yeah, just from from hearing you describe it, it doesseem like there's a lot of potential there and already a lot of great thingshappening and, like you were saying, clubhouse users, maybe even a hundredpercent of them- are podcast listeners as well because feel like, if you're,if you're interested in a platform like clubhouse you're, probably interestedin audio mediums in general. So that's a great again that buried entry isalready gone. ITIT WULD be interesting to see how thefuture puts podcast against clubapps right, because I clubhouse becomeswidely widely utilized. Then, what's stopping somebody from being at the gymand just plugging their earphones and listening to clubhouse conversations.The only thing that I could see that stop them is that clubass conversationsare it always the most directed m? Sometimes YEU are but sometimes yhoy'renot, and it also involves an they're not always playing all thetime. Their livestream, rather than on demand, so there's an instantgratification part of having a podcast, and I think also if they like somebodyenough like a specific host of a room, then they'll find them on anotherplatform like a podcast. So I think that's the synergy between it, but I don't know where it's going to go interms of where podcasts are going to be versuswhere club house is going to be, because I don't think clubouse would besomething for someone, that's very busy all the time you know yeah yeah, especially if they're unknown.They have a personal brand, it's probably great for you, but if theydon't already have a personal brand, ind, probably wondn't be the like you're, probably better offstarting a podcast and yeah, then because at least it'll be around. Itwon't just disappear in the air. At this point, there's no archive, so that's my viewl onnhing bullesy yeah.It's still such a a new platform. I remember reading something a couple who knows t at this point what whattime means anymore, but a couple weeks ago or so of you know it was one ofthese drastic headlines of Woll Club House, kill podcasting and I thinkthere's there's room for both, but you never know I mean sometimes sometimesthese bioms come over and really really change things and take out somesome other stuff, while they're at it so it'll be interesting to see for surewith podcast, like F, you think about it. Y subscribe to, I fow shows you'relooking for some specific people and that's who you're listening to, whereasclubous is kind of made it almost ike instagram right where it's you're swiping an what event looks goodto me. What's the title of the event that really stands out to me and who'sin the event from what I can see the key players in the event, if it's somename that you know already, then you pubbly join the run. So if you're ableto, I think, build social media following on anotherplatform and then Fanlipe that on the club house, where you can kind ofengage with your community, I think there's a synergy between that. I thinkthere's a synergy between getting somebody from club House andhaving them. Listen to your podcast, because with podcaft you're doing oneon one interviews about a specific topic, and it's not just something that you can just kind of putin and play in the car play while you're at the gym play whire you're working, you know,that's you can't do that. Where you're doing clubouse were really, you can't take advantageof it to the fullest degree. You know because this live stream, so I don't know be interesting to see. Ireally don't know...

...where it would go, but it does show onething right: the world is moving towards more audiodominant media, and that is for certain and soon we'llhave series and houses soon will have google voice like in your ceiling. Youknow it just everything's going to be so audiodominant. Now I be excited to see o the next tenyears ago. By with this absolutely yeah were, I feel like we'realready seeing some of this. I have an echo dot and it turned on in a roomwhere no one was, and I'm just like, does my voice carry all the wayupstairs like that, because I'm not a I'm, not a fat. If that's the guess, yeah well, we'll see a lot more of itmoving forward for sure I want to go back a little bit to podcasting in general, where you're,primarily working with businesses, an helping them create podcast. You talk alittle bit about how that differs from an individual wantingto start their own podcast and what kind of strategy is needed behind abusiness starting one sure so, one of the biggest things for businesses- and this is why I deal specifically wouldbe to Bein Sasse- is on a podcast episode. You canactually bring a guest on in the context of a podcast episode andI haven build a relationship with them over the next thirty minutes. Twentyfive minutes: Forty five minutes, however long you decide to make theepisode and then at the end of that episode, you can go for a close. You can close deals through the podcastmedium, so it's like setting up meetings and everyone, and I'm sure youknow this too. Everyone wants to be on a podcast like you, reach out to peoplecold emails, COL DMS, whatever and ninety