Good People, Cool Things
Good People, Cool Things

Episode 7 · 1 year ago

You've Got This! Trusting Yourself with Author and Speaker Maggie Warrell


Believe in the power of trusting yourself – it'll take you far.

That's certainly an underlying theme of Margie Warrell's new book, You've Got This! The Life-Changing Power of Trusting Yourself, a handbook for learning to thrive in today's pressure laden and uncertain world.

Welcome to good people, cool things, the podcast featuring conversations with entrepreneurs, writers, musicians and other creatives.I'm your host, Joey held, and today's guest is Margie Worrel, authorof the new book you've got this, the life changing power of trusting yourself. It's a handbook for the learning to thrive in today's pressure late in anuncertain world, and it's gotten maybe one of the best sort of plugs I'veever heard for a book from fellow author Jim who'ss who says it's like ahigh five to the human spirit, and if that doesn't get you motivated,I don't know what will. But we've got plenty to chat about in thisepisode, including why having a little self doubt isn't the worst thing in theworld. Small things you can do to improve any situation we are feeling hopeless. And, of course, as we're both travel jet setters, although margieis a lot more has seen a lot more places than I have. Forsure, she shares some of her favorite destinations and things you have to dowhile you're there. Let's dive on it. The phrase you've got this is oneover the last. You know twenty years or so I've I've lived aroundthe world and I've juggled raising four kids and pursuing my work, you know, impowering other people, and lots of times when I've had moments of doubts, people have said to me, Maggie, you've got this. My husband hasbeen probably chief among those people. And then in the last few yearsI've dealt with a ton of disruption and uncertainty. We've had some unexpected movesand some challenges and I really just particularly enjoyed people saying and value people sayingyou've got this. And so I guess you could say that it's the bookthat I wanted to read. It's the book that I wanted to pick upand read when those moments I'm like, have I got this? Is itall going to be okay? I mean, do I really have what it takes? And so that's how it came into being. And and because ofthe work I do with other people, I know so often I meet peopleand they want to hear those words. You know that don't necess not necessarilyexplicitly those words, but you know that it that sentiment of you've got this, you've got the ability to do what you want to do and to copewith whatever challenges are coming your way. Absolutely, and I think that's agood way to go about writing a book. Is What would I want to read. And then, as you're chatting with people and learn that they havea lot of similar interests and desire to read the same kind of things,I think that's a good avenue to take. Yeah, you know what joy Ihave? I didn't grow up saying I want to be a writer orI want to write books. In fact, that actually never occurred to me,to be honest with you. I grew up in rural Australia. Iwent to a school, my elementary school, as the only kid in my grade. It had like fifteen kids in the whole school. I I wasnever someone who said, Oh, yes, you know, I'm called to bea writer in the world. However, I do feel a really strong callingaround helping people rise above the fees and doubts that get in their way, and so writing books is a way, is one of the ways that Ifeel called to share my insights and message in the world and and sohence that's also kind of how it came into being. Absolutely, and Ithink that's a great sort of mindset of having of wanting to help other people, and is there something that a person can do? I'm thinking again.You know, coronavirus is kind of dominating the headlines, hearing people panic aboutit. Situations might seem hopeless to some people or, you know, downin the dumps for others, but if you can shift your mindset a littlebit, maybe it won't seem so hopeless. So what's a small thing that someonecan do right now to improve any kind of situation where it does feelhopeless or kind of a downer? Yeah, no, it's interesting to your pointon coronavirus or covid nineteen right now.

