Good People, Cool Things
Good People, Cool Things

Episode 18 · 1 year ago

Producing TV Shows and Budgeting Tips with Annette Silva

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Annette Silva, executive producer at Studio City Productions, knows the power of a good story. She joins the podcast to talk about producing TV shows, both traditionally and in the current all-digital landscape. She also shares how she started a budget to save money for her family – and how you can do the same – and why trust in the workplace is essential.

Welcome the good people cool things,the show featuring conversations with entrepreneurs, writers, musicians and other creatives. I'm yourhost. We held and today's guest is film producer Annette Silva. ANETTEand I go way back to our days at Breuko Karaoke in Los Angeles,which, sadly, Bruko no longer exists, but our love for Karaoke and forentertaining others carries on strong and it that has been up to plenty ofexciting things. We're going to dive into all of that in this episode.How she found a nurse and Tennessee and turned her into a viral star,her tips for budgeting and saving money and why establishing trust with everyone you workwith is so important. Will get into all of that, but first,if you'd like to get in touch with good people cool things, reach outon twitter or facebook at GPCT podcast. Of course, you can always sendan email joey at good people cool thingscom as well. All Right, here'smy conversation with a nette. What have you been up to over the pastwhat? Three years since since you last graced my podcast with your appearance?Oh my God, I don't even remember the last time we spoke, whatI was even working on. I just know that I was driving on myway to work and you mapped out. I mapped out my route for you. Yes, that was very enjoyable and I feel like I've gone on moreruns lately and always look at my route afterwards using Matt my run. Ithink that's what it. I think that's what I use and I it's alwaysit always feels like I've run a lot more and then I look at theroute and I'm like, Oh, I went down the block and it feltlike a marathon. I know the feeling. Yeah, I go through the samething too, but I has three years since we spoke. I guessaround that time I was probably getting ready to get married. My husband andI celebrated our two year annivers three last month, and so we we invitedour close family and friends to Los Angeles and we got married in a privateceremony in our living room overlooking downtown, which was magical. It was themost perfect, most diy wedding ever. That sounds very although I imagine yourswas a lot more elegant than the parks and reck wedding of April and Andy, which I only bring up, because I don't know, of my parksand wrecked podcast where they kind of decided to get married on a whim,which I know was not the kiss for for you to but no, it'svery much like a yeah, like let's just do it in a living roomand surrounded by by the closest family and friends. And it was. Itwas great, and so I like it. I like it. Yeah, itwas. It was perfect. It really was, because I'm I'm aTV producer, so I'm always behind the camera and I've never ever wanted tobe in front of the camera. I don't like attension, I get reallyshy, I start sweating, my heart starts racing, which basically was meon my wedding day, the whole day, because I had forty people looking atme and I and my husband, but I just I don't like it. So I wanted the least amount of people around me as possible, whichwas forty. That was the minimum we could do because I come, weboth come from a huge family, so we had to do it that way. But it was great. And then two months after that we get thecall, my production company gets the call that we are going to be producingseason ten of hoarders on any I know you know that show. Of course. I found out on a Monday and...