nine percent of the time thut'lbe like. Oh, yes, I'd love to be on the PODCAST, even if you're completelyhaveknown as a podcaster, whereas, if you're reaching out to the same peopleand saying hey, how are you doing you want to connectover this or hey? This is my services. Are you interested forty thirty percent conversion rateson that? Ninety nine percent of people hop on your podcast. If you're reallytargeted with who you're getting your podcast guest on you build thatrrelationship with them for forty five minutes, I've had people asked me, Heywoit that me veen going for the closhe. Hey could could you set up a podcastfor US or hey? Could you make some social media content for us or hey,like you know, trying to convert me a or make themselves te client of Mine Wor? If not, then, at the end of it belike hey. Look like, for example, O be to be companythat, let's say sells marketing services to another company right atthe end, say hey like so at the end of your forty five minute talk, you say:Hey Look IV, looked through your social media platforms and stuff and Fre YourBusiness and, like I just think, there's so much you're, not utilizingthat you could be. You know, and this what I think Blah Blah Blah Bah Blahlike. Would you be interested in my help it all with it? And then you cantalk pricing what not later, but it's so easy to build that relationship andconvert them in TA client. So that's one thing that businesses can do thatpeople that are individual, podcasters, probably won't lean towards or ever doyou know like. I would never do that on my podcast because I don't Sell Ulass OStart Selling coaching services and I decide to bring on somebody. That'snever been a digital, nomad before that's interested in becoming a digital,no mad, but that's just not what my show to caters to you know my showcater should just bring value to my audience. So that's one. So I call I didn't dub the name, butit's called like content. Networking think that's what it's called O. that'sone thing I could do number two how it helps businesses. Is You push the same content so businesses?Usually, if they're making overtmk revenue a month, they have an emaillist of some kind built up some sort of audience built up: Okay, just fromusers or just from people that e use their business or anything they havesomething built up. They can push the episodes to theiremail and you'll have start getting a slowman enough of an audience on yourpodcast that you c convert those podcast listeners nand have a warm connection with them,...

...because every week they'll start tuningin bt. But, like I said, you want to putharget podcast listener, specifically right, so people that don't listen to t podcastmight start listening the podcast people that already listen to thepodcasts one of the other things that I do is I do. I get them on a lot ofpodcast swaps, so just by having their own podcast to be able to target asubsect of the audience that isn't on other platforms as much ans. There'sthat advantage what else the content creation from it.So for businesses, it really helps having content on other platforms, soit helps them with the top of funnel so of audio. One video podcast isliterally the easiest way, in my opinion, to repurpose and createcontent other more than anything else right, so it helps them on that regard.Er theier, other social media platforms are covered and they have something fortop a funnel there, so they can get eyebalts in is third job to engage withpeople, but the reganic reach that they get on that platform. We can then movefrom the top of the funnel to somewhere further in to maybe their podcast. As amedium or maybe their facebook group, or maybe their email list, you knowmaybe a lead magnet. You know so we'll create a social media strategy on thetop of the funal for them that they can utilize and create or the content theycan get from their their podcast. That's one one more purpose and enfinal purpose here is transcriptions right, ASEO purposes. So just on my podcast alone, for example,I have I have about nearly fifty five episodes out now and on my website. AllI do is post transcriptions and looking at my Alexic page rank it's higher thanmost of these websites that have like forty back links and like consistentblockboasts right. I've got my Lexo page. Rek is somewhere around the fortyfive thousand mark in the US, which is insane compared to like another website.I was checking out, which is a blog and has about forty one black backlinks theother day, and it's got forty one back links and I I think it had like a blockpost every month, or so they were ranked about a hundredseventy thousand in the US. A So transcriptions help immensely withSEO so businesses that are trying to get ranked higher on Google just forsimple SEO purposes: The transccription self, so there's a couple differentways that we tackle how to help businesses with ourservices with the PODCAST NEC yeah. That's such a great pointabout about transcribing too it's an easy thing to do, but often overlookd,exactly d. We take it all off their hands because these guys are reallybusy