It's interesting when I wrote this book, I mean of course I had no idea I'd be launching this bookin the middle of what has been one of the most sizemic events in recenthistories. You have for people around the globe, and so it's it's it'salmost perfect timing. I mean it's bad timing and that so many events Iwas speaking at events around the world and I'm supposed to be talked doing awhole book to around the US in April and right now there's like huge questionmarks hanging on a lot of events, so maybe I'll do it take two. However, the number one thing is, it's what I'm doing myself right now, as all these events are being canceled, is it's just focusing onwhat's inside my control and focusing on what helps me feel stronger mentally, physically, emotionally and spiritually. And I would say that to anyone right now who'sfinding themselves feeling anxious and ungrounded and and it's that with a lot of uncertainty, is what's inside your control right now, and I think when we do thosethings, more of those things, like really double down on whatever itis that helps you feel better in yourself. So maybe that's doing a meditation,maybe that's getting out and going for a walk in nature or going fora run, maybe that's reading something that's uplifting, listening to podcasts are uplifting. Hopefully this one so so. So I think that's a super important thing. And Watch, and I mean just to kind of add something else inthere, just exit out of conversations and forums that dial up your anxiety issitting there watching cable news all day leaves you feeling tight in the chest.Turn the television off. I mean that it's not going to change the what'sgoing on out there, but it's actually going to help change you. Andit makes me think of Victor Frankel's advice that, you know, when youcan't change your circumstances around you, you we have to change ourselves. Andso to anyone that's kind of feeling anxious, like, look at what it isthat you can do that will help you bring your best self to thechallenges at hand. I think that's a great reminder that if something is makingyou feel anxious or unpleasant, that if you can remove yourself from it,go ahead and do it. There's been many times where I'll be either readingsomething online or watching TV like that and after I mean, admittedly, sometimesit's after many minutes. It should be after like a minute, but I'mjust like, why am I why am I looking at this? Like thisisn't providing me any comfort, this is just I could be going to bedor, like what's, taking a walk or doing anything else that's more productive. And when I have that realization to make that switch, I do findjust more positive positivity just coursing through my veins. Yeah, absolutely, andI think you know it's easy just to sit there scrolling along your phone,new speeds, isn't it? On Your smartphone, you know, I justsit there sort of just scrolling along, and often we sort of get intothis almost numb, sort of catatonic state. But right now, when, orany time, I think, when we're dealing with a challenge, somethingthat's that's that's that's darling up our fear in some way or our self doubtin some way. And yes, it maybe, you know, the bigglobal what interruptions going on, or it might be just a challenges at work, challenges with someone in your family. I think it's those times when wereally feel more pressure on us that we actually have to be that much moredeliberate in how we're going about our days. And you know so for me,for instance, writing in my journal, I find that an incredibly helpful wayto process my emotions and to reframe the situation, I mean, andin a positive way. That leaves me feeling empowered and optimistic and yeah,I've got this, I can figure this out, I'll get through this,and what's a way for me to turn it into a win. So youmight even say that having self doubt can be beneficial in some circumstances because ofthat ability to turn it around. Yeah,...

...look, all of us have theability to rise above our doubts and and I wouldn't do the work thatI do if if it wasn't for the doubts that I've had. So inthat way, so you know, if I never ever had a moment's hesitationand never doubted myself, I certainly wouldn't be doing the work I am.Because, you know, it's in having to overcome that myself that I havefelt so passionate and call to help other people do the same, because Isee how much it can hold us back. And I think that's where it's importantsometimes, you know, to to just recognize doubt. It's just partand parcel of being human. Maybe, if you've got a little voice inyour head, and most of us do, give it a name. You know, Yep, there you go again. You know, Debbie down out youknow you're trying to you trying to pull me down and keep me fromputting myself out there and doing what feels most truthful to me. And so, you know, part of what I wanted to make sure I included inmy book. You've got this were, you know, taking tools from weknow that work for people through psychology, that actually help people to reclaim thepower that we so often give to our fears and our doubts. Flu Ilove it. I love it, and you mentioned how you've kind of encounteredthis along the way and I think you do have a pretty fascinating story withall of your world travels, as you mentioned, raising four children. Socan you just kind of talk a little bit about your background and how it'sgotten you to where you are today? Yeah, yeah, so I grewup big sister of seven kids on a small dairy farm in rural southeastern Australiaand so my dad milked cows for nearly fifty years. My Mom, youknow, just raised US kids and so growing up, honestly, my horizonsextended not much further than the back paddock of our farm and which was twohundred acres, and you know, we didn't travel very far. There wasn'tvery much money. It was a pretty simple childhood. But as I wasfinishing high school and I just had a feeling, I just thought there's aa lot more world out there that I know is waiting to be explored andI don't want to spend my life living in as lovely as the rural areais. It's a beautiful area in eskipps land of Australia, but I thoughtI just I don't want to spend my life here. I feel like there'sa whole lot more and so I went moved to Melbourne and went to universityand I was the first in my family to ever go to university, whichin itself for me was sort of defying the norms and the expectations of youknow, that others had. It was. My parents wouldn't have thought twice ifI'd left school early and become a hairdresser or, you know, donesomething that wasn't wasn't as as ambitious as what I've ultimately done. And then, after finishing college, I worked hard of a couple jobs and, withsome travelers checks, got a backpack and traveled around the world for a yearon my own at twenty one. And you know that. I guess thestory continues from there with eventually meeting my husband. We've lived in four countriesaround the world. We've had four children, several of which are now at collegein the United States and and so yeah, I've had, I've I'veI've continually stepped outside my comfort zone and chosen the path of curiosity and adventure. And what is it that inspired me over what sort of felt safe andsecure? And so along the way, what I've learned is that most ofus are capable of a lot more than we think, and we so oftenand sell ourselves short by thinking we can't do things, when in fact weactually can do them. It's just our own false belief in our fears thathim our lives in okay, I want to, I want to continue downthat path, but I do have to ask because you would mention that yourthis is a very, very side tangent. I am going to warn you,but you mentioned that your father milked cows for fifty years and I remembermeeting someone that lived on a farm one...