...on that Saturday I was on aplane to Boston to film not one house, not two houses, but three housesof best friends who lived five miles within each other that were all hoardersand bonded over that. Wow, what did they hoard? What? Everyorder, hordes, everything, you named it, books, flows, antiques, empty tied laundry, detergent bottles, like old, crusty batteries, likelawn chairs that are broken that there one day going to six everything, everything. That's magical. Yeah, just like my wedding, some things that.It was a whirlwind. It was crazy. It was. It was it wasone of the biggest productions that I've done. We inherited all of thesame crew that's been on the show for years and we shot five, twoour episodes. So each episode we were out in the field for seven daysstraight, fill mean for one episode. So it was it was a lotof work and it was like it was really exciting for me because it wasthis big project and I was taking it on and I was producing it andbut it was but it was a little bitter sweet because I've literally just gottenmarried and we're so excited and we went on our honeymoon and then I waslike okay, bye and left four weeks so it was. It just,you know, two thousand and eighteen was a year that I just didn't seekcoming in any way, but it was. It was such a big growing andlearning year for me. What would you say was your your number onelesson that either the entire year or your experience shooting quarters gave you? Ithink just learning how to prove to people that they can trust you when you'reproducing a show. You're taking care of everything. You have to appease thehoarders themselves to have a serious mental condition, a crew who needs to feel likethey're taking care of they know where they're going, they know what theirjobs are, your boss, who, of course, you're reporting to,and then the network that has expectations as well, and I'm coming in asa producer who's never been on the show before, and a lot of thesepeople who've been working on the show, from the network to the crew,they all have been doing it for years and they're like, who are you? Little Twenty eight year old little girls, and so really was like being notjust on top of it but ahead of it, and being organized andcommunicative and super transparent and friendly with everyone to make them feel like they werein good hand. And I guess you could say of course, like youshould always beat that way, but I think until you're kind of forced togo through it do you learn how important it really is. And I'm soglad it went the way it did. But I learned, looking back onthat experience, that making sure people trusted in me was such an important lessonthat now every production I'm on I make sure I follow the same kind ofcharacteristics for myself. That's awesome and I don't think I mean I know.I certainly didn't really realize how many people...

...are involved in a production until probablylike my one was this my junior year of college, sophmore junior of College, when our UMTV Miami Station put on an exhibition basketball game, a broadcastfor an exhibition game, and I don't know why, I was just thinkinglike I had been to like the TV shows and like worked on that andthose are pretty extensive to usually twenty to thirty people involved with that, butthen the sort of events took that to like three times the level where it's, you know, people just holding onto the cord of a camera, thecable, because it's like eighty feet and you would, everyone would be trippingover themselves if, if there wasn't someone just to like wrangle that in.And it's really a the trust element is such a important thing because there's somany people that need to work together and if they don't trust the person that'srunning the whole thing, who can go south in a hurry. Yeah,yeah, it's true, and every single person is important and matters and relieson each other just as much. But live events as a whole other beast, because you don't get to take another take, like you miss the shot, you missed the shot, show moves on and you're screwed. At leastfor us, like if we needed to pick something up, if we reallyreally needed that shot again, we could say, okay, you know whatwe did, we messed that up. Can you walk back through the dooragain? Sorry, you know, but if your live events, I don'tknow, you're watching like a sporting event or whatever, like it's there,you're moving on, you're going with the flow. I've never done live eventsbefore. Thank God that's dressed within itself. Well, of course, with thecancelation of Sports, or postponement, I should say, of Sports,they're not canceled forever. Over the past couple of months, especially around Marchmadness, being a big college basketball fan, I was watching a lot of highlightsjust from previous years and there was one that was see if I canremember which game this was. How much of a Nerd am I? Itwas last year's game. It was Virginia and Perdue, which I believe wasthe elite eight, and basically Virginia had to miss a free throw on purpose. The ball got tapped like seventy feet from the basket and they throw itback and a guy shoots it and makes it right at the Buzzer and theannouncer this is to tie the game and send it to the overtime, andthe announcer says for the win, as you shooting it, and he makesit and then he's like Oh, and Virginia, and he's like about tosay wins the game. Then he's like ties the game, and like everycomment on that video was just like boy, this moment kind of gets ruined bythat announcer there, and I was just like, oh no, cuse? Oh No, because, yeah, like you do. It's MINEM.You got one shot and it can I mean that's like a great moment,but it is like a little dampered by damper. That's, in a word, dampened by by that call. Maybe I'll edit that up and it's likean no, you only get one shot, one opportunity, mom spaghetti. Sothat was two thousand and eighteen and obviously it's been a year and ahalf since then. So what else have you been up to? Oh Boy, what else? Um God, I I've been traveling a lot. That'snot true at all. I don't know, just sounds like the thing to say. That's my brain, doesn't went on auto pilot, like, Ohyeah, but travel a lot. I really haven't. I was just lookingat instagrams travel post that's why I said that. Just like working a lotand saving a lot of money, I...