right. They're, not they might no have the budget for a massive marketingteam. They might not. Maybe the MARKETIING team is overextended, so we take care of while the editing for scribing contentrepurposing posting taking care of the Funwel, giving them email templates topush that episode. All of that we do all of it for them Nice! It's! It is pretty amazing whenyou can give people back time like they're willing to pay for that,and I know I certainly am as well and I'm like, if you can help me, take offthis thing that I don't really like doing, and it's still helping me and my business like yes, count mein for that absolutely we do have plans on scaling to just offering services aswell to podcasters that already just with Ar Editing d transcribing, youknow standard Swedif services, there content re purposing, which we can doas well, but we're not talking to podcastersjust yet. I think that's a little bit further down the road. It's nice andone other thing that I just heard about this week from someone in we had beentalking before about private and kind of internal communications, podcasting,where you might just make a podcast for your employees or for people in asmaller network, and they were saying that an added benefit that I had never eventhought of before case studies. You can have your current clients on as a guestand what they say on a podcast is public domtemony. Rable to yeah you'reable to pull from that and be like hey...

...look what clienx sat about us and usethat in your outreach, whereas if you were trying to put out a press releaseor a case study, sometimes they're like I don, I don't think we can talk aboutthat like we can't do that. Much like you're saying everyone wants to be on apodcast, so it's a great way to to get that word of mouth without having to gothrough like eight or nine pieces of red tape. It's essentially reframingthe everything. That's like testimonials retention sales. I framing all of thatin the context of giving value to an audience on a podcast, whereas peoplewill be turned off by it on your website or something or hey. This isanother product for Meu to buy in the terms in the context of a podcast yougiving value to your audience, but at the same time, interviewing people thatare in their ears, saying hey. This PROUC is good or there's another e waythat you could use it right. This is some thing we would do quite quiteoften for our clients with subscription models, whether it s service, pace orsomething else, h, ettention right, we get their current clients onder thepodcast help them build that relationship with them. In retentionrates, increase from twenty to fifty percent, sometimes of that clientstaying on board longer out of Flipside, you have an audience.Thos, listeningto t this person on the podcast tosterts to the testimonial. AThei retention rates are higher with that specific person and your audiencemember might be able to relate to that specific person and may be curiousabout the surfices of the distnesce as well. There's so many different anglesto hit it from yeah it's so it's just so so manyoptions out there like you're saying and talk more from the business side ofthings. I was like asking this: What's something that surprised you aboutrunning a business? I think it dusupplies specifically to digitalbusinesses, something that surprised me was how the resources that are so available tous across social media email website. Ol of these, how easy it is to actually create a business modelfrom just purely digital resources, because my entire life, I was broughtup thinking that breaking moreroor businesses are the way to go, or you know like manufacturing, or I meanall these different industries, but I never realized how you could create anentire business just through your laptop and then have it in such a way that it can evenskill- and you know in offers and there's digital services and stuff. Sothere's an entire industtry behind the laptop, and I think that's whatsurprised me like. Digital businesses now businesss itself, it'sit's aprocess, and that's really what I realize it's business is processedbased and at first, when it starting business, you are just trying to wing it. You knowand see what works. What doesn't at different points, ind sure everyone'sbeen there just like kind of drifting their way through, not knowing whatthey're doing. But then you realize that, as you push the process in the systems inplace- and you start to figure out the pipeline of Your Business and how toremove bottle nexks from the correct places and how to tune the businessmodel up to become more streamlined as you stream one that process equivocally, your revenue goes up and you spend less time on it than youautomate it, and it's didn't realize how processdependent a business really is until I really doe it, and I had and work on mybusiness a lot. You know, it'Sif you get down the the better youget down the process, the better you get down to the system of the business. The more revenue you'll make thehappier you'll be the better. The business will do you know and it people business owners...

