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Good People, Cool Things

Episode 37 · 1 year ago

Improving Physical Therapy and Athlete Training with Excy Founder Michele Mehl

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Excy founder Michele Mehl talks about the inspiration behind her product, how it's helped people recover during physical therapy, and shows off her gold medal.

Welgome, good people, fool things:theponcast beaturing conversations with entrepreneurs, frigters musicians andother creatives on your hostterwe held into day's guest. Is Michelle Mel, thefounder of the EX total body exercise bike for home fitness and physicaltherapy, and this is a bike. I mean I've, never really seen anything likethis, and I am sure it's it's going to be a little mind blowing for you too,but it's a portable recumbent exercise bike that can help both for yourfitness goals and any kind of physical therapy or getting back into shape. Ihave broken my foot my wrist before and I would have loved to have this whil. Iwas recovering from both of those injuries and Michelle was just such a acool person with a lot of great business experience and experienceworking with athletes of all different kinds. She has a gold metal as she's,going to share that she got from a client of hers, which is so cool andshe'll talk about her business goals, how she broke her leg while listeningto thriller, it's a little more complicated than that, but I thinkthat's a fun way to tease it and we've just got all different kinds of goodfitness tips, and I know I personally felt super motivated to work out assoon as I listen to this episodes. I hope you do as well. If you'd like toget in touch with the show you can reach out Sho, we act good people, coolthings dotcom or on facebook or on twitter, or on the brand new instogramat GPCT podcast on all of those. You can also do you some little shopping at thestore. Wear a nice tshirt while you're doing your workout or have a Mug forwater, or I guess you could put something else in there, while you'reworking out but water's probably the way to go, and you can visit that atgood people, cool things, dotcom, slash shop and, while you're doing that.Let's hop on into our conversation with Michelle, give me your elevator pitch,but also tell me the elevator that we're on while you're giving me theSpetch we're in a hospital elevator on the way to the ice to Ou, to visit afriend who has an injury right and some limited mobility constraints and we'regoing to talk about what it's going to take to get them back to their way oflife. We do multiple things with xe, but we're coming out we're up on thethe we have a portable exercise, bike right and that exercise bike works likelarge pieces of exercise, equipment found of physical therapy, um clinicsand gims, opera body or Gometer exercise bikes would come an exercisebike, an upright bike, but it's all in one tiny, little delice. Okay, thatfits anywhere fits an overhead on an airplane, so as you're in the ICU, andyou want to leave there with your health better intact. Let's start youcycling in the hospital bed, ok, so that we can help with preventpreventing blood clots, really focus on getting you moving, and I know thatthis person in the hospital is an athlete and wants to return to theirsports some day, but it takes time Ot's a process, and so we have created thisdevice that works along the entire life cycle of somebody's fitness journey,whether they have a limited mobility that is due to an injury, a disability.It could be temporary, it can be permanent, but we view exercise asmedicine, and so let's get you puddling in the bed and then we'll getyou pedling at home and then well increase the intensity and work ongetting back on the ski slopes 'cause. We cover the whole range of that fatessexperience. I know what caut my eye with with X C was that it it's notreally like a a standard. You know like Peleton,obviously getting a lot of buzz during the pandemic time and and being kind ofmore that recumbent style and like it seems, a lot more portable,which is great. Was that always...

