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Episode 52 · 8 months ago

Exploring New York City and Classic Photography with Ray Simone

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Ray Simone is a photographer and lifelong New Yorker, and he learned pretty early on the power of being curious and exploring your surroundings. In the 1970s and 80s, Ray often found himself at flea markets, garage sales, street fairs, and more all across New York City, buying all the negatives he could find.

Now, he's painstakingly digitizing these photos, retouching them pixel by pixel. The end result is a modern look at some classic images from the past 100 years (and sometimes even further back!).

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Good people, cool things in podcastfeature and conversations with entrepreneurs, writers, musicians andother creatives, get inspired by their stories to do your own coal, thikh andhere's. Your host Jhey help hello and welcome to good people coolthings. Today's guest is photographer and Lifelong New Yorker RACEA Moan, who,when Hewas just ten years old, found a photograph that really changed hisoutlook on photography, taking photos and finding the negatives of thesephotos, which he restores and Y'. His work is just so impressive. Heretouches these photos pixel by Pixel and has captured just so many goodmoments of New York. Here, he's got Frank: sonatrehe's got famous athleteshe's got pretty much any street. You can think of thousands upon thousandsof photographs. Ray has done some fantastic work on them. Some of theseglassplate negatives date as farmack as the IENS. A hundred thirty plus yearsandhe now INS, an amazing archive of original photos of Old New York. Thesebeautiful black and white photos not available anywhere else, definitely gocheck them out at photo gallery NYC we're talking all about race process.Some of the strangest deals and finds that he has come across some of theweird site CCS in New York, because hey that city is full of charm andsilliness and of course, history and nostalgia all that good stuff. So we'rehaving a great conversation and if you want to do a great thing, we'recelebrating one year of good people, cool things so head on over to themerch shop at good people, cool thingscom shop pick up some gear, a Mug.I mean it's twenty five degrees in Austin today. So I know my Mug iskeeping me super warm and cozy, as I poor, hot coco and coffee, and perhapsthe occasional bourbon into it, because...

...that warms up the soul in its ownspecial way so sit back. Relax enjoy this conversation with Raeamon forpeople who don't know who you are not familiar with your work. Can you giveus a quick little elevator pitch? I really love the look of days past and Istarted collecting photograps and I was very young. So at after I bcame aphotographer, I really got into collecting original camera negatives,the one that were that was in the camera when the photograph was takenand then, with those negatives I enjoy making really large fine art prince ofNew York City, Hollywood, sports, music. Anything that you know prior to the s Ireally enjoy doing oyou mentioned that you started collecting these. I, whenyou were very young, very young ten years old. Do you remember the firstphoto where you looked at and you're like yeah, the first photograph Ibought when I was ten, it was of the the bowery boys, the Eastside kids. Idon't know if you know who they are Awere, but they were. There were a group of of characters.They got their first start in the movie angels with dirty faces with JamesCagny. That's had the became famous, but they progressed intoto doing short movies. Basically New York City scenes from the IES and Hes kind of, like you know, like a low rollan hardy. Like you know, like a LO.You know those short, those short films they didn't they did. They did a coupleof fullink films, mostly shorts, like a grown up: little rascals, no okay, okay,nice, Nice Yeah and what? What was it about that photo that kind of flippedthe switch for you well hit was into the bowery boys because I'm from NewYork City, the bowery boys, the bowery, which is part of New York CityManhattan, not to you know like two miles from my house. One of the characters actually lived inmy father's building around the corner,...