...time who said that the best activityon a farm was milking cows. He found it very soothing. Is thattrue or is this guy just crazy? Look, I think if you wereonly doing it every now and again, maybe, but I think my fatherprobably got pretty tired of it and I know you know as as kids wewould go and help every now and again. Of course there was we would putthese, you know, like the cups on these on the cows outof so that you didn't actually do it. We weren't doing it with our ownfingers, our own hands. So but I think there's probably something tothat. But I think if you had to do it every morning and nightfor most of your pretty much all your working life, you'd probably go yeah, okay, I could. It's not something that I wanted to do.Okay, that's right. I just I just had a now high I haveno experience with it. So and it's I made someone that's for some reasonthat is stuck with me, even though that was a conversation probably seven oreight years ago now. But getting back to the more important message here isthat you can do do things that maybe you thought you couldn't. And Ithink what you've done in traveling around the world and getting to see all thesecool sites, which we will get to some of your favorites a little laterin the PODCAST, but getting to do all this it is certainly a dreamfor a lot of people and getting to travel and see the world or followwhatever passion they have. But especially nowadays, it seems like jobs just change veryrapidly, gone are the days of working fifty years in the same profession. You know, you're hopping from job to job, sometimes from industry toindustry. So is there any kind of future proofing you need to do foryour career or methods that people can use to achieve these kind of passions ortravel or whatever they want to do when they think that maybe they can't doit? Yeah, I think that, when these lots of things I thinkwe can be doing to help future proof our career is, and I liketo think of it as just focusing in on, you know, the valuethat you have to bring for others. You know, your ability to solveproblems and to meet needs, and how can we continually be ensuring that we'rewell positioned and even our own how how other people perceive us in our abilityto solve problems and mat needs, you know, in whatever area that wemight be working with. You know, some people are there in technology andthey're drawing on a strength because they're great at coding or they're great systems analysisor whatever it is, and I think just just be looking at what canyou do for yourself, that inch that that ups the ante on your ownyour ability to help other people be more successful, and that is solving problemsand and and meeting needs in some way, shape or form. And so bereally conscious, I think, as we go through our careers we cannever be complacent on that. I think we also need to be really proactivein building strong networks and surrounding ourselves with people who lift us up and avoidingand minimizing time with those who don't. And if you're in a place whereyou're feeling pulled down all the time, doing something about that, because wheneverI but we can't thrive when we're not in an environment that's drawing on ourstrengths and helping us feel a greater sense of purpose and and appreciate valued inwhat we're doing. To and, of course, just you know, obviously, to back to the theme of you've got this trusting in our talents andour strengths. I have a whole chapter on that, because I think oftenwe second guess our strengths and talents and we don't trust that actually, thisthing that I really love to do, I feel cool to do, isis something that we we can do, but often we can get bit stuckin the think the way we think we're going to do it. And soI know for me, for instance, I love connecting with people, Ilove impowering people. I love helping people get present to the price they're payingfor the choices they're making. Some people... that through technology, through ifthey come up with with apps that are really empowering some people. I'm nota I'm not a technologist, but but I'm great at speaking. I'm greatat connecting with people in person and through my words. Some people are brilliantone on one coaches, some people run seminars. So I just think,whatever it is you're doing, think about how you can do that in themost impactful way that others will value the most. How can you draw onyour strengths and your ability to connect and and add value? I think that'sgreat and I really like the note of building up your network as well.And I've seen so many times we're I'll meet someone and not even necessarily anetworking environment. I believe I've told this story on a previous podcast, buthopefully it's not too repetitive to listeners of this podcast, that I just happenedto be walking by a House here in Austin during South by southwest that hada sort of breakfast and live music event going on and I just was walkingby and heard the music and I was like, oh, that sounds kindof good. I'll I'll go check on and see what this is about,and ended up meeting someone that, a year and a half later, reachedout to me and I asked if I wanted to contribute some written content tothe company that she was working for. So a lot of different content,marketing kind of stuff, and this was, like I said, a year anda half after meeting her, but we had just made, you know, that strong connection and stayed in touch and then when the opportunity was there, she was like, Hey, Joey's a good person for this, andto this day I'm still working with the company. So you never know whenopportunity can strike. And so building those relationships, and I think it's keyto state that you're not immediately selling to like you want to build an actualrelationship. You don't want to come on too strong and say, Hey,I'm the perfect person for this. Yeah, it's get to know each other first. Yeah, I mean no, no one likes to be sold tounless they're in a well less they've walked into a shop and they actually wantto be sold to it. Even then, I and they even then. Wedon't want to be sold to, but you know, we want tothink people are genuine in connecting and building that relationship. And I mean,as I shared with you, I've lived in lots of places around the worldand I remember moving to Dallas, Texas just after eleven and I three littlekids I had. I didn't know anyone for tenzero miles, and then Idecided after about two years, to launch a business, then my coaching business. Well, you know, I was all about having to go out andmeet people and make connections and I've had to do that now in multiple continentsbecause I've continued. You're living around the world and you know the power ofrelationship, of forming genuine relationships when people know that you know you're a realperson and you're not just there to try and get something from them, butyou're there to give as well, genuinely give. How can I what canI do to support and get to know this person? You know that cancome across. We have it. We have an in build bs detector andI think we can tell when people are disingenuous. I like that a builtand BS detector because, yeah, there are definitely times where I'm just likethis person is not not be truthful. It exactly. And I want totalk a little bit as well because you have such great insight into kind ofwellness and personal growth and wanted to touch on a few of the topics thatyou're you're well versed in, and one of them that is intriguing to meas the power of habits. So can you talk a little bit about athe power of habits and be how you can go about building habits that willbe helpful in your life? Yeah, yeah, well, I I've heardit said