...something that you had? You wouldwanted, or did you just kind of see that thatwas an area that's really not as lewl covered, so I've always wanted it to beportable from the very beginning I had very specific, like I wanted it to beunder fifteen pounds. That was really important to me. I wanted it to besmall, and initially I actually wanted it to fit in a backpack and the wholeidea of x initially started right around the time I had turned forty. Iwas running around like a crazy person. I ran my business before and I wastaking my son somewhere and then we finally kind of decomprissed and I tookhim to Skate Park and we're sitting at he, I'm watching him at the Skate Parkand I'm sitting down and I'm like, and I sat all day at my desk and I lookedown at my watch and I had twenty two hundred steps for the day and I was Ihad recently had pain in my ches. I had put on some weight from stress and Iwas like what happens if I just kind o turn this bench into an exercise bikelike right here on the sideline of my kids Bor. I could actually just pedaleand and that's where the initial idea came and instead of cycling. At thattime I started stepping up on the bench and I felt a little bit ridiculous andembarrassed my kid, but whatever I cofiered and then I kind of Satlen the idea forlong for a while and then all the way through that first year of being forty,I gained more weight. I just had to a stress a lot of stress and my businesspartner. Um wasn't working with me anymore. She went to go, be mom and Iput on more weight and again you know I have a genetic disposition towardsheart disease and and then I broke my leg during all ofthat and I started using a prototyph that we had created. I couldn't puddlemy legs, but I could puddle my arms, but so next thing you know anm like Oh,my God. This thing is amazing, like I can get my heartrit really high rightwith just my opper body, and so it transitioned from being. You know justlike a recumbent exercise bike to being fullbody, but I wanted it to beportable because I wanted to be able to move to any room. I wanted it to beable to move to the sideline of my kids' sports too. You know anywherethat I need it while I travel, I take it with me when I travel all the timeyou K O so that portability was always superimportant to me. Okay, a coupe follow questions fromthat Hon. How did you break your leg I to did you? Have I a prototype alongthe way that was like ridiculous or like almost funny and like how thefinal products had like no elements of it 'cause? I always feel like there's agood like like one good prototype where it's just like you look at all of themand you're like that's Kinda yeah, I would lie. Have IT HOL MOS. Do An ttake me that home I'll show it you. I actually keep this in the office. Ikeep every version in the office. 'cause we've been through multipleversions. So I to your first question: I broke my leg. Roller Skating at theskating ring and I'll, never forget it, because thriller was playing and- and Iwasn't trying to like shoot the duck. I was just skating, an rollerblades, nota good idea, and I fell and I twisted my Ley and I broke it really bad, likereally bad rod screws plates. I was in e boot for almost six months. It wasHorrib, I didn't heal, it was. It was pretty rough, but so the prototype wewere pretty far along. Let me see if he could see this Oh noc ye I mean it. Isit works to this ta? I keep it in here for just kind of a reminder for how farwe'vh COMTON, but the original idea of the device in terms of friction basedresistance. What we've patented is it's. It allowsthe device to not scoot away from you now. I should have the pretty one inhere, but I don't, but it allows the device to not scootaway from you. I'm GATA drop that it's very durable. Ijust dropped it on the floor. It allows a device to not scoot awayfrom you, while you're peddling, so there's all kinds of portable exerciseequipment on the market, but they all...

...max out in very low resistance becauseit scoots away from the writer and as soon as we figure in my co PT, my my Cocounder. You know who was a hardcore cyclist, arospace, engineer, amazingwhat he came up within that first prototype and we actually ended up, butthat was our paten. It was like. The first thing that he sent to me is whatwe ended up. Hattening an his cord, everything that we do so we had areally good pattern. Out of the gate, I made a really good prototype out of thegate. That's awesome. I like that visual demonstration, an always getthat it's pretty nice, pretty bch. Well, that's! What's one fun thing abouthaving a physical product right, you get to like touch it and feel it. Imean we have a mobile coaching application as well, and I just kind oflike look at look at it. It's so pretty, but you know the hardware is kind of whwhere the heart of the company is absolutely, and I think that leads to agood sort of shift. I guess in the theentire homeworkout industry winiancovet has brought on I 'cause. I know I'vebeen working out more at home because I still don't really trust going to a gymright now and what other ways have you seen that heywe're in pandemic times now and all of a sudden home workouts people are in meet ofthem like? Have you seen and heard a lot of? I don't know if horror storiesis the right word, but just people needing that to keep up that physicalactivity. I do, and so our Coreair, like I havehad Olympians N fll like athletes, um it'slike people who do mogal skiing.You know par Olympic athletes, really amazing athletes on hour device and hadbeen completely winded. I am not you know in supershape, but I'm in decentshape, and I only huas xe. You know so I you can really get a vigorous workoutwith it, but in the pendemics specifically, it has been a little bitof that. Like Hey, I can't get to the gym. You know I need some. I needgreater access to home and it's definitely been more centered aroundpeople who are greatly impacted by coved right. They have an underlyinghealth condition there. It's not just about being scared, it's actually notsafe for them to go. You know, and it's very state to state obviously and we'relie we're worldwide, but so, when a lot of, like we've, seen a dramaticuptakein our sails and a lot of it has been. He like. I broke my leg. What amI going to do and they do? I singthat I did and just hammer their arms, but wealso have things where, like I have. We have a version for people who arebedridden, for example, where they can peddle in bed, and there are a lot ofpeople who have had. You know traumatic, brain injury. They we had this onecustomer, he was dropped in the hospital and ended up with a TVI andhis. You know the pressure that he usually would have somebody come intothe home and take care of him or a physical therapy service would comepick him up and then take him. You know to a physical, therapist or o we seenwhere they a service would come and take them to the gym, and they can't dothat anymore. So, there's also just this there's a huge population wherethey're home bound and they're kind of scared, and they do you know a lot ofpeople one one thing I I hope people walk away with after thiscfor. A coitis just how many people have heart disease write. How many people havetype two diabetes? How many people have mascular conditions, respiratoryconditions, then we just kind of don't talk about right, and so I feel m lucky in so many ways that we kind ofgravitated towards this niche. We can help anybody exercise, but for me, whatlike and Mike what lights us up is that we can help people who don't reallyhave access to exercise like eliminate those barriers for them in wheelchairright. You know, but a lot of the does...