...went on a massive budget and literallytrack every credit card transaction and plug it into a budget and look back andsay, Oh, we shouldn't have done that, oh now you can't gobuy new shoes or whatever, which has been a big learning experience. Butwe've actually like saved up a lot of money and paid off a lot ofdebt, which has been great, and so two thousand and nineteen was alittle boring because when you go on a budget like that, you can't goto the movie, you can't go to birthday drinks, you can't go toa weekend get away like you're at home and you better love to cook athome and you better love your couch because you're going to be spending a lotof time watching Netflix. I mean, that's a big step, I think. was there an impetus, like had you bought sixteen pairs of shoes andthey all came at once and you were like, okay, I need towrangle this in, or was it or just like something you've always wanted todo? was kind of like track your budgeting like that? We, myhusband and I, we've been talking about it for years, like okay,we really need to get finances in place one day we want to buy ahome, we want to start a family and and we know we're not thereand if we don't change our lifestyle then we're never going to get there onthis at this rate. So let's get serious about this. We sat downin December of two thousand and eighteen. We built this budget. We setlimitations for ourselves and we've been on it ever since and we've literally like tensof thousands of dollars have saved because of it, and it's been hard becausewe can't have the social life we used to have and we don't shop awhole foods anymore. But but it's so nice to have all this money thatwe are going to put towards our futures, so it's totally been worth it.That's fantastic. What was the most this can either be before or afteryou started budgeting, but what's the most frivolous purchase that you've made? Ifeel like we still sometimes makes to the list purchases because we feel like thisis worth it, like like buying flits to go home to Texas for grandma'sbirthday or something like. That's not cheap and when you're buying for two,that's like couple hundreds of dollars. And every trip home, whether we're goingto Texas or Kentucky, you know you're looking at minimum five hundred dollars andfor us that's like, oh Jeez, the big since we weren't really accountingfor those. Are Really Been I guess the most frivolous, apart from ourbirthdays, which, of course, we still splurge and spoil ourselves because wedeserve it. That's still not so bad, though. I thought, like Ithink, you're still at least seeing family and spending time with people.You, I presume my no, I, and I don't want to sound likeI like we had like spending problems, like we would like go buy LouisAtton bags or anything like that. That's what I'm picturing. No,no, I do not have expensive tastes, like Banana Republic is the most luxuriousclothes I own. So No, definitely wasn't that. It's just addsup, dude, especially living in Los Angeles, like you go out fordrinks with friends, all the sudden you're you spent two hundred in one night, like it's just it's just crazy. Yeah, Los Angeles, Oh man, that is where, that's where you and I met. And Yeah,I mean that was also like when I was fresh out of college and socertainly wasn't financially savvy and wasn't making as much as I am now, andevery time I'd go out, I'd have like at most two drinks and I'dstill get a bill of like forty,...