...but I didn't find that out until later.So actually that was pretty a pretty interesting revelation: Wow, oh my God, one of theBawery Boys liveing in my house, but yeah. So then I then it was Oll. It'smostly Abene Costello, chaplain laural and hardy those n those three stooges.I was really collecting more and more of those those characters. So how- and I don't know if you know this downto the tea, but if you had to estimate how many photos you have in yourcollection, thousands, thousands THOUSD, thousands, thousands of phootographsthousands of negatives, tens of maybe negaget is now. Maybe you knowtenhousand or more wow, wow and you've pretty much scoured all over all overthe country, all over the city yeah, it's all over the city mo you know,mosty in the city, there was a time before New York. Shity got genturified,you know when, even if you're, not from New York, if you're, even if you werein an outsider in the s or the S, you would still think of even the sixties and the fifties youwould think of New York City as this. This metropolis, which it was is, butyou would never think of it as a Community Peo, generally speaking,wouldn't think of it as a community, but up until HMM mids, there was small likewithin the center of Manhattan. There was these little communities in withinthe city. Everyone knew e one an another. You know the went to thechurch, wot the SINNAGAGO. You know the local stories and Bodegas where peoplelived- and you know you know, people think of it today is is a tourish. Youknow is a tourist destination, but you know to us: It was home. You know everyevery part of the city was a home. There was an area in the city whichwould be sixth, Dar vevenue between Fourteen Street and thirty. FourthStreet. I don't know if yo're Fremili with Manhattan- and there was so manyparking lots that were used...

...for for business parking, not reallyfor tourism. Thate really wasn't all that much in those Ti e at that timeand people left. This is people, you know the stores closed, everybody wenthome parking lest were empty, so on weekends, mostly Saturday and Sunday,local peoples took all their stuff. They junk from their palm. Whateverthey were looking to sell is because theyidn't they didn't have garagesetbills. You know they didn have garage and then have you know still.They would bring thim to these empty parking lots so long at the evernuejust sell oll their all their wearers, whatever they want to get rid of. So mystudio was right in the center of that, so I would walk from one parking lot tothe next once to the next one to the next one tuming through stuff, and thenI found my first negative mid to late S. I said Wow, I've alwayscollected I'v, always cloking the photogriphs, an of et clicked atneggatives before, but now I'm a photographer. So now ' I'm looking atit and a photographer's point o view as as opposed to a photograph collected,and I just bought one and then I just kept buying and I kept buying and itjust come through and then it became. I Don' want to say an addiction, but youknow compulsion is just, but I just kept buying more and more, and I justsat on him for years. It's like wow. Look at this. You know. Look at this isis this is a great shot of New York City back in you, O one thousand ninehundred and fifty nineteen one thousand nine hundred nd Twe Oud nineteen, tenwow, that's amazing, you know and and yeah that's how that that's, how thatsickness started sickness. That's committed describe it,but that's is this just too much I I got tons little bit of place again and as you're looking at Desen andthumbing through, is there a certain thing that you're looking for or is itjust kind of like hey? This is cool. It catches your eye. Well, yes, you know.First, I want to make sure that it's something that's workable, right,something that', that's printiple, something that's Haid, either overlyoverexposed or Ovelly underexposed, the short Answirg. You want to look atthe subject matter. First Right, you...

...now why what is what is this of so Ilove I mean I'm like I say, I'm born and raised in Manhattan at New YorkCity, so I I was always primarily loking for New York City scenes because I just love the city so muchand then I'm itually cal see from my background, I'm really into Hollywood,the old, the old slapstick old Hollywood silver screen. You know youknow, prior to the method, actors of the Y S and s te ones of like you know, Jimmy Stewart,James Cagny and this yoold slapstick chaplain Mourland Hardy, be so thosecharacters really into collecting and looking for, but primarily it was NewYork City scenes fantastic and has there ever been? Imean I assume you're going to beyond these empty parking lots things likeflea markets and maybe youre no OI yeah. Also, if I'mdriving the car and my I got to stop here, I got a even if it's for a minuteand the thing is as far as negatives, a Concerne to wassomething that I think that has been overlooked. As far as in a collectorstandpoint, I mean everybody's looking, for you know the the Frar Brige Eg Letsa, just forargument's sake, nobody's people just overlookednegatives. For for ages. You know the I've gotten I've bought iithink. I paid a dollar one time for aforto album of these cars from Li e, one thousandnine hundred and ten I'm like wow. I bought this photo album for a dollarand these photographs that were printed. I in thousand ninetunere n Ho sand nineTuee n fifteen. I mean theyere proctically steam, engined cars and I think people you know maybe maybewould have jumped on that, but but but overlook the box that you know a lot oftimes. You find a box with just you know old photographs in it. But thenyou look on the bottom and the negatives arn. There then theyre inusually many times, theyre in sleeves, like wow, and then I look at Yo, holdit up to the light and say wow. What...