that first we make our habits and then our habits make us.And it's the little things we do every... that very few people might actuallysee, that actually set us up to create the bigger results of our livesthat the sometimes other people want. They're like, oh, how can Ihave what you've got? And you know, it starts with the little things likehow we start our day, the little the small things, taking sometime to set our priorities for the day, taking some time out to reconnect withwhat gives us a sense of purpose, exercising, keeping our bodies healthy andfit and strong and g right now, with everything going on, I meanI'm just doubling down on those things. You know, how do I makesure that my immune system and and and my whole state is feeling asstrong as it can? So the little things that we do can make sucha big impact. And so to anyone who's not feeling powerful and positive andpurposeful in your life, take a look at what are thiss what are someof the small things you could do that, when you do them, you feelbetter about yourself and invest more time in those things. I think that'sthat's such a good mindset to have. And and another I sort of notethat I think you can very nicely is the act of practicing gratitude as well, because when good things do happen a lot of the times it's because ofsomeone else helping out as well. It's not always just a, you know, one person doing everything. It's because of the connections that we have inour lives, and I think sharing that gratitude with other people can be veryrewarding as well. Absolutely, and I think that our relationships, I mean, we're at our best when we're in relationship with other people. Right youknow, success in life thriving in life isn't something we can just do onour own in a vacuum, and so making sure people around us feel appreciatedand being really intentional in the people that we invest time with. I thinksometimes we can, by default, almost out of habit, just hang outwith people who aren't bringing out our best. Maybe they're really negative, they're alwayscomplaining, they're really cynical, they constantly waiting for the sky to fallin. You know, those people may have served us at some point inour lives. But just be careful about spending too much time with people who'swith the conversations you're having aren't leaving you walking away feeling better about yourself andbravery and how you're dealing with your life. And I think that's something that's maybenot always obvious right away. It's just an overtime, because I I'vecertainly had relationships like that where I'm just like, I'm so drained after interactingwith this person, and after that happens a few times, I'm like,you know what, now there's there's better people out there to spend time with. So totally agree and as promised, for the top three, which Ilike to do, towards the end of every episode. I would love tohear about some of the travels that you have because, as a frequent travelermyself, I always love learning about new places and I know a lot ofmy audience is super into traveling and seeing new parts of the world. So, if you had to pick of all the places that you've either lived orbeen to, a top three and if you can get a one muscy attractioneach one, what would there be? Well, actually loved Nepal. Sowhat's a musty attraction there? Just just being in the Himalayas and just thatis something that I found just really majestic and soul stirring and in the peoplea beautiful and the culture is rich and of course there's enormous poverty there,but that's a culture that's so rich and incredible to experience. I in termsof places I've been to that are extraordinary, to be honest, the Grand Canyonin your own backyard is one of, I believe is one of the mostextraordinary places, geographic like the physically... be in the world. andto anyone who lives in the United States if you haven't been to the GrandCanyon, I would get yourself there, and I know there's various this BryceCanyon, there's other canyons, but that's the one I've been to and Ihave I found it just an incredible experience actually hike to the bottom with somefriends and we slept on the floor over night and hike back up the nextday and then I was I was so sorry I couldn't walk for days,but that was pretty amazing. You know, look, there's a lot. I'vebeen to a lot of places. Is is you probably would have readin my bio. Craft Cross the Sahara desert and I've hiked the INCA trailand I've lived in POPPA, New Guinea, and Hike Kilimanjaro. I. There'sso many places that I've been to, the Amazon, Galapagus, I.It's hard to narrow it down. To be honest. I think ourworld is so filled with beauty and so whether it's nature's beauty but also cultures. A little town called Ottavallo in Ecuador that I went to where they havethis extraordinary market and all the indigenous people come come down to this market ona Friday, and I think so it's just extraordinary place to go to andSoak in just just cultures that can be so very different from our own,and I actually think there is so much it's such an enriching thing for usto experience cultures that are different from the culture that we come from ourselves.I agree. I really like that you said that. I was interviewing afriend of mine that similarly was kind of traveling all around the world and gettingher tips on travel, and she said that anytime she goes into a newcity, her favorite places are the subway and the grocery store because she getsto see how the culture and how people just interactress in their daily lives andshe says that's like the best way to get a sense of just what atown is like and seeing, you know, seeing what's the most popular thing inthe grocery store. It might be a knockoff of frosted cheerios or something, or it might be something completely new, and she just finds it fascinating justto kind of people watch and embrace the culture by hopping right into it. Yeah, you know, I think it's obviously it's very easy to kindof get pulled into our sort of almost default, you know, our ownlittle comfortable world. I know that I do too, but I think that'swhere it's so good to just sometimes get out of out, get out ofthat little cocoon that we're living in and get out there and just just putyourself in different places and I helped reframe sometimes your own problems and see thingsfor a whole new lens. Absolutely, and I do have to ask forthe Grand Canon, what part was more difficult than climbing down or climbing up? To be honest with you, I found definitely more difficult climbing up andI know that some people who've got bung knees, they then going down ishard. But I was how I was twenty one, so you know,my knees would just fine, but getting up the next day all my goodness. You know my my cardio fitness, it was put to the test.And I also imagine sleeping on the ground probably doesn't help that much either,but well worth it. I think back then I didn't hurt me as muchas it would now. I know I always think of like extreme hiking tripsthat I've done in the past and think about it now or think about otherpeople. You mentioned the INCA trail. There were folks on that that werein there. I think the oldest was in his late s and I especiallyat heights like that, it's a good idea to get acclimated a day ortwo before, and I know at least one older gentleman on our group washad arrived like six hours before we started making the track up the mountain andimmediately got altitude sickness. And just at the time, I mean I wasprobably half his age and I was just like Ah, like, that's rough, and now thinking about it, I was like that that's really bad,like that would be terrible. Yeah,...