...and I'm just thinking this matter.How like there needs to be some sort of precious metal inside of this drinkfor it to be worth it, and there never was. You're you're like, I literally bought two Miller High Life. How is this forty? That's howthey get you. That's Miller high life. That's all where the bigmargins are. So anyway, saving money. It's been a big one. Andthen I joined the cult that is Peloton. Yes, I did,proud of it. I didn't get the bike, though. I actually alreadyhad a stationary bike that I've had for a couple of years, and soI joined to Apps, and I'm like the total cult member now, inthat I follow all my favorite instructors on instagram and when they like, postabout a recipe they make, like, I have to make it, andwhen I, like, reach a big milestone, like a hundred spins,I have to post about it. And I got my century ride shirt,like I'm all about it. It's I've never been a gym person, butit honestly is like the instructors that I really like. I they motivate me. And you're listening to music while you're doing it and you're at home soyou don't have to go to a gym. So I've like gotten into really greatshape because of it. That's awesome and it really does be instructor reallydoes make a difference, I think. I know I've been exploring things tomy co workers. Don't tell anyone her log and info, the beach bodyarray of products and my really my only experience with it was through twenty fivewith Shawn T. got to give Shawn Tia shout out because he's great.But some of those instructors are very annoying and I would try a workout andI'm just like, Nope, I'm not going to stick with this because ofhow annoying this isn't like yes, you commute it, but then you don'treally know what you're doing or anything like that. But I did come acrossI don't know if you're a shits creek fan at all, but there's athe hit hit for I believe, is what it's called. I just startedit a couple days ago and the trainer in that, whose name I donot remember because it is still so new, both looks and kind of acts likeTed from Shits Creek Dustin Milligan and it just like it makes me gigglebecause it's I'm just picturing Ted leading this class and it's so delibic. Well, just imagine if it was what, what's his name? The mayor?There's Roland Rolland Shit, imagine if that was your instructor. Oh Man,I do, I do appreciate when people in the videos are more like look, I'm not in bad shape, but I'm not in great shape, andI like when the people in the videos are like that as well, likeI don't want, Oh yeah, I don't want the biceps to be likebigger than their heads, because I don't think that's achieving. Yea, Iknow, I agree, although sometimes, watching those super buff people, it'sa little motivating because you're like watching their muscles and you're like yeah, metoo, me too. That's try. At least it's it depends on theon my chief for the day. I think sure, that's fair. Ofcourse, you and I met doing Karaoke, and have you been keeping that upor is that something that got reduced? Obviously right now not so much,but back in in two thousand and nineteen, was that something that gotclipped due to budgetary reasons, or if you still manage to grace the stageevery once in a while. No,...

I haven't graced the stage. Ising all the time anyway, at home, in the car, at work.I love pissing, but I don't do it on the stage as much. However, this past February literally, like one of the last social eventsI went to before the pandemic was on February twenty nine and it was forour companies twenty five year anniversary and we had a huge party in a likethis penthouse restaurant downtown La and everyone got super dressed up and they had akaraoke bar in the back part of the restaurant which, at the beginning ofthe night was totally empty and the only person singing on the microphone was thewoman who working the affect and we have people would pop back there and belike this isn't happening and leave. But literally like thirty ten o'clock, theKaraoke bar became the hot spot. Everyone was in, like everyone was stuffedin that one room when there was so much more restaurant available. But Karaokeit's such a fun thing to you know, experience, even if you're not seeingand so I can't remember what Song I saying that night, but Idefinitely got on the microphone and at one point I was dancing around with thetambourine. So I got my karaoke fix and it was so amazing. Yeah, if you can throw in a prop like a tambourine is it's not ratherprop, it's an instrument, but if you can throw in some kind ofadditional element like that, it makes it even better. But just such ayeah, it's such a mix of people coming together with the common goal ofenjoying music and it's yeah, yeah, it was so fun, just asmagical as your wedding. It was just actually, at the wedding we allsang. Yeah, I'll say, and I could I at the wedding Icouldn't believe that I wasn't me that picked this. It was not planned atall, but my sister was kind of like our MC DJ of the nightand she picked don't stop believing as a song for us to sing to,and so Jason and I were in the middle of the living room, facingeach other, dancing and singing at the top of our lungs the song andeveryone was surrounding us and we were all singing the song together, and nowevery time I hear that song I go back to that exact memory and I'mlike, Oh my God, that was the high of that night. ItI'll never forget it. And what's crazy is that that song to me hasalways been like Oh song that the Frat boys always played at the bars andAustin. I hate this song, but having no, no say in bringingit back into our lives in that way totally just squash that other memory.So now this is my new memory of the song and I freaking love itagain. Yeah, I think that's a better memory than Frat boys in Austin, of which there are many. Yeah, there are. So I know arecent project that you shared I is a new sort of even know.Is it just like an online talk show? I saw you had posted an interviewwith John Ross Bowie from big bang theory and speechless, which is Imean, I'm not going to I'm not gonna say I'm a Big Bang theoryfan because I haven't really watched it, but I really loved speechless and thoughthe was great on it, and obviously it's been a lot of other thingstoo. And so how did how did...