...now N can make a print out of this? Youknow the old camera negatives are a lot larger than th. Thirty, five milimedesthat you're, probably familiar with thirty five millimetis, is basically alittle bit bigger than a postage damp. You know, Priat to generally speaking N T S. ther are alot larger two and a quarter, two two and a half inches by two and a halfinches twoand, a quarter by two hundre quarters, shes, four by five inches, eight by tennegatives, and these are really big five by seven four by six, the numbersthey change, depending upon who the manufacture of the camera and and thefilm was, but I'm bringing that up because the larger the negative, thehigher quality the print you're going to make. So if you could find a reallygood quality gate by ten negative, I mean you can make something as sharp asyou get to get. You could print it vis for time square. You know thirty, fivemillionmeter, you, maybe you make get it make a a poster size. You know maybea little bit smaller, but more or less as far as being tight and sharp andclear- and you know hd the everybody likes I the wordhd now, but you know,but if you get it a five by seven negative, I could I could makesomething: Hd huge y ow size of a house, and so I guess that secways intoanother question, you mention how some sometimes it's overexposed orunderexposed and just generally how much retouching goes into what you'recreating so much, especially the person who handled them. I mean you know, youknow you would like you would have loved for the person to have. You knowtaken the photograph put it to the developer. They bring it into. You know,will wax Leeve, they weren't using plastic back. Then they were papersleeves or Wax Leeve, and you would you hoped that they, you know just kept it there. Unfortunately, alot of times it scratched it's dusty, it's torn, it's bent its. So you knowif it's cared for if it was kept in a...

...you know, you know low humidity. Youknow di how it wesstored, also Difi developing, is very important too. Ifsometimes you get people that develope the film themselves and then maybe atthey left it. You know it goes through a process of three if they did one toomuch or two less you get tdeterioration in it. So you know it's all. It'sthere's a lot of factors that are that are putee's, a lot of factors that arein it and then you know, hopefully, if all the things everything is right, youknow you cund get an amazing photograph. You know the old Holllywood ones,they're usually developed properly. They usually storedproperly, and you know, unless somebody, U know, dropped it in the street andgot run over by a semi. You get to get something really good out of it. It'scan you kind of give us a look at at your process as Youre retouching. Oneof these or or does it vary by by the photo? It varies it verit varies. Itvaries by the photograph, you know and then, of course like justdiscussing you know how it was cared for so some require. You know. I have worked on some for forty hours,forty plus hours, on one on one negative to make. You know to make aprint there's a a great image that I I got from someone paid for didn't getit I paid for it, but the person must have thought wow. He really can't getmuch out of it. I was Franks, not you're, sitting at a piano with sheet music Ling on the piano, but the thing was there was two menstanding directly next him and they're looking into the camera. Youknow I'll. Let this go because look at these two guys. You know standing there,Oyou're not going to get much out of it and I'm looking at it go. Everything isperfect. He's wearing his fe dor he's sitting at a piano this sheet, music,it's gorgeous. I have to have his, so you know I paid money for it, but Ididn't pay as much that as it was worth. However,...