...cometanent. Do you know if you got likemy husband is a type one diabetic. I d'twant him at a gym right now. Youknow so it comes down to that for us in terms of where our passion is, and ittends to be around age, related injuries, disabilities and healthconditions, which I had my own. I'm forty, seven years old, I you know Ihave a genetic disposition towards heart disease. I have freaking VertigoRight now, which is driving me crazy. It's insane, but you know my leg- iscrooked and permanently crooked. From Wr. From my injury, I have a history ofblood clots from that injre that have to be careful on. So we're supercareful, you know- and I so that's tnd of you know centering on those peoplewho have health conditions who are worried right and they already doexercise Ra they and they are the most inspiring people ever. They just needbetter access to it and that's where we're focusd on one of the things thatI notice to and some products will have this of guided videos, but somethingthat you also offer is visual illustrations, which I feel like is not.Is Common I'll get those? Sometimes, if I'm going like I was at the doctor amonth or so ago, I and basically told them how like sometimes yeahll, getkind of like vertigo sort of dizziness feelings, and they gave me someillustrations to and some exercises to, try at home and-and I thought that was tremendously helpful, having those illustrationsbecause I'd read the instructions a I'm like. I don't really know what they'resaying right here and then I'd look on the lest page and there's pictures thatLi theiand. I think I think that's a an element that isboth a good, complementary piece to the videos, but also can stand alone ontheir own there're. Sometimes I'm watching a video, and I'm like I don'tknow how that person did that and for whatever reason, like a series ofillustrations, is like clearer to me for certain things. So was that againwas that always something that you wanted is like a visual component tothe workouts, or was that something you kind of added based off feedback thatyou ha got? So I always wanted a mobile coachingplatform to go with it. So we launched a company on kickstarter and it'sactually exactly five years ago La next week, an five years and we launchedwith a Mobil coach, Ang component, there's guided workouts, there's video,workouts and- and I think my own experience of going through physicaltherapy anybody who'sbeen through physical therapy. You get that hand outfrom the P T right. They always give you a hand out, and you have to do thehand out and you have foll along and then you never can find the handout.And then you have to like pause and then look at it. It's kind of a pain inthe, but so m that illustration, with drawings, on what people can do didn'tcome until about two years ago. So M you know in it, but it is like thepeople who do our videos. I do a lot of the videos and most of the videos, andthen we have videos that we do with physical therapist, who specificallybreak it down and that intention out of the gate like I was very intentionalabout wanting that to come from physical therapist, knowing that wewere going to be working with people and a lot of medical fitnessapplications. So yes, always intentional, and the mobile coachingapplication not so much on the on our drawings that make it very easy tofollow. But M. I love. I love her drawings like and I was very sp likewith her. I was like. I don't want. I too skinny I want. I don't want her tomuscular. I want her to have a realistic, kinbodis composition so thatpeople I I'm tired of like the fitness, buff, perfect ABS. You know and- and Ithink a lot of people are- I think it's demotivating to a lot of people yeahfor sure. I think when you see a more realistic portraial, it's almost comforting in a sense of likeokay. I can. I can make this happen more than Oh yeah. Here's thisshirtless guy with a somehow a twelve pack of ABS, which I don't yeah. Howand then you know he didn't get those...