...all of this come about? Iknow you got a name drop in it. Yeah, that you were a pleasureto work with, because I was like I was saying, you gotto make sure people trust you. But back in the big BC, wecall it BC, before coronavirus we had we stumbled upon a viral video onfacebook of this nurse from Tennessee who posted a video on her facebook just forher friends and family, talking about how ridiculous her recent visit to the grocerystore was and how everyone's breaking out and you just need to touch your faceand she clapped her face and that's the end of the video and it literallyis two and a half minutes long and it went freaking viral. It's notlike thirty million views now, but that weekend and when it was just popping, my boss do was like you have to find this woman, sign herand we're going to do a series about her, and I'm like what?And so I'm reaching out to I'm reaching out to her on all of hersocial media platforms. I start reaching out to her friends on her facebook page. I'm literally I called all of the hospitals in the area of Tennessee thatshe was in and I'm asking them, hi, do you know this nurse? Her name is this? Have you heard of her? And they're likenow. And finally I find someone who responds to me and is like,Oh, yeah, I know her, I'll send her a note, andthe next day she finally gets back to me and she's like hi, yeah, we can talk. Turns out she got my messages but she thought Iwas a scammers depleted them and the next day she's like whatever, I guessI'll take this call and if it's a scammer, then you know, itwasn't that big of a waste of time. But she got to meet me andstew and we told her, like, you know, we're producers out inLa and we make television shows and you're amazing and you deserve your ownshow and why not partner up. Will send you some equipment. We senther go pros and microphones and whatnot, and will will call in be agoogle hangout so we can direct you and set up your shot and whatnot,and let's do more. If people like what you have to say, thenwe know you must have more to say. And sure enough, of course she'sgot a lot to say. And so the show is called nursimily andit's on Youtube. It's Youtubecoma nurse Emily, and we're releasing episodes probably every twoto three times a week. They're still rolling out. They'll be rollingout through me and it's everything from just more rants from inside her car wherethe original one was made. There's another Flowna, where she's bumping conspiracy theorieslike drinking Lisa or whatever. Other segment called Nurses Office, where she's starts. She gives some information as a nurse on a coronavirus, all lighthearted.Everything is totally fun, light, funny entertainment. She is definitely not adoctor pouchy and she does not claim to be. And then one of theother segments is just interviews of celebrities. They're not working right now, they'reat home, they've got zoom. Why not column and talk about what they'redoing to pass the time. WHO's the kick cook in their house and andstuff like that. And so we yeah, we've interviewed John Russ Valley from BigBang theory. We've got tons more, though, and actually we have SarahLevy. Yeah, Sarah are a levy from Shit's creek, play twilight. We just interviewed her and so that's...

...going to be in a future episode, and then Madison Lynch, who's Naddie and Bosh. If you watch that, tons of actors. We booked tons of celebrity interviews, so those willstart rolling out in the next couple of weeks as well. And so we'vereally just taken a personality who we feel like is great on camera, hasa point of view that's unique and people like her and want to see moreof her. So we've given her a platform with a digital show. That'sso cool. That's like such an awesome way of finding someone and then makingsomething happen out of it. Have you found Woh, has it? Hasit been more difficult because of the current state of the world and and youknow, not being able to do things in person, or has it beenpretty smooth sailing? Oh, it was pretty difficult. I have to say, Emily, I love her and she's such a joy to work with,but she would totally agree with me that that first day we started filming,she is she does not claim herself to be a technically savvy person, andso we spent a good hour and a half just setting up for Gopro framingbecause it was like, oh, the lighting wasn't working. She was likeset in the wrong light settings and the framing wasn't right and every single timeshe moved the camera to show me the shot, then the camera would move, but it was just for me. I do so many productions where they'resuper diy and like I am not afraid to pick up a camera and shootmyself. I've shot some of our sizzle reels all on my own just becauseyou know, when you're trying to sell a show, you don't want tospend a lot of money on putting the pitch materials together, so I'll justdo it myself. And so I know my way around a camera enough andsound equipment enough to put together a good product. And when I'm working withsomeone who doesn't and I can't literally physically be there to just helps the cameraa little this way or angle a daughter help in any I'm just all Ican do is sit there on my side of the camera and wait and bepatient. And we were like what else aggravating thing ever, and then thego pro dies and then it's like, okay, this is not working.And once she got through that first day of filming, everything after that becamemore smooth because she got the flow of things and how to set up thecamera and win to press record and whatnot. But yeah, it was super difficult. At the beginning I was like, I don't know how we're going todo all these episodes together. This is so hard. We even talkedabout do we send someone to her house who's like younger and probably grew upwith an iphone in their hands so they really know what they're doing? Butwe couldn't because we didn't want to jeopardize anyone safety, we didn't want toin you know, intrude on her privacy, and so it really was like alearning curve for the both of us on how do you produce a selfshot, self produced digital series when you're physically not together at all? Well, I'm glad you persevered because I think she's a hoot and it's everything I'veseen it's been has been very entertaining. So looking forward to more coming out. Yeah, yeah, definitely more coming out. And this week right now, may six through me twelve, is nurses week. So she we arePR firm. Allied global have been working...