...tend to I've. Seen this a lot of brick andmortir businesses right, they just there's so many variables that theytend to just oit's working to let it keep orking, not really going to try toimprove it in any way. But you've got to look at every single part of thesystem. From the beginning to TBE end, once you get to a certain rarevenuepoint and start removing bottle n next and streamlining things, and that'sthat's what Somei big that I realized process have you found, and maybe youkind of touched on this with the oh: it's working, fine, I'm not Goingna,I'm not going to mess with it, but have you found kind of consistent bottlenexks in this process when you're viewing for businesses? Definitely, Ithink, there's always bottln next to be removed. Right. I don't know where theend is you n hones I mean you can streamline. You can streamline it asmuch as you possibly want, and then you've got a scale at some point andyou can always scale bigger rigt. There's no end to the scale of whereyou can take a businesss so sit's, it's like a fine tune betweenscaling and then moving the Bout renick and find to scale ind, remove thebottle Neks, something that I've heard it it's just better to scale to likeStuvin figures. First before we start removing boctle next, but I thinkbecause I have a more system processed based personality. Not structured justmore systemic that I like to Drim a botternexkt along.I the way so that it's trame Linsit, because I don't want to scale massively.I don't want to become a corporation where sucks my life away. You know Ijust want to become happy with e amount that I'm making and be able to traveland stuff. So, yes, I can easily, at least at thispoint Li for exame. I was working at Dayjobfor a while, and there were so many botble necks in their system what theywere doing, there's so much and they were so like hey. I just want to behinds off like I have a family, and I just don't want to be that involved inthe business that they never took the time to actually remove thosebottlenecks, but then again they family and I'msingle right. So I could be like Oh yeah, like I, it's easy, TOR move, thesspotter! Next! Just do this! Just do that yeah! I can easily see the bottom nexts.Another businesses, as well as my own, you know, and removing a bottle O neck takes time,takes reresources tix takes money, you know, and you mayht not always havethat on hand. You know, but at the very least it takes time andpeople are always tried to staye time and streamlind themselves and just even removing ballennexfrom my ownbusiness. It's a matter of doing it enough firstto see what the bottle next NOCKK is exactly the pin pointed, and then it'swhat do I need to do to remove it? How much time is it going to take me? Is itworth removing right now at this very moment, or should I do it later on? Isit significantly impacting my business if it isn't, and what thing you noticed that a lotof people, including myself, wait till the last minute to really remove that abottle neck where it ecomes from a Bottlenak to like a freaking splinter nTe sidio business younow. So it's there's a lot of costs benefit ananalysis that you really have to do at different points of your business islife but don't become complacent. That's themain thing right, because the momen you become complacent, you an becomeblindsihted, but one of these bottln next in your entire process fallstopart you mentioned getting time back and howremoving some of these can give you some time, and it made me think of allthe ways that I waste time during a day. So I'm curious: what's your favoritetime, wayster my favorite time wayster? Yes, I am a sucker for movies, one I love being with friends, even thoughI haven't seen some in a while Poe ising years. Actually, but social lifedies a little bit whenever you have a a business, but that's a trade up anddefinitely ing to make.