...told pack of ABS, using whatever he'sselling Ono right, all kinds of other things that I'm I'm superadamant aboutonly using x, I mean I mount like I ski. I do all kinds of other things that Wen in terms of my exercise, I'm very focused on only using x so that I cansay listen. You know I've been doing this for five years. Twenty minutesfive to six days a week you know. Do I have a perfect body? No do I am in mytrying to have a perfect body, I'm not I'm just trying to be healthy and bestrong and so im, I'm very, very purposeful in how I use X C for to showthat okay, we can do this, it's possible Ra. So I think people relate to it a littlebit yeah for sure, and I think that's speaking of relating, I think we've gotthe holidays coming up. Somehow we're in do four already just about which isy nowbankers I and the holidays. Traditionally, who knowshow it'll look this year, but traditionally ar time where working outseems to go a little bit to the wayside? I know I go to visit my family inChicago. My parents are up there, so the idea of working out outside soundsterrifying because the potential for frost byte- and I, of course you knowyou're going to a holiday parties that might look different this year, butyou're probably still not eating as well as you normally would throughoutthe course of the year. So what have you seen both from a personalperspective and just from you know, tips you've learned along the way ofhow to keep up with your fitness sgoals during what is normally a prettychaotic time. It might even be more chaotic this year. It is you know, so I can. I can answerthat question a lot oways, an I'll start with this and Ri. I remember, aswe were entering twsent a twenty. It was kind o like we're all looking at itlike through these clear vision of twenty twenty, like vision, Er eyeslike there's. All these references to Pryou know n what we want. It's twentytwenty. What do you see happening, and I think right now is the time that wedon't you know, Y in next June. We don't want to start talking about twenty twenty in hindsight, right, everybody's, it's twenty twenty inhindsight and right now. If we don't take our care of ourselves in theselast three months and especially if we've let ourselve go SANC cobed,starting right, we're going to enter O thosand and twenty a lot less healthyand a lot more predisposed to disease right that we might already be carrying.So my biggest advice is like, if you've put on the Cobeid nineteen wait rightand I put on a little bit of weight myself and I get it it's just it homeand comfort, food and all kind it's hard, but most of the time we'll put on fivepounds during you know during the winter months, and it's like we're notBHERS, we we're not supposed to hibernate right. So it's like startingnow p t and put that twenty twenty behind us in terms of our health rightand like what can we do to at least maintain what we have or get healthierbefore the end of the year and then into thosand and twenty one and m? WhatI like to do. I like to look at exercise like snacking on potato chipsis what I call it and they've redone the exercise. Guidelines like it usedto be, and I think the jims have a lot to do with this. Like I love jibs,don't get me wrong, but it was like okay, you have to go to the gym forforty five minutes to an hour, ready to feel like you actually had a benefitand nobody in their right mind wants to pay for gym membership or they're,going to go ten minutes right or they're not going to want t go to thegym like four times a day to exercise for ten minutes, but the new exerciseguidelines. They are very specific from the the Department of Human Health andservices that it all adds up right. So two minutes here: Five minutes there,ten minutes there. It all adds up so like we can do that long, we're at homewhen, while we're you know, maybe we're working at home, more enwen weretraveling. I just drove eight hours...