I had a draw I couldn't I couldn't editthem out with just a crop, because if I cropped aut them being that they wereright beside him, if I cropped them out, you would have lost all the sheet music.You would have lost. Two thirds of the piano it would have been. Offbalance of thephotograph would not have been as rich as it being nice and wide with thepiano when e sheep missing in front of it. So it took me forty hours to drawthose two men beside him staring into the camera out. It was you know. Maybe forty could havebeen fifty hours. I you know I losed track after a while, but it was atleast forty who's. At least forty hours and I've been told once I've been tolla thousand times, it looks like an album cover. You know, it's isbeautiful. You know whatit's the door just sitting there at the piano, it'sbeautiful yeah, so it's a long. It could be a long process it you knowit's. You know very rarely if somebody Goit to let something go that doesn't require a lot of work. Youknow it's usually this usually a lot of work, invulted yeah, the end resultthat is so so beautiful, so I'll. Send that I'll send it to you the image I'll,send you thet before in the aftern. You can see that the difference between thetwo have you shown the the end result to the folks you buythese negatives from. I think there was only one guy ther's. A one. Interestingstory was almost like a drug deal. I'm tellingo like a drug deal this to the way that t it the way that itsounds because so you know you get you get put in this loop of othercollectors, so you have like you're in the circuit of collectors. Like I havea friend of my the Michellin man, he collects the Michellan man. I don'tcollect Micheller man. If the Misialaman look right by me, I wouldn'tgive him the Mischllaman, I'm thinking look. He collects anything andeverything related to the Michellan man, because it goes back. One thousand ninehundred ndred fine, good hit's great everybody- has bet ther into so anyhow.So if he has, if I know some of this, had he that has something Michel, aI'll call him a pay dude, you know th...

...this Michlin, this guys got thes stuffthem now. You know you be interesting, you know all about it, but then thenthere's othe pople do thesame thing. For me: Hey Ray, you know I fou Tha guyw has these negatives and then you know so this one guy contacts me and hes. OhYeah, have I have a negative of a trolley from glass. Degative D hecouldhe couldn'tdate it, but I could would you be interested in it. So Isaid yes, Yo. Send me a photo. Oh Yeah Right, so I sent him the money. He mailed me thenegative and then I looked at it go man. This is amazing, again another fortyfifty hours of work. For some reason I said I couldn't letit go. I called the Guy Backus as dude. You have any do in. Would you find thisHo have anymore, because I have a box of thirty five, a Fox on thirty fiveWhan't. You tell me that goes yeah. It goes meet me on Long Island, I'm in aparking lot. He goes and I'll meet you in this park. Ang Latin, I'm like allright where it wasn it was at in Roseville field. I drive my car at theRoso field and Bi told him where I was par people up behind me. I had open up.My trunke opens up his drunk. I gave him this money took the box anrihtiswhat. Are we doing here my buying a kilo or something? But no it was. Itwas a bock that he had bought a house and in the closet was this box ofnegatives glass, plate negatives, fom, one thousand nine hundred and nonethousand nine hudred and fifteen of the of the trolly conductors on theirtrolleys in Manhattan and they're beautiful. But you know who would ifyou know if you were half a block away, looking through throu a telescope us,Oh, my God, these guys are doing the drug deal. It was negatives, go figure so yeah. Soyou know you get you get you get into a circuit of people. I had a woman. Justcall me the other day HA. I have some negaatives, I be IV you're interestedin buying, so I have to call it back. I bought an acoustic guitar and a parkinglot, one time to a very similar story, but- and it was like one pm in theafternoon- and there were other people there, but I still felt like so shake.There's, there's a there's, a machine gud in that guitarcade yeah and I'myeah. Now I'm carrying contraband as...