I love that I love walks. I love walk.I don't know why, but I just love like going around outside somewhere near theocean and doing that travel. I wouldn't call that a time waster though it'skind of Li. How do you define a time waster well for for me, my firstthought was playing the game among us, which Ha has taken over a few lives ofmy friends and every time I play I I'll say out loud, I'm like all rightI'll. Just do a couple rounds, itw'll be like thirty forty five minutes andthen it's like two hours later and tick talk. I mean it's fun. Yeah yeah, it'sExactl for your des, like you're, still having fun with it. But then you lookat the clock and you're like Oh, no massive man. They are it's mean it's not a bad thing right, it'ssomething you relax yeah, so I think there's a purpose even behind time.Wasu, you know definitely used to do it more. Maybeabout a year ago than I have now. It's trid stream lining my entire life. Youknow there's just there's this quote that I Hav on a board. Binan sayselfdiscipline equals freedom and I'm always trying to tocoming from somebody that wasprobably the most undisciplined person in the world two years ago to where Iam now is jhust a feat in it. So but I'm always constantly trying to pustowards self discipline, and that is little things like not buying junk foodand leaving it in my house so that I can vinge on it or putting ticktolk away on the deeprecesses of my phone so that I don't have to look at it. You know- or you know like things like that, justand keeping that quote on my board, just keep it in mind. So I try not to I try these time wasters. I try to keepthem in a way where they're actually benefiting me like helping me relax orwhatever else nice yeah and I think a walk. Is I'm a huge fan of walks aswell? I think theyrtheire great way to Clearr head get fresh air get exercise.I had a guest on that said she wrote an entire book while walking. She wouldjust leave voice memos to herself and then went through and like translatedin- and I was like- that's that's fantastic. I I often listen a Poncastle,I'm on a walk. I have noticed, if M, if I'm out wearing a mask because of thepandemics still going on it's, I get less crazy eyedstairs frompeople, because, if I'm laughing it's under the mask- and I can't tellwhereas prior be catling to myself- with with no context going on so peopleare just like that guys, Aluni tune nowyou've talked about how you love totravel and you'r. you're doing this so that you can have a happy life. Cantravel can can see the different spots of the world, so I lways like to wrapup with the top three and I'm gonna. Let you choose your own adventure. Youcan either do your top three places, you've traveled to or your top threeplaces that you haven't been to yet that are on your list. Thank okay sugust. Those to I kind of want to to do. Both people dodo both well make itg a top six. It's fine yeah, okay, cool top three places. I havebeen number one. I my I love this place:Sydney, Australia, just love that place. It's a perfectmix between city life and beach life with small different areas like towns.Almost that you can explore if you want the right fibe of having a nice homyplace that is really busy. You HAV that there, if you want this Nice Beach,vibe of just like beach bombs shilling at the beach all day, you have, if youwant a luxurious vibe of just being at a house, a mansion at the endof a cliff watching, thes sen, set right across the ocean. You have that,like it has everything that I want from a place. That's what I love Sydney PlusTas, a bing. Australian women are some of the most beautiful women in theworld, so that always helps Sydney. So number two...

...topplace I've been is another one.Actually, no Lake Wanica in new Setealand, so Lake Wanika is probably the mostbeautiful Lake I've ever seen, and it has it's a very like ski snowboardingtown, but what's great about it, is it's andI' actually got a tattooed on on my arm war. It's just yeah, it's BeautifulLake and it's glaciers, mountainous glaciers, everywhere- and I don't know it just looks sopicturesque like something you'd find in Google images and there's little skilodges and Bars Across where the lakes are, and you can just go in there andlook at the window. And you see this just pictjuresque place. It's beautiful, SOS number, two and number three, I would say to behonest, Itd, be in Montana it's a long, rhethe Ontanna. It was near, yellow stone. It was the grandteetons I think somewhere around there here. There was this place that I wentto it's not an exact place, but that entire area is really really beautiful.But so I had a trip with my school, maybeabout four years ago. As for a capsule n project when were graduating, and wetook a trip up for six weeks, O Montana Wyoming Idahope that that's part of theUS and just how much beauty there was there everywhere like mountains, rivers, yellow stone was amazing that the entire area that you would noone ever talks about going to Montana right. Just like it such an out. Thereplace like no one talks about it, so I was sopleasantly surprised. Goin there like going down the roads and seeing ahundred buffaloes crossing the road or you know so those those are the three Iwould say my favorite place is on the planet. So far, now, there's so muchmore for me to explore right. So three places that I would choose to go one massive one on the list that I havehis bally and that's because of