...with us to book her on aton of local news station interviews and local radio station interviews. She's doing likefive interviews a day, every day, all over the country. Albuquerquey,Atlanta, Chicago, San Francisco, she's everywhere. So it's been really niceto produce a show that's getting a lot of press. And then, inaddition to that, we partnered with Nurses House Fund, which is a nonprofitthat is helping nurses who are affected by coronavirus, and we're literally about tohit a million dollars donations, and so, yeah, it's been really great tobe able to promote that cause and be aligned with them and get theword out about that nonprofit. That is fantastic and a great cause. AndI'll overlook the fact that I didn't hear Austin on that list of cities thatshe's on interviews in, but it's for a good casually, I think oneof them was Austin. Yes, excellent, glad we're represented. Oh Yeah,and I do think like the southern regions are giving her more love becausethey are like you're one of us, that is for sure. But movingfrom emily back to you, I know you love the spotlight on you.You've said it many times throughout this episode. I always like to ask guests aquestion that they wish they were asked more frequently, and for yours itwas what's your best attribute? Oh my gosh, I thought my question waswhat kind of person are you at a live concert? Well, all right, let's let's do that. Then we get we can go what I wrote. I'm looking at it right now and it's not what you brow I probablyOh, I know what I was thinking when I wrote that. My bestattribute is my sense of humor. As she laughs hysterically, I really didwrite that because I was like, I love that I have a sense ofhumor. I think I had such a great I'm very witty and I'm smart, so I make smart jokes. I swear that was what was going throughmy head when I wrote that. I'm pretty sure, because I think mymom complimented me. She's like, you've always just been so funny. I'mlike think, mom. I mean that's just the only push anyone needs.Although now I want to hear your answer for what kind of person you areat a concert. Okay, well, I want you to guess first,because I've already told you that I don't like the spotlight. And I getreally shy. So what kind of person you think I am at a liveconcert? Well, based off that answer, it would sound like you'd be thetype of person to like hang out in the back, but I feellike a concerts you might get sort of this possessed energy and and you're tryingto climb to the front and are not opposed to like stage diving. Okay, not God, I don't go to a lot of life I when Iwas in often, of course would see live music all the time. Notso much here. But if I'm going to go to a concert, it'ssomeone that I really, really loved. The last concert I went to wasPeter Bjorn and John at the Peagram Ball Room here in La and I'm thekind of person that, because I'm I have spent money and time to seethis band, I'm going to be the first one. They're the first onein line, to make sure that I'm first one in front of the stage, not only because I love them but also because I'm for eleven and ifI'm anywhere else in the in the audience,...