...this weekend. I pulled over three timesand did jumping jacks on the side of t e on the highway, because I have aherstory of bloodclots. It's not very smart for me to drive and not stop anddo something you know so snacking on exercise liketwo minutes here. Ten minutes here is why we mear Lobele coachingapplications, so interval based and short workout base where you can createyour own workouts or you can do seven minutes, and then you know what happensonce seven minute work out turns into a fourteen minute, workout and thenyou'rethby the next one you're. Like hang man, I did fourteen minutes today.I can do another seven tonight and at least I got twenty one minutes in. Soit's like snacking on them throughout the day pushup you know, squats I mean xe. We do somany different things. We have so many different exercises. You know soobviously pedaling Xi but arm circles, arm circles like do you were an Apple Watch. I do not.No, I have not got again like Sometiei. I will test myself and I'LL: Go, getthe groceries and put my heart rate on just to see what happens ray or I willumstant and do arm circles, and your heartrigte will jump like actuallyquite a bit by doing arm circles so squeeze and snack on exercisethroughout the day and the maybe try to squeeze in one particular kind ofworkout. You know, in addition to everything you've already done for theday, so snap on exercise like their chips. If you eat one you're, not onn,to eat what and you eat like two three and the maybe the whole bag. I likethat analogy, a liespecially as a thip of Fishianato, maybe not as much assome other people. I know, but it's it's definitely a relatable p approachand totally agree when we were still in the office. Our Company for a while wasdoing like on the hour exercise brings basically wher Wen, get up and we'dwe'd kind of set an activity for the day, so yea, maybe pushups, maybesquats wallsits, and it was like really comforting, and I think youwere saying how I you know, you're embarrassing. Your Sun, during duringhis game, but like I think, once you get over that initialand it sounds like you you're, like whatever I've done this before it's, but getting over that initial sort oflike. Oh it's a little. You know little anorthodox to be doing exercising inthe office, but so many people were jumping in then too 'cause they're, alllike hey. This is this is beneficial and and some people wouldn't- and itwas just like- Hey- I'm going to do pushups next to you like you're, stillworking at your desk. That's fine, both of us are, are accepting o what theother one's doing, and I I personally very much enjoyed it. 'cause yeah I'vebeen sitting down for the last hour like why not get up and and get atleexercise we have to. I mean I did it for years. I did it for years and I you know just sitting down hours uponhours upon hours and never moving, and the other thing that the research showsright. You could be a triathlet, you could run marathons, you could be inthe best shape of your life. But if you sit at your desk all day right and youdon't move, they don't cancel each other out ray it's like you still. Ifyou sit at your desk all day, and it doesn't matter if you, you know, stillget your minimum requirement for exercise to fight preventable diseasesitting at your desk all day is still really bad for you. You know. So Iagree it's. What even calf raises at your desk like there's so many thingsthat you can do and I like to really mindfully focus on what muscles or whatI'm doing, while I'm doing afras Le Oh wait. WTHEN, I gon to engage my corewhile I'm doing that o I'm like actually filling that in my quads alittle bit and like mindfully sitter on what you're moving and what you'rehelping. I think that helps too for sure for sure, and I think that's a agood reminder of really any exercise is like yeahpay a little attention to whatyou're working on what's going on and you you really do, focus that much moreon on an I. I can only speak for me, but I know I've always seen betterresults when I do that e. So I can, I think so Herifi I think so. I Ti triedtoll people do that during warm up like when we were peddaling our arms rightwith Xy, it's like feeling, what's...