how cheap it isand there's a lot of other digital nomads there and because there's as spiril spiritual side of itthat I do want to check out decided my own curiosity. It's one number two. I want to go to Eastern Europe either. Probably wo te best, that's what I would thinkso whent to check out Budapest and I want to check out Switzerland yeah because of how amazing it lookslike one of my favorite things to do just to kind of actually. This is atime waster, like you, said, I'll, go on youtube and I'll search upSwitzerland fork and they have like a drone shot if just dro flying through mountains and rivers,and so beautiful check it out like that yeah. That seems like a nicepicturesque time, wayster, I'm all about it. All three of those are on mylist as well. My sister honeymooned in Bali and Mi am jealous base stuffeverything she said. Where do you want to GE? I I, Switzerland is definitely on thelist. I am. This is more so again for, like thecuriosity of the homeland, I' Polish and German, so I somehow have not beento either country Poland or Germany despite traveling, quite a bitthroughout Europe, habit made it to the homeland in either way. So I like tocheck those out I've. Also, I would like to go El. I mean I guess I've beenthere. I've been to Australia, an New Zealand, but I haven't been as an adult,so I kind of consider it and, like a you, know, I'd like to go back there and then I also have two United States centrist lists ofvisiting every state and then visiting every Major League Baseball Stadium,because I think those are very, I very...

...nice, like snapshots, of a city's sort of fan basewhich who knows when well get back to seeing live sports in a you know, a capacity like we'reused to, but I think it's always so entertaining. I always have such a goodtime. Even if the team is terrible. I have like no rooting interest in reallyany of these teams. I grew up in Chicago, so cubs fan at heart, although theirownership group seems to just progressively be wanting to alienateall their fans so I'll also root for the white socks, which I know Blasphemato some some Chicago fans but whatever. But it's just like it's so cool to seewhere in the city it is to like. Is it right in the heart of downtown? Is itlike out in the outskirts? Can you just like you know casually walk in or is itlike a whole event of there's there's a huge. You know, like twelve acres,that's probably still too small, like a huge hundred of vacrs of land. Just forthe stadium, I think that's such a cool thing to do Montana is one of thestates I haven't been to thes. So that's that's also on the list. What changes like with location forbaseball stadiums like if it's more open versus, if it's in the heart ofthe city, I think it's my favorite one. I've been toactually it's a toss up between. I formerly atnt Park, or maybe it'scurrently eteent bark, the names, the one, the giants where the San Franciscogiants play and then course field with the rockies both of those just becauseof how picturesque they are. I course field is like right in the heart ofdowntowns. If you look to one side, you see downtown, but if you look at likeover the the outfield fence, it's just the gorgeous rocky mountains. In thebackground and the game I saw there' had yeah it's, I ended just you know aslike dusk was setting, so it was just such a a gorgeous backdrop there, and Ithink you you get a little more of that when it's kind of well, no I'm Gon, because courseChrisfield is downtown. So it's you, don't necessarily need to travel out ofthere for it. But I think it's just like it's interesting to see. Is this moreof an event versus you know. If you were going to dodger stadium, that'slike pretty far outside of of downtown La it's pretty much you're going to a dodgersgame, whereas course field you might just be walking by you might have justyou know: aited a restaurant than it's Loekay, I'm going to catch a game rightnow. Let me walk on in, and so it's a nice little way to see. You know how ae, how arethe sports fans here enjoying their time and everything, but I which, whichwhich cities have you found like the most dedicated sports fans that reallyenjoying watching their games? I mean every every city has like their owndedicated group of sports fans, but like in terms of the atmosphere, likeyou said, one's kind of almost like a walk in Whil, the others like a wholeevent, whild o be seen, I think I mean cubs fans are obviously like just hugely passionateabout the team I I have been. I know I have been to a cub's game after theywon the world serieus. I was going to say when they were the lovable losersbefore it was a. You know, little less optimistic, but still youknow still out supporting the team. I was kind of surprised the mets I went toNew York two years ago, the Yankees I saw a Yankees Red Sox game and Iactually hat to sit next to a family of Redsox fans, which I got to witness aBoston argument up close, which was just so so delightful to see theYankees clobbered the red sock, but they were still talking trash andeverything. So I thought that was great. The mets- and this also might have beenbecause where the seats were they were playing the Marlins, who, I believe intwo thousand and nineteen, they were the two worst teams in the theirdivision, and so we got seats in the front row in theOutfield, for I think it was twenty fiver total between two tickets, and itwas just like such a you know they they...