I won't be able to see athing. So I have to put in the extra time to make sureI'm not the front. Then once I'm there in the concert gets started.I'm the kind of person, as live concert, who does what I liketo call the noodle dance, where you're like, you know, kind ofnoodling around, your whole body's moving, you're clearly into it, but you'rejust a little too shy to really like put your hands up in the air, you know, and maybe I'll like mumble the words to myself a littlebit, but I really like, for the most part, I've just likenoodling back and forth and really into the music. I mean that that all. I can picture it perfectly and it sounds simultaneously fantastic and a hundred percentspawn on so excellent. My theory with all the noodle dancers is that wereally do want to bust out and dance and really get into it, butwe're just too shy. I think that's fair. I would generally tend toagree, but I will say at new found glory shows, which just Imean that's a band I've loved for more than half of my life at thispoint and I still I still like am like a twelve year old hearing themfor the first time and just like jumping around everywhere and you know people arelike so sweaty and like bumping into each other, but it's just it's whichnormally I would hate. I like, that would be the worst thing inthe world, but for whatever reason I just like overlook it. It I'mlike, yes, let's yell at each other's faces, because that's what's rightright now. That's pretty, pretty great. I could see you. I couldsee you doing that. In fact, I think the night we met youwere pretty much doing that. It was just alone and you were onthe stage. That's true. Yeah, that was at Bruco, which sadlyno longer exists, but definitely, yeah, definitely good Karaoke spot, and youare probably not wrong. All right. Well, the other question I liketo ask is I always end with a top three, but why notlet the guest pick what they want their top three to be? And again, this is surely because of your great sense of humor, but you putthe top three ways to sleep with a cat. I do not have acat, but I know a lot of my audience members do, or perhapsthey have a dog and some of these steps or another pad. It doesn'thave to be a dog or cat. But what are your top three waysto sleep with a cat? Well, I think you more people have catsand we realize, and I think working on zoom has revealed, all ofour co workers and colleagues and acquaintances that we get on the phone with andall of a sudden their cat walks by in front of the screen on theirkeyboard and I'm like, Oh my God, I didn't I never would have thoughtthat Christine was a cat person. There's a cat. So a lotof people are closeted cat people. I'm not closeted. I've got an instagramfrom my cat and so I'm very proud to be a cat mom of two. And the top three ways to sleep with a cat are. One,they lay in between your legs and they love to be cuddled up in thatNice secure area, which is not fun for you because you literally can't moveunless you want to move them, which you don't want to do because they'reyour baby and they're happy they're the second way is for for them to beup closer to you by your chest so that you can bear hugs them withyour arm and totally bring them in, but they've got to be like SuperAsleep and down for whatever because not a lot of cats like to be heldlike that. And the Third Way to...

...sleep with a cat is to justBriam with a bottle and get them off the bed, because he's super annoyingand won't stop mewing at you. And sometimes you have to do that andyou feel really bad, but it's important that you get your good sleep.Those are all so good. I'm so old time to get a cat.I can hear my dog barking in the distance and upset that she's put upduring these episodes, but otherwise she'LD be getting into mischief and we cannot behaving any that. Yeah, no, see cats not as a genious.They love to claw on the Furnisher, but that's not as far as theygo. Yeah, that's I mean, who among us have not scratched ournails sharpen them on a Nice, Nice Velvety Sofa? Hey, what yougot to do right? Exactly well, and that thank you so much forhopping on. It is always a jewel way to chat with you. Andif people want to reach out, if they want to follow your cats onInstagram, how can they do it? My cats are at fifth and Chiquitaon Instagram and I am a net in Filba, in for Michelle, whoexcellent. I did not know what the M stood for. So now youhave educated me, and that is I mean. I we have it,not to say you hadn't beforehand, but especially now. Now I'm very educated. You're a scholar now, excellent, that's what I'm going for. And, of course, to wrap up with our Corny joke. This is nota smart joke. Actually, you know what it it's better than most ofmy bad jokes. Shout out to Brian Watson on twitter for giving me,giving me this fodder for this episode. Rope walks into the only bar intown. Bartender says we don't serve ropes here. The Rope believes, dejected, but then gets an idea, ties itself up, pulls itself apart atthe ends and walks back in. The bartender said, what did I tellyou? Aren't you a rope? Rope goes, I'm afraid not good afterit. Today people, yes,.

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