...going on with your rotator coff, ifyou're coming backwards, what's going on with your shoulders in the back, howare you sitting up right if we're sitting on the COUT, an we're peddlingaxally? And you know what happens if you siup versus lay down, and then youknow on foot fitness, I'm a huge fan of footfitness and you know we don't takecare of our feet really well, so we actually encourage people to peddlebarefooter with their socks, and it's like hey, take a moment and curl yourtoes and like feel the joint muscle- and you know, motioniss lotion for thejoint like feel the joint moving and then all of a sudden. Maybe you didn'twork up ha big, sweat, but all of a sudden you have more mobility in yourknee than Ho've ever had it's crazy. So you know just moving like moving. IsEverything and exercises every you know? F, fror greater health, but I mean Icould go on it for this step. Sorry Yeah someone who has broken his foot. Icannot ll stress enough, yes get and get that mobility whenever he charswonderful yeah, you like you, know, use it or lose it. It's real and especiallylike you get forty and then you know fifty and like it just becomes harder.So we have to take care of ourself. You know it's like, don't put it off ifyou're in your twenties and thirties, it's like no game on. Let's gorightit's like it's like investing in a retirement accountor something like that. Like you start now, and you'll ha you'll have a muchbetter benefit all those years down the line. Now moving from the exercise tomore of the business side of things you're about to celebrate five years,congratulations, since the kicks are oncalations. Thank you. I what'ssurprised you the most about running a business, about running a business. You know, I think, the so my I had a business before this thatI ran for for fourteen years, and I've worked with start ups, my entire career,so I'm pretty well verse in kind of t e aspects of running a company, but thethings I think that have surprised me is when I actually had is the emotion, roll coaster of it. Iconsider myself to be somewhat of a pretty strong person. You know not rattled easily and also not like not someody who's on an emotionalrollercoaster prettys pretty stable, and I was cert like when I wentfulltime in on X. I I ran actually for two years working two jobs and then topay for it and boot struck the company, and then I went in full time and all inand I had never had. I have had never not had a paycheck like from the momentI graduated from college. I had a paycheck and so that freaked me out waymore than I thought it was going to freak me out. I mean I'm telling you Ihad anxiety, I felt like I had panic attacks. I couldn't sleep and you knowmy husband's Nice and all I love Hem but, like I don't like to be, I justIAM super uncomfortable with being really dependent on him financially andI wasn't expecting that and so then it was like El. I need to make more money.You know like it was just stressful, so I think that was the biggest surpriseto me. That kind of caught me off guard yee. I I would imagine that's. I definitely a big change early on of like wait a minute and did you goand check your your bank account like when you were supposed to get paid, Ifeel like. I would do that still like I'd log out and be like? Oh, Oh woh, no,it's not there. I think I I think I checked my bankaccount more frequently like oinout. How Lo is this? Getting I mean that M and just like all of a sudden notfeeling like I could go, buy myself something or I could m you know ifwe're going to go out for dinner, or I was just much more, I felt like wewere early in our marriage again, like you know where we didn't have a lot ofmoney and we had to really talk about everything, and you know we've beenkind of privileged in that way. My my husband and I have both made a goodliving and so all a sudden it was like...

I just jumped back to being right, ounof college and just really really thinking about finances a lot, and itwas a purposeful decision to boot, stop the company, so I was kind of expectingthat, but not to the extent that I felt likeI lost a little bit of independence, financial independence O in like Oh, Iwant to get my hair done. Oh God like. How much does that cost like? Can Ireally go? Get my hair done or little things like. I needed some new clothesand my clothes are horrible, like I need some new clothes, and I just and Ifelt this tremendous sense of guilt and so in responsibility yeah, so that was that was probably. Ithink that was probably the biggest thing to call me by surprise. None ofthe business stuff like I love that partseosis fun part right, but thatother side of stuff were is a little shocking to met. I think, that's, Ithink, that's a reasonable fear for sure yeah yeah, no, a question that Ialways like to ask, and maybe I like it, because it's it's really no work for me,but a question that you wish you were asked more frequently and for you it was what motivates youto be such an advocate for fitness and health, and I feel, like you've,touched a little bit on on it, but is there any sort of other really any other reasons? Why you're sofashionate about this? You know it's a really good question and I youknow, can I cuss on your program of course, like I really want it in thebeginning. I don't know if it's appropriate, but I almost thought ofour tag line as being fuck fitnessbecause and then that wasn'tappropriate because it was like it's not the fitness pace. That motivates me.It is the stories of the people who need access, who can't have it throughwho don't have it and from me I thought it was time I thought I just didn'thave time I had time I would sit on my butt in the evening. Like seven thirty,every night consistently we watch exercise, I mean we'd watch T V as afamily. That's when I use Exi now I have time that time. I don't have a lotof other time, but I have that time. It's still my time that I do it, youknow, but it is the I g et thank you emails this weekend onthe sideline of my son's baseball game, I'm coordinating with a physicaltherapist who is using her device in a way that I had not thought of Wat astroke patient. He sends me a TEX message on the sideline of my base andmy kids' baseball game. I almost start crying ray. I have another lady who justhis was just this weekend. She has horrible back pain like really bad backissues, and she has a lot of things going with her core. She cashe's notsupposed to engage her core, and so she had originally bought a device thatanytime somebody buys our bedbike. That we say is for hospital bids. I callthem 'cause. I want to know what's going on and I ended up calling herasking her to give me a call, and I walk her through everything and, likeyou, don't need the bedridden version, because you can get to the floor andthere's so much more that you can do with our other version. You canOpperbodi noerboy all kinds of things that she can do, and I mean she sent methe nicest message right. So it's it's helping people n, that they reallydon't have access to other means and they are the most motivated andinspired people, and maybe they do have that, but the equipment that we matchis thousands of dollars, thousands of dollars an upper body or Gometer ofgood ones. Twenty five hundred bucks ray a really good recument bike, twelvehundred dollars, ra lying down on the floor and peddling with her legs.Nobody does that we're the best setit in the world. You know, so we takethousands of dollars of exercise equipment right, we put in one littletiny device and so and it really helps people so that I mean that's, that's the only reason I'm doing this.It's too hard like if it was all about people and how they look and theirbathing sue, which is I'm not putting that down. 'cause it's important to alot of people, but that would not get me up every day it just wouldn't. Idon't think I'd give like up at me:...