...knew their team wasn't going anywherefor the season. This was already in like August or September so day, thechances of them making the postseason were pretty slim, but everyone was justhaving a great time like they were doing all these things on the jumbotron. Just like fun little. You know like Trivia, likethe person who you know, they'll, pluck someone out of the crowd to answer likethree questions. He was in the section right next to us, so we're all likewaving at him like this is the yes or this is the asset. It's just kind oflike a more casual laid back atmosphere and a buddy of mine actually ended uplike babysitting a child for several innings, because he I let him know likehey we're in New York. He had just moved there he's like yeah I'll, comeI'll, come check out the game to it was his first time going to a mets game andsome random kid just say sat next to him. It was maybe like seven or eightand they're. Just he just starts talking to my friend and they have aconversation about baseball for like four ennings and then finally, theparents come up and o Ake Right. It's time to go and like grab the kid awayand he was like well Ca, oe Fassionat diipal. Oh He loved it. I was likethey're dropping. You know names from like the S and twosands that I hadtotally forgotten about, and I'm like you guys, are in your own world. Ibaseball is certainly not my favorite sport, but I think going to a baseballgame. Is My favorite sporting event to attend right? I think there's just a differentsubsect of fans in there who are really passiunrate about what their sport isas opposed to and because I would say, like it's American history right, youthink, like American Sports Oso, the most American sport that's been aroundalong, as that would says, baceball Eli CA BE TAM wrong. Ta, that's what I in the south, it's football in thesouth, but I think nationwide uld be baseball.YEAN N! I think there's a nice a lot of football stadiums. Now you know it'slike eighty, a hundred thousand people and that's just a it's a little lesspersonal of a feeling, whereas all these baseball stadiums are still kindof in the fifteen to twenty five osand seating capacity, so you do gind of get.You know a little little closer feel with everything and you can. You can belike less of a crown yeah. You can also be like right next to the field,whereas even if you're in a front row and a football stadium, there's stilllike quite a bit of distance between you and even the sideline, let alonelike onto the field. Unless you make it have gotten a pass, I always enjoyedthis in college I'd get to because I study broadcast journalism. Sosometimes I get a path to like go down on the field and I'm like standingright on the sideline. I was like if I took one step out, I'd be on the fieldright now, that's kind of cool. I would be terrified, of course, there's likehuge athletic men about to run me over, but what a time makes is well fantastic list, and I look forwardto seeing pictures and hearing stories after you have attended all of theseplaces on your list. Ohmar. Thank you so much for hopping on the PODCAST. Ifpeople want to learn more about, you want to learn, hey like they've got abusiness. They want to start a podcast. Where can they find? You feel free toreach that to me think these days I think the most commonplace that you canfind me as no matables on instagram. You just shoot me at them there. If yourely want to get in touch. You can also find me in no Matablescom, which iswhen my podcast is based around it's remote work and digital nomads onlinebusiness margetting all that space. Those arethe two places that you canfind me there release weekly episodes and if you want to Kno more aboutmyipodcasting agency, Ju t shoot me a message on no matables on instagram oremail me at Omar ad, no Mattabol to all right, you're, officially off thebook. Thanks for Havo be joy. Absolutely andof course, we got a end with ACONTR, as we always do. Ind I even made it alittle lie: Little differen marketing...

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