...yeah, but you know, Ilove seeing people who are older in years getting on and doing stuff like that. It's fantastic and I'd like to think I'm still hiking and when I'm inmy s. You know, I love hiking in nature and I think ageso much of it. We can make ourselves old long before at time byby living old and the more active you are and the more adventurous you areand the more curious you are. I really believe it adds so much lifeto the living in those decades of life that a lot of people kind ofclose down and just sit around waiting to die. I'm like. Don't doit. Get out there, be active, take ownership of your whole experience oflife, including your last few decades. Yes, he was. He wasmiserable the first couple of days, but after that he was he wasprobably a more energy than any of us. So totally agree. Well, margie, thank you so much. This is just flown by. If people, for want to connect with you online or find your book and read it, which they I highly recommend people do, where can they find you? Iwould encourage people to head over to my website, which is my Maggiecom, I say, with a hard day, and they can obviously pick up mybook. You've got this on Amazon and wherever good books is sold,but I would just encourage people pop over to my website and and have ahave a look around. I've got lots of videos, I've my own liftbrave podcast, I've you've got. This is my fifth book, and soall the information they might want, and include an ability to sign up formy lift bravely newsletter, is all on Maggie WorldCom. Well, margie,thank you so much for taking the time to chat. This was great.Yeah, absolute pleasure. I'm so glad we got to talk Joey, yes, and of course I always have to end with a Corny joke, andso let's do let's do a topical one. Where does a cow stay when it'son vocation? A mutel good after it today, people. That's good, all right. Well, I take it, Joey. Thanks for get. appreciated.

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