I'm going back to AC office. Crazy, andalso I hear stories of this sometimes of you know you bought a house or likeyou're, running a place you're. What like and stumbling upon something likethis and I'm just thinking all I had were empty closets. I think maybe I E NHeard Ka. I Al This pion this building and my fatheris around the corner andI've get I get invited to m. You know because people know that I'm acollector, you know you want to look through. My house and stuff have founda lot of stuff. Over the years I found in this building. I found a a revolverin the in my fireplace from the Revolveris from well as a bulldog. Ithink it was, I think it's deighthded ND. Ninety, I think it was Oueightendred Niney, then D, ighty, five, either the parking lot or finding arevolver in the fireplace is that the most obscure spot you've foundsomething in your collection. In my garden, you you did because S, you knowI'm right. Basically, a couple blocks from Manhattan Yeah, you know you find coins and stuffin the dirt. You Know People's peopls homes and people's. I the neighbor nextdoor. I went to his attic AES right help yourself and this right. Next toor e was God to Tathat he was tearing the house down. You help yourself look around. I went intothe attic and I still have it and I opened up the the insulation in his Zattic from thefrom the yeah and then I found comic books and I found a superman comic bookand I'm like Oh dude, please be number one somewhere in here. I went throughthe wholeplace. I found three comic books. There was a superman from oneThousan S, O was, it was all raggey it was. I was like, Oh man, but this ishow people find these things that we were just referring to it. Sometimesthere's the Guy Ho finds this supermane number one. It's worth a million and ahalf two million dollars, but no mine were all raggety and Brittles and theminute I picked it up. It was kind of like flaking, so it happens, it's therthey're still out there. These things...

...are still out there. I think I mightneed to go. Look at my attic after this, I think, might be yeah seriously there,one guy the one guy was. I think it was in the Midwest. He bought a house andhe broke a wall down because I ent to Hollywood and the person that he boughtthe house from was a movie theater owner and he used the the movie posters as his ininsulation.So the whole house behind the walls, was all movie posters in theinsullation worth millions of dollars, wow just sitting and who you know who hathought would be postes. You know in the twets, and s would be worth thatmuch kind of money, but they are now. Oh, it's always amazing what is worth money and then you, I remember,having a book of Beenie babies and Dadacting yeah predicting likethousands of dollars like even the worst ones, would still be worthhundreds o right Lis, I'm like, if only because my sister and I guess, to alesser extent me, but more so my sister collected so many of those and we Imean we still have huge tubs of them but and thene noteven worth that much anymore. No, no! I NOT E, probably not even worth the thecontainers that they're in probably yeah. This is a sad thing, because mynephew did the same thing: They just a they lost it. They looked.Thit was all hyped up. You know like the cabbage patch dolls, they were help.They were hyped up and people jumped on the hype and savely that I just don'thave the value anymore, still still nice to look through every once in awhile, absolutely dramin. I finer right good times good times, and so we weretalking before we were recording about cities that are on your list to visit.Are there any kind of photographs or types of photographs or othercollectibles? Besides Superman number one that are kind of on your like? Oh,this would be so good list. I have a wonderful photorop of Chicago to livein Chicago freyear and a half during...

...the time I like in the military, and I do like Chicago. I do like New Orleans, but but if I wish tolook betternegative of New York City, I could pretty. Icould nearly identify exactly where that is, and when that is, I probablycouldn't do that within the other anywhere else so, and and and and my love and a lore forthe city, so other other cities. Yes, but do I have the knowledge you know ofyou know State Street, you know of Bourbon Street, although I know thestreets and maybe those two streets I could probably identify, but one of theside streets I probably couldn't but New York City. I could pretty muchpinpoint you know when an where that is, and I just you know- and you know Iwalk through it every day. It's you know, it's the it's been the backdrapof my life. has there ever been a photo or a negative you've gotten that youspent thirty forty fifty hours trying to ettach and then just couldn't get itto look how you wanted to I've been on one of of Ba Ruth and Lugerick on the field in their altar ego uniforms. Is that N,the Yankeing Teform, so one is the Bab of goodness gracious lose something orother and bape something or whether it's not the Yankee uniform and I've been working on that photographand I've been working on it and it's a beautiful. You know if it was completely redone, it would be as asnice as of anything you could get, but it is so deteriorated. I had to stepaway. I just I had a step away I'll, send I'll, sendyou that I'Llso F, I kind of get the opportunity alsenity. Just Se. You knowit's a beautiful shot, but it's just so much work. It is, it was it was, itwasn't cared for the negative wasn't loved...