Everda Yeah. I really like the the aspect ofcalling them and just just yeah, to learn more about really their story and everythingthat's going on there and I think that's something that a lot ofcompanies can be doing and yeah I'm trying to think of the last time I purchase something and got a call oreven like a a personalized sort of note of like hey. You know I want to learnmore about you D, an you're use with this Prodo. We have. I I KEP anotherthing: We're doing. have it right here e. If I had it, I just had it in myhand. My desk is a mess. I don't know if youcan see it behind me, I put it somewhere. Oh I had it e here.I keep it on my desk like so. This is a metal, a gold metal from one of ourcustomers, Sheis a Paralympic gold metalist in the warrior games for themilitary, she's, partially paralyzed, and she hurt her. She Hu her shoulder she'spartally paralyzed in one of her legs. She has an x she's, been amazing, likewe've become friends and she she gave left one of her gold medals. She won agold medal and she sent it to me with a handwritten note. Like I mean we havesor, we have so many amazing stories like this that it's just like. Ofcourse, this is what I'm doing like. Why, wouldn't I be doing this? It'sinsane right who we get to help and impact, and it changes everything whenyou can actually be able to do stuff like this weekend. With this personwith a stroke, they have not been able to do any formof exercise independently on their own for nine months, since they had theirstroke. He was crying while he's puddling. Our device like this is thefiscal therapist telling me this 'cause. He coal do it by himself riht. It'sjust that's that's a long way around, but that is why we do this. That's whowe want to help. I want to help busy lawns and you know everything, but mostof us have something going on right. Thet. We just don't talk about and Um,that's who we want to focus on. That's amazing! Those are such good storiesand you get a gold medal. THAT'S SUPER COO! I get agold metal. I mean it'sit's I I need to put it in a case and actually put it on the wall, but it'shere and someday will do that. No, I usually like to rap up with a topthree and I feel, like you, ere a great person to ask this. But what are yourtop three favorite fitness workouts? Well, I'bias there toly XY. I can goalright. First, it's pedaling actually with my arms, because never in myentire life have I had toned arms and for the first time in my life I do andI usually sit down on the floor and pedle my arms there. So that's my firstone, the second one is I lovt standing on it and peddling it at my desk or like with Ski Poles, and I hammer thatone and then anminigoes back and forth between ourlying down on the floor position. We have this new accessory. That is simplya crazy workout for glots, but also for core for people who struggle with learn,lower back or the recument chair position. That's what I primarily do. Ialso have like a kettle bell underneath my sink and next, where I brush myteeth, and sometimes I will do that. I do pushups before I go to bed liketwenty pushups. Usually sometimes I fall off the Rader, but I try to dotwenty pushups before I go to bed. Even if I've had a glass of wine, I alwaystried to do twenty pushups before I go to bed Um and during coverd I've beenwalking a lot and I've really enjoyed that and m. It actually hurts my leg,that's crooked, but I still do it anyway, 'cause I like it. Another thing I do, I do have a Terogunand I think they changed the name. I forget what they changed. The name Um,have you thars like a pulsating gun or you a muscle and it kind of vibrates,the muscle and I I use that and wear eggs and pains and try to free up themuscle, Um, and then I mean I, I love p. WhatPalaton is doing? I love what tornal's...

...doing and mere fitness. I am a fan ofwhatever, if somebody's going to do. For me, it's about fitting exercisingwith my everyday life my ever day, routine. That doesn't ask me to falltoo much outside of my routine. You know so, I think whatever works forpeople, but I still go back to the snack on exercise. DO JUMPING OU knownot everybody can do jumping jacks like Um, you know just find what works foryou connect it back to your Wy. Why you're trying to be healthy in thefirst place, and then that will be the motivator yeah. I like that. A Lotitwas, maybe a little more than three, but I I think Thas eal good, a Godi,don't I don't hold people too closely to if TAT's Alwaysi, just I just ask atleast three if people are only coming up with two I' might come on, give me aThi, I st say whatever works for you,whatever works for you for sure for sure. Well, somehow, we've reached theend of the episode already it just clew right by I. If People Wan to learn moreabout X or want to learn more about you, Wer Gett, in touch, how can they? Howcan they reach you im? So our website is probably the best way to find outmore about. It said: DX Com. We are on social medias. Well, we, I do a lot ofyoutub videos, so you too, if you know you want to sometimes I say things thatare off the cuff: it's all live it's a little crazy on occasion, but you too, b t in the face Bokas Paor,most an channels with our most content and in my emails just in Mishell at x,tcom and it's Michel, with Onell at x, dtcom and ha easiest way to reach o meis, while you'd be an email but check on he website O. Do you have a favoriteoff the cuff thing you've said on you too, or one where you were like m? Ishould' have sat daw well, you know, I think, for I probablyhave cursed more since Covin. I really try not to do that because we a we. Ijust try not to be offensive in it anyway. Um You know. No, I don't. On occasion myson will come in when he was little now he's fifteen when he was like ten oreleven. He would come and do videos with me and now he won't so I lovethose ones. 'cause now he's cool and he's fifteen and he thinks I'm Aergright so yeah. I know probably like when, when Ihave guests that I get to have on and we just go live, and they haven't doneit before, and it's just real like tat right, it's authentic and it's myfavorite way to do things. Yeah, I think that's. That's like the beauty ofhaving live. Ive looks like that as like. Neverentirely sure what to expect and yeah Y H. It might go off the railsoccasionally, but I think usually it's just a good time all around yeah. Ithink so too mshal. Thank you so much for taking thetime to Tra. This is great. I am literally going Ta go exercise afterthis Gayoaven Y. try the arm circle. Oh I'mtelling I yeah theyarebit's! It's like absurd! HOW AFFECT IT! It is what it is. It is absurd howeffective upper body cardio is people don't know they focus so much on theirlegs? OP, our body, okay, and not talking about bicep curls and all thatuppera body conditioning if people could walk away with one thing oftrying to incorporate upper body conditioning anything by you know:ISOMMETRIC pols you W awith x, I mean we can just you can get it up reallyhigh. You know, but just opperbody conditioning is the secret. Even ifyou're tremendously overweight and you can move Youra, there's A. I think.It's a Tracy Anderson workout on YouTube. That's like yeah, it's justseven minutes or eight minutes long super easy, and one of I or one of mycoworkers shared it a few months ago and every once in a while I'll revisitit or someone else will and be like hey. I did that arm work out again and likeI hate myself, but also it was great. No, it's a secret. It is a secret andeverybody needs to know about it. Love it we're spreadin. The word spread inthe word: Pein owe O Spen, Awar Yeah, of course, we'll always end y with aCorny joke, and I wanted it to be...

...fitness neamed. But then I heard thisother one and I wanted to shore it it's more Hollowa ind temed. I guess what O witch is put in their hair. Thatscare spray t that's cute. That's Cute.

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