...and you mentioned stepping away. Do youhave, because I think this is especially now with all of us workingfrom home remote work being a common thing of kind of stepping away fromwork, taking breaks from work? Do you have a good, either quarantine, hobbyor like a way when you can kind of disconnect from your work? And I warkevery day I do between five and ten miles in the city. That's you know mylofe of the city. I dobetween five and ten miles every day in the city, so Iusually leave my house in the afternoon and I'm gone for two hours. I chooseone of the bridges. There was basically four bridges that take you over intoManattan. There's the Brooklyn, the Manhattan, the Williamsburg in thefiftyninth street bridge. So you know I don't I don't necessarilyflip a coin, because there are four bridges, but I choose one and I'll walkover that one and thei'll work. My Way to you know to one of the subways and then you know, head backhomes I'll, go up toHarlham or I'll go down to the financial district or I'll go to thewest side. Orwel. Maybe O'll go upper east side. So, like I said, that's why I said youwere just a couple of minutes ago. If I look at a photograph, I could prettymuch ientify more or less. You know where, where that image is, and thenyou know by looking at it and I could pretty much take by the lamp posts orby the cars or they'll be somela and Mork Yo'll be able to you know, figureout more or less. You know what your I is in Al so by the film that film helpsyou identifie as well. If I said it was a glass Negativi glass play negative,you know people pretty much stopped using them n on Thousan nine hndred D,tenty Ne Thousand Nine hundred an thirty. You know they went to gelatine,but although people still use them in thetes and es, but generally speaking, you know you get an idea. You K ow when it was, do you bring your camera with you onthese walks or o Yso? I do I always im working at my walks every day, yeah andI'm shooting you know people on the street or something that's interesting,something bizarre that is New York City. There's,always something there's always something in the going on the sea thatyou could fote over. What's your most...

...recent, that's Huh! That's somethingmoment a girl sitting at a table with a man with a horsehead on him, Hoas that for you thats that Wa, that'spretty good. It's very good! I actually just got one of those. My friend, abunch of friends did a virtual secret SANA and he got he found a horsehead somewhere and sentit to me. I wasn't even his secret saying it, but he sent it to me becausehe was like, I think, you'd enjoy this and I'm just like. Well, I guess I owna horse aid now and got to wear it once for a a themed party of be yourfavorite Netflix character and so had been recently been watching. BojackHorseman, O rewatching. I should say- and I was like you know what it's not my favorite show, but it'sdefinitely up there. It's a very good show, and what am I going to get to putthis horsehead on so just put the put the horse head on, got his blue shirtand a little blazer and passable. You just got to carry aroundwhiskey too, because that's his Asama sa just carry abottle whiskey with ahorse head and that hell I wasn't out in public with it. But I imagine it'sprobably a similar sin and it wasn't Halloween, so it was just like a coupleweeks ago. So yeah it was still. It was January, mid January. It's pretty great.I agree, though I think that's a pretty uniquely New York thing of just kind oflike you'll, see something that anywhere else youd be like that'sreally kind of weird and out of place, but here it's just like well t', that'sjust another day, just yeah, exactly exactly and again the smigt Segui nicely. YouKnow New York, like the back of your hand. Absolutely I always like to havea top three in my episodes and I'd love to hear just your top three spots inNew York to go to n. If you can narrow it down. No, I couldihai dot D and,oddly enough, the pretty much parks central Tark is one of the mostbeautiful I have traveled. The World Central Park is probably e one of themost beautiful places on earth.

I would you know I would put it up. Iwould put it up against any place as far as beauty. You know, th theConservatives really take fabulous care of thecinity the park. It is absolutelyit is hat. It is a gym. So without a question of a dobt, it's centralParkers, pretty much at or near the very, very top I watctin square parkbecause you know you cul get the woman with the Horse head. You know, sitting, U know sitting there with ahorsehead so and that's where I spent a lot of my misspent youth in theWashington script park and anywhere between the East village andthe West Village Yau Kno. I lived in the Es village for quite some time andthey and I don't want to say glory days, I'll call them the gory days of you know. You know the hardcore punk.You know the days of you know the remones and Blondi, and you know backin the LAK s early es, which were the gory days so yeah the gory days oftheest village Ar then the the nice end of the West village, so yeah that sohes wrest village, East Washington Square Central Park, very nice verynace. I still central park it during the winter is still on my list ofplaces. I'd love to see every time I've been in New York, it's been eitherspring or summer. So absolute need to get out. You could there? Is thereisn't a day or a time, brain snow, sunshine, heat, humidity, cold? Any time it's IT'S A beautiful! It's awonderful place! Yeah! I will cosigne even even for Non New Yorker, notnative New Yorkers. Like Ma Cosign, I think yeah. I think all of those areour fantast and you could be intresed. Wou could be this. You know this. Alittle sweet spot, maybe is by the Bilvier Castle, where you won't hear asiren. You know you won't hear you know you know you'll. He may may hear people,but you won't hear any of the the craziness is going on in the on theperimeter. Well right, thank you. So much for taken the time to homp on andChet its my pleasure. It Er happy to do...

...it if people want to want to check outyour work. We've touched on a few of the photos, but there are so many Bainones, so my website is photo Galilery, nd yccom and I'm still uploading. YouKnow Yo kin if there's something specifically looking for. I still havethousands here that I have not yet worked on, but I work on them every day, as well as my instagram, which isNycdot, clistic shots, fantastic and yes, I highly recommendchecking both those a t, everyone listening because they are, they arelike really impressive. Thank you so much I as as someone that likes youknow, I admire photography for sure. I have never claimed to be good at it,but I think it's just a lost. It was your now than it was when I wasstarting. You know you were you were in just a photographe R. You were atechnician now you could. Just you know,photograph this delete, Redo, delete you know, but back then there was no.There was no delete, but oh that's how I always loved, like the Barmitas andweddings, where they'd put the disposable cameras like you'd get somany good gems in there absolutely have no idea what you somebody's going topick up and find yeah for sure yeah. We always had a bit where wed go around. You know, I'm sure we're notthe only people that do this. I imagine this is a common trop, but atespecially at the Barmetvos just growing up and going I mean I never hada Barmetpo because I'm not Jewish, but I most of my friends were so we'd go toa lot of them. There'd always be some running gag of us. You know posing likereally really just like ridiculous poses we're not usually wearing, suitsand ties, and so we're, like you know like pulling ourselves up by thenecktie and all that nonsense, and I'm glad I think that I've never seen theend result of this but m happy that other people have for sure. I like tolook at those photographs one day. Maybe I could get mans on the negatives.Yes, let's I'll reach out all my...

...friends I'll see what they've got,hopefully, hopefully some pristine gems still in there sweet good deal. I any future projects thatyou want to be a teasing or just ib like I'm still were I'm still everyevery day is a every day is another another day of working on an image. Soyou Kno, you eve, know it's going to come up tomorrow, Obut I'll, findtomorrow. That's true yeah! You can you can plan out your week and then stumbleinto something amazing, absolutely always a good time Wellrhi. Thank youso much Lik. Thank you so very much. I really appreciate that. I enjoyedmeeting Yit likewise likewise and, of course, we got ta wrap up with e Cornyjoke. I even made it photography theme I actually started out as a photographer, but Ihad to give it up because I just kept losing focus and after tday people very good joke. Good people, coolthings is produced in Austin Texas, you dog. This episode go ahead and hit thatsubscribe button, whether you're on apple podcast, spotify, stitcher, pod,chaser or any other podcast aff. I want to keep delivering great content to you.You want to keep hearing it tap that subscribe button. We'll see you